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Mac OS X pre-installed beginning today

updated 02:50 pm EDT, Mon May 21, 2001

Apple has announced that it will begin shipping all of its Macs with Mac OS X pre-installed beginning today—two months ahead of schedule. The move comes in response to the positive reception to the new operating system and a desire to give developers a larger base of customers for Mac OS X products. New Macs will come pre-installed with both Mac OS 9.1 and Mac OS X, with OS 9.1 selected as the default boot operating system.

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OSX

Cool.

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awesome!

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OS X on all new Macs

Can't help thinking this is a mistake at this stage. I love OS X, but isn't the default RAM on a standard iMac 128 MB?

Just enough for the OS - This will put of Joe User - when they try to use it - it will crawl - give a very bad impression.

Maybe Apple are releasing 10.0.4 on these machines? But still not enough RAM - is the default for the bottom-end iBook 64?

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is there an update...

as well or do they ship them with 10.0.3?!

Does anyone know?

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iBook

A week after I bought my new iBook! Dam!

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That's great for Apple..

Great news for apple, not so great for consumers who may have a bit of trouble understanding two OS's (and their poor relatives, who have to offer tech support!).

All in all, though, it's super to see Apple delivering products ahead of schedule!

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that's it?

Apple made five announcements more than an hour ago...

what's up guys?

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New MacNN SUX

This layout is absolutely awful

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AAck!!!

This isn't april 1st, is it? X has lots of potential, but I hardly think it is ready for Joe Six-pack. This is a bad move, IMHO! Couldn't they have waited another few months to fix the bugs?

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noooooo

nooo they shouldnt do that...os x is slow..but its probaly good for ppl who was planning on buying a slow OS...anyways this new transition is bad like the new design of macnn.com

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Big Deal

Whatever. All they're doing is just installing something they already have on new machines, nothing new. They make it sound as if its a big deal. What would have been a big deal was if they released 10.1, and it actually had decent system responsiveness and consumer useability. Apple had said previously currently OS X is more for the early adopter types. Did Steve Jobs wake up this morning and decide that everyone had become pioneers? Circle the wagons, yeehaw!

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Too early

I thought they would prepare an update till summer that would get the speed up and wait for Internet Explorer to work right. On the other hand the average user won't notice they have a second OS on the HD.

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All Macs or just Powermac

Are all macs getting OS X or just the towers? The cube still says that it ships with OS 9 and the powerbook just says Mac OS.

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Too late.

MacNN sucks now. This was on MacAddict a few hours ago.

I hate you MacNN. I'll miss you.

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Machines are shipping wit

The Apple store still has machines shipping with 64 MB of RAM!!!! The low end iMac, iBook, and Cube. Take a look for yourselves. I hope this is changed soon. It would be an extremely bad idea to ship an OS on amachine that can't run it.

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Forums

I hope the forums aren't down because of that stupid thread... that wouldn't be cool NewsFactor Response guy.

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Where is the DVD playback

They will pre-load the OS 10.0.3 version, not 10.0.4 without DVD playback!!!

http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

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pre-installed...

starting today, MacNN website comes with a self-destruct feature installed at great cost to its integrity...

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Previous orders with X?

I ordered a Combo iBook on 5/2, and it hasn't shipped yet. Will it come with OSX? If it does, i'll be mad cause I already bought X.

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Underpowered

OK, 2 iBooks, 1 iMac, 1 cube all come with 64 Megs of RAM. That's half the amount required by OS X and about 1/4 what you really need for it. How does this make sense? And yes, the front page of MacNN is really hard to read now.

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G4 450 DP

OSX has been great since 10.0.3. Beautiful to look at, fun to use and to learn about!!

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Post to Apple feedback

http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback if you want to make sure this installation is as smooth as possible.

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Skeptical

Hmmm...It's no secret that most of us here know OS X is not ready for primetime. Apple could be fumbling on this one. Unless of course they have a bold new update that will address the biggest gripes (DVD playback, 3rd party Airport cards, speed/responsiveness, etc.) on standby.
Otherwise this'll be one major headache for tech support personnel.

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Default OS...

...is still 9.1. The user can switch to 10.0.3 if they want. The newbies won't - or at least the docs will say you need 128 MB RAM.

Good news because it puts 10.0.3 out there on every machine, and the entry level won't know the difference until they're ready.

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All your jackasses...

Are belong to MacNN forums.

Read the information provided jokers. OS X is pre-installed but OS 9.1 is still the default operating system.

They are preinstalling, likely, to get a larger installed consumer base which should, in thoery, push application developement.

It comes installed but John Q. Public doesn't have to use it...

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Installed Base

This is the way Microsoft gets a huge installed base--they make sure every new version of Windows ships on new computers! Apple is very smart to do this too!

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shipping....

I've got a question some of you might be able to answer. I ordered an iBook 10 days ago. The delivery time indicates 3-5 weeks, and I've not yet recieved my iBook yet. By the time it reaches my door, would you know if it will come with OSX or OS9.1? Thanks.

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More sales for Apple

Bottom line is that it has been well publicized that Apple plans to pre-install all computers with OSX in July. That creates indecision by many purchasers of new computers given that if they wait, they can save $129. Many users will wait 'til July. With the announcement of the MacOSX preload, this removes a hurdle and most will probably now buy Apple computers given that they get OSX with it. Watch out, Apple is going to steamroll the PC market! Time to buy AAPL!!!

-ben

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OSX Speed Up?

Maybe nothing by July, so what the heck!

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New MacNN Format

I used to love MacNN. I do like the header that goes straight to certain forums.

BUT (!!!) the new layout means you have to scroll to see the headlines and briefs, and I, like others, think this is a big step backwards.

Please, an update to a format that is good for users.

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ALL YOUR INSTALL BASE...

...ARE BELONG TO OS X!!

seriously though, this is a good thing itll push both apple and the developers into finishing the damn thing.

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partitioning?

are they going to partition the drives to create an OS X partition?
... I have certainly found it useful to have all my X stuff on a different partition... had to erase the partition once and reinstall when 10.03 completely f*&ked me up.

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Putting it to developers?

10.1 isn't ready. 9.2 is being finalized. No Drive 10 from MicroMat yet. OmniWeb 4.01 has some problems and they were planning on a 4.1 July release with more complete java. same for MSIE. Those folks got caught by surprise too I suspect!

Why now? so that the education market orders that come in at end of school year have OS X to look forward to. Not the time to be conservative - more PR marketing points. XP will be geared up with marketing blitz later this year...

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Funny...

This thread is supposed to be about OSX being 'pre-installed' on all new Macs, yet people use the opportunity to just b**** about the new format (which I like incidentally).
Supposedly, those Macs that are 'in the channel' will qualify for a free copy of OSX also, but I'm not sure how they're going to do it... probably have to report your machine ID# to Apple or something...
The thing that sucks is I just got a notification e-mail from the Apple store that my order for OSX I placed had shipped on Saturday... oh well, maybe I can finagle something, or return it... since I got a new iBook that's still waiting to ship.

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A question

Any lnguage kits available for additional installstions?

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Whaaa, Stop the whining!

Performance issues with X? Buy more RAM and STFU! The bottom line is, it must be out there to entice developers to kick it into high gear and get those X apps rolling. Apple is betting there future on Mac OS X, and they have been listening. Updates have rolled in good order and actually been effective. Most X issues are third-party related. Bundling makes sense, cause it gives them more incentive to push it out.

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The new layout!

MacNN's new layout is not elegant, specially adding the advertising strip in the middle of the page is really annoying.
At a time that the Macintosh world embracing simplicity, style and elegance, MacNN is taking the opposite direction.

I am a regular visitor to MacNN and will continue to do so but with haste.

Now about OSX shipping on all Macs, think of it a thank you present from Apple for buying a Mac.

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grammar

I was just curious if there is some requirement for this grammar idiosyncracy on internet forums... Perhaps this is the new Ebonics?

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ALL YOUR INSTALL BASE... 5/21/01, 5:08 pm EDT
...ARE BELONG TO OS X!!

seriously though,

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Re: Grammar

The phrase, "All Your Base Are Belong To Us", is a line from a Japanese console game that was poorly translated into English. It's funny because it makes no sense. There are a million other examples just like it but this one caught on for some reason.

To the rest of you.. STOP YOUR WHINING!!! I'm sick of reading "MacNN sucks" "Boycott MacNN" "My d*** is too small so I gotta complain about MacNN"

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Thx Apple

I'm getting a Ti book in 2 weeks, and I already got my copy of OSX for it. (it was on my G3, but I took it off cuz it was too slow).
Now I have some useless cd and no machine to put it on.

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RE: Thx Apple

Stop your bitching. ANY software that you purchase, open, use, but don't like is likely to be non-returnable.

This has NOTHING to do with Apple. A friend of mine bought a copy of SoftWindows 3.1 a LONG time ago for his Performa 6400, it was like $300 at the time but was slow as h***. He tried returning it the DAY AFTER he bought it, but MicroCenter wouldn't accept it because the packaging was open.

You bought a piece of software for your computer. So you didn't like how it ran - LIVE WITH IT. So you are planning on buying a new computer, it already comes with software (DUH!) so be happy because you don't have to install it yourself. Now that you know your new computer will come with OS X pre-installed you can sell your CD (contact Apple for a transfer license if you want to make it legal) on eBay or something.

Whether or not your new computer comes with OS X pre-installed, you would have been stuck with your $130 (or whatever) purchase because you KNOW you cannot return opened software REGARDLESS of where you purchased it. At least with Apple pre-installing OS X you have a LEGAL opportunity to recoup some of that $130 that you lost and STILL have OS X legally on your new computer. If Apple had not pre-installed OS X you would have been out the $130...unless you installed it on your new computer and THEN sold it (illegal) or sold it and stayed with OS 9.1 (then you wouldn't have the benefits of OS X).

So don't you see how stupid your comment is?

THANK YOU APPLE for putting up with idiots like this and still giving to the community by including your next generation OS *and* your last (current shall we say?) generation OS with all new computers free of charge. I don't see Microsoft including Windows 98 with Windows 2000 or ME for "backward compatibility" because we all know neither 2000 or ME can run many (2000 moreso than ME, but ME still counts) things properly (like my Creative PC-DVD 12x Encore that won't work in Win2000 for the foreseeable future)

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Real reason

Jobs is having OS X preinstalled in new Macs two months ahead of schedule because not enough important apps (like Photoshop and MS Office) are being released fast enough for OS X, and he wants to jump start that.

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