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Early morning tech news: IDC research shows HP as the worldwide leader in sales of home desktop PCs for the first time; Microsoft will centralize its messaging services in Windows XP into "Windows Messenger," which will offer instant messaging, audio and video conferencing, application sharing and file transfer; and Amazon will continue to expand its services by selling PCs online as well as market books to institutional buyers, including businesses and government agencies, later this year.


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    FIRST POST HI

    ALOHA

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    Amazon selling Macs too?

    I hope Amazon ends up selling Mac products too. After licensing the 1-click patent, Apple should be on pretty good terms with the company.

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    HP, chortle!

    A friend just bought an HP for ~$1600. Compared to my home built PC on several benchmarks, his was only half the speed. In graphics, it was only 1/15 due to the awful board graphics.

    No PC assembler can make a reasonably performing computer compared to a home built one. This most definitely includes Macs... unfortunate that pre-assembled is the only choice for them.

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    weird

    only weirdos want to make their own PC

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    RE: weird

    Weirdos? maybe...
    How about PC technicians...the guys that get paid upwards of $120 per hour to come to stupid people's homes to fix their POS HPs and Dells? Should such people have to deal with the same c*** as the stupid people?

    I don't think so. I for one will never buy a pre-built PC again...hmm...scratch that, never did in the first place. I will never buy a pre-built PC. For the same amount of money as a mid to high end PC you can build yourself, in only a few hours time, a high or extremely high end machine. A year ago I spent $1400 to build myself a machine which, based on specs, would sell from HP for $2500 or more. Not only that, but since I bought piece by piece and each piece comes with its own warranty, I don't have to send my whole computer in for service - if the HD fails, I send it back to Maxtor or WD or whoever the manufacturer of that particular HD is, if the monitor fails I take it to the monitor manufacturer or an authorized service provider. Actually, to be honest, I bought my monitor with employee (my brother) discount from Best Buy and if anything goes wrong within the next 3 years I can take it to them, and being a monitor (hard to repair) will get a brand new one at no cost to me within an hour. Hows that for kick a**?

    Anyway, not everyone can get that level of service, but still the fact remains that building your own PC is MUCH more cost effective on the high end. I won't argue that the POS $800 PCs are a great value for the money, but noone in their right mind should be putting so little an investment into something that for many is an integral part of their lives (storing important documents, emails with family and friends, etc...).

    Oh, and let me not forget that even if I didn't have a huge financial advantage by building my machines myself, I would still have done it for the pure enjoyment of building it. How many people in this world can truly say this: "I love my job so much I even do it if I'm not getting paid. (family, friends, etc..)"

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    long

    that was long...oh well, thats just how I am.

    - Jeff

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    Re: Weird

    I have to agree with this guy above. In 1999, I homebuilt a PC with dual 500 celeron, 192MB RAM, 2x burner, DVD, altec lansing sub + 4 speaker, aureal sound, voodoo 3 3000, and 48MB HD for $1400.00.
    This is still my main home PC, recently augmented by a TiPBG4-500 for school use.
    Building your own PC saves beaucoup $$$, and allows you complete control over what goes into it.
    Too bad Apple wouldn't let you buy just a plain box with mobo and processor only, so you could fill it with what you want.

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    Hmmmm...

    I've just had a recent spate of calls from people asking me to fix their computers, and I don't think it's that pre-built PCs are bad, it's that the people who buy them are completely clueless. They expect it to run perfectly forever without having to do anything. (Especially backups.) Most of the problems I've seen have been from people loading thier hard drives to 98% capacity, not ever running any system utilities or defragging. Then they scratch their heads and wonder why they lost all their data when their file structure finally gives out. But idiocy like that keeps IT peeps employed.

    As for building your own PC, I'd mych rather buy one, plug it in, and have it work the first time. No jumpers to configure, no ROM BIOS to fiddle with, and better HW/SW integration. I guess that's one reason I use a Mac. (One more thing: If your HD conks out and you have to send it back for repair, what are you going to run your computer with?)

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    Pre-built PC definition

    When I said no one builds a decent pre-built PC, notice I said that includes Macs. If you've never bought a pre-built PC, you've never bought a Mac, either.

    I agree that only weirdos want to... it requires information & intelligence, both of which are a rarity, which could be called "weird." I'm surprised you'd distinguished yourself as lacking those, it usually creates deep insecurities.

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    I have two computers

    1 G4/400 I use all the time and 1 Tbird 1.2ghz (soon to be 1.5 with watercooling). I use the Mac to do most of my productive work and my PC is my hobby. They both serve their purposes well.

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