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Napster buys in to MusicNet service

updated 02:50 pm EDT, Tue June 5, 2001

Napster is near to closing a deal that would allow it to sell songs offered by MusicNet, the company created by RealNetworks and three major record labels—AOL Time Warner's Warner Music Group, EMI Recorded Music, and Bertlesmann's BMG Entertainment, according to c|net. Under the arrangement, Napster users would have to subscribe to the company's basic service, which allows the swapping of songs by independent labels and self-produced tracks, and pay an additional fee in order to download a limited number of MusicNet songs from the major labels, which would be tied to the computer and unable to be burned to CD or transferred to portable devices.

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ha ha

the end of theft (ok the end of the average person stealing mp3 encoded songs)

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who his going to?

Who is going to subscribe to that? I never used Napster in thefirst place but no one is going to subscribe to that.

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right you are

right,
no one is going to pay monthly for mp3 (probably going to be encoded under 128K) .... not to mention mp3 quality is not even close to CD quality. Why not just buy CD's?
This is definitely the end of Napster.

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DOA

This whole scheme is dead on arrival. It was dead when they conceived it. Firstly no one is gonna pay for 'low' quality mp3. secondly, no one is gonna pay for stuff that violates their fair use rights.

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wow, can't burn/RIO?

That truly blows. If I can only listen to it on my computer, there's no way I'm paying for it. 'Specially for 128k encoded MP3s.

I wonder how they're going to prevent it from being burned or transferred to a Rio-type device. I'm confident that someone will circumvent the limitation (re-encoding the audio stream?) but it still sucks.

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What's the point

I guess you will need special software to play the songs. I'm sure there won't be a Mac or Linux version (which is fine anyways). And what is the point of haveing electonic copies of songs (or anything of that nature) that you can't put on any device? If I can't put it on my MP3 player then why in the h*** would I buy it. s**** the RIAA.

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gnutella...

looks like it's Gnutella time - it has a higher failure rate on downloads, but it does apps, images, and video, and audio, and since it's open-sourced, it can't be stopped with a lawsuit. A good client is available at www.limewire.com.

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What a joke

Can't transfer files to a burned CD or portable mp3 player? Good lord. Who is going to go for that? That's simply ridiculous. As usual, the record companies are looking for ways to squeeze every single penny they can out of consumers, and the ultimate revolt will be watching the RIAA's plans fall the pieces.

What I can't believe is that Microsoft is actually playing into their hand by trying to "kill" mp3s in Windows XP. No wait...I can believe it.

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Pay for nothing ???

I'm ok to pay a monthly fee for downloading mp3 but if i can't use them on my CD burner or Mp3 player i won't buy Napster...To pay = to be able to back up the files and listen to them on my stereo.

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song from 50 yrs ago

which major lameass labels own them? and i still have to pay a fee?! i hate those b*******

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06/05, 04:24pm | report spam | close Reply | delete
down with big labels

the major labels are going to die a horrible death. you cant stop every file trading service. people will always do it. there needs to be another real method of distribution. they should have settled with napster when it was gonna be $5 a month unlimited downloads.

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Two words...

Audio Galaxy.

http://www.audiogalaxy.com

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audiogalaxy is great !

But it's not mac compatible yet :-((

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Please don't support thi

This is a bunch of c***. I hope no one supports this. I hope they (RIAA) lose more money than they leached off of many talented musicians. Drop the prices of CD's as a marketing test you dopes! 6-8 dollars sounds nice! You will see a rise in CD sales and probably less digital exchanges. I haven't bought a Audio CD in a over a year because of the money hungry RIAA. There's rarely anything good coming out now anyway. My 2 cents.

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What a deal...

::begin sarcasm::

I get to pay for MP3s that will probably be encoded at lousy quality, then if I like the song I just paid for, I get the privilege of paying to go buy the CD that it's on too? Ohhh boy, where do I sign up? Please, RIAA, take my money and horde it while keeping the artists in slave-labor contracts!

::end sarcasm::

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POSTS

you know guys ..... you are all right.
We should really write the RIAA and Napster about this stuff.
---- or just let them find out the hard way once they implement their system. ;)
they want our money, and I'm sure as h*** not giving them mine.
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ask the artists!

They should ask the artists, not the labels, Rage Against The Machine, Chumbawumba, The Offspring and The Foo Fighters are just some artists that are all for Napster. I bet their labels arn't!

sure, lots of artists arn't but for it's original purpose (checking out albums before you buy them) napster is great and it's saved me from buying a lot of c*** albums when buying a few singles off the album makes more sense.

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Napster killed for cheap!

Of course this won't work. The companies behind this deal believe that two things will happen:

1) Folks too dumb to care will pay for downloaded music in limited playback form; and

2) Everyone else will be stuck buying CDs or dealing with second-hand downloaders that don't have the coverage and depth of Napster.

End result? Napster is dead in a few years, and the RIAA still rules the music world and sets the terms of how music is distributed (and where most of the money goes).

If Napster survives, it will evolve (take away the playback restrictions, perhaps?) and become another powerful tool of the RIAA.

Why should anyone be surprised about this? Does anyone think the RIAA really cares about the interests of the music listener?

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I SHAMELESSLY STOLE!

and Napster was fun too! ever so dead now, but Gnutella is not!! and the party goes on and on and on, just like the Eveready Bunny...

Napster? The King is Dead, Long Live the King!!

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bite me

No way, no how. What a concept - music I pay for, but can't put on my Rio? Over the years, I have bought vinyl albums and recorded them to cassette to play in my car, now, later cd's recorded to tape to play in the car, now the record labels have hijacked the digital music evolution, motivated entirely by greed. RIAA, you suck!

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Wrong implementation..

How typical of the RIAA. Napster shows them a business model that people are willing to pay for, so do they follow it and reap the hundreds of millions?

Oh no. No instead they allow access to a "limited number" of songs, and those songs can't even be burned or moved!

The RIAA is simply a rebellious child. They obviously didn't learn their lesson with Napster, so now it's up to us to try to teach them AGAIN.

Please, PLEASE, I urge all of you to keep using Gnutella and every other avenue available until the RIAA gets the message: consumers are tired of paying for what we don't want; the RIAA has been charging us $15 for two or three good tracks for 15 years.

Now is the time for their comeuppence. Keep stealing their product by the millions until they either get the message and give consumers what they want, or go out of business.

Personally, either result suits me just fine.

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Yeah.... I don't think s

I'm certainly willing to pay a nominal fee for each song I download, but I won't give Napster a dime if I cannot burn the track to a disc or transfer it to my MP3 player. What a bunch of idiots.

Looks like I'll be downloading the Mac version of Aimster when it finally arrives.

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Backwards

Let me get this straight - under this new rule, will the songs on my computer (at least the ones that meet the new criteria) be available for someone else to download? If so, isn't Napster charging someone else for the right to access MY HARD DRIVE SPACE? After all, wasn't their major defense the fact that they own nothing?

Here's my deal: I'll allow Napster the use of part of my drive for a nominal monthly fee. I own, they want to use it, THEY SHOULD PAY.

If my songs won't be available, then doesn't Napster turn into a copy of every other music service out there? At it's root, the success of Napster was based on three things: cost, selection and ease of use. The new Napster eliminates two of these, enough to make most people sacrifice a little bit of the third and move on to Gnutella/Hotline/etc.

IMHO, the free transfer of information will stay ahead of the attempts to limit it. All that the copyright holders can hope to do (and have every right to do) is ensure that no other corporation will profit from it.

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napster

Why is everyone caving on this? We have a completely legal right to copy and distribute copies of tapes and cds that we purchase. What has been going on on Napster is not theft and yet the media keeps calling it theft and piracy. The courts stopped napster because it was facilitating a situation that it considered unfair to recording companies, not becasue what we were doing was theft.

When cable companies atarted downloading network programming from satellites and selling it, the courts did not immediately shut them down. They actually recognized their right to do this and took a good length of time to impose any license fees, wanting to make sure they didn't treat the cable industry unfairly.

We are getting shortchanged becaouse we hav no lobby in Wahington.

Kenoli Olearri

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ha ha ha

face it...napster is fighting for it's survival in an era of new programs that have already replaced it (gnutella is one). were in for a long battle, but this will ultimately prove fruitless just like the war on drugs.

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06/22, 02:16am | report spam | close Reply | delete
lose - lose situation.

downloads for a fee, not able to burn on to a regular cd, fees, fees, fees.
get real! you lose RIAA. And s**** everyone who tags along.

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Napster buys in to MusicNet service

updated 02:50 pm EDT, Tue June 5, 2001

ha ha

who his going to?

right you are

DOA

wow, can't burn/RIO?

What's the point

gnutella...

What a joke

Pay for nothing ???

song from 50 yrs ago

down with big labels

Two words...

audiogalaxy is great !

Please don't support thi

What a deal...

POSTS

ask the artists!

Napster killed for cheap!

I SHAMELESSLY STOLE!

bite me

Wrong implementation..

Yeah.... I don't think s

Backwards

napster

ha ha ha

lose - lose situation.

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ha ha

who his going to?

right you are

DOA

wow, can't burn/RIO?

What's the point

gnutella...

What a joke

Pay for nothing ???

song from 50 yrs ago

down with big labels

Two words...

audiogalaxy is great !

Please don't support thi

What a deal...

POSTS

ask the artists!

Napster killed for cheap!

I SHAMELESSLY STOLE!

bite me

Wrong implementation..

Yeah.... I don't think s

Backwards

napster

ha ha ha

lose - lose situation.

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