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Preliminary requirements for Mac Alice

updated 11:30 am EDT, Fri April 20, 2001

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Aspyr Media has announced preliminary system requirements for the Mac version of American McGee's Alice, a third-person 3D action-adventure game originally developed by Rogue Entertainment and Electronic Arts. The game currently requires a 400 MHz PowerPC G3 or better (500 MHz G3 recommended), 64 MB RAM (128 MB recommended), and Mac OS 8.6 or higher. The game will ship as a Carbonized application for native support under Mac OS X.

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Oh crud

500 Mhz? Now only those with $1500 or more in a Mac can access this game. Aspyr used to realize how to make good software acceleration like in John Madden 2000. That worked great on my Powerbook G3/233. OK, so my next machine will definitely be a Powerbook G4/500 or whatever the latest is February 2002 when my Applecare runs out.

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Ah yes! Carbonized

Finally, we are getting some games that work under OS X. It will be mine :)

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how about

how about, we're finally getinng a program tahts not a freeware, shareware or another utilty! Common Adobe and Macromedia hurry up!

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time goes on

everyone needs to realize that the computer market is very fast paced. the g3/233 is an OLD machine. madden 2000 came out what, 2 years ago? of course its system requirements are gonna be lower than a game of today! if you are serious about gaming get a Power Mac G4, its just that simple.

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Whatever

I have an iBook SE 466 with 320 ram. I don't think running this game is going to be a problem at all. And anyone who is using a two year old mac to play games is out of their mind if they think that any of the new stuff is going to run with any balls on their systems.

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Reality Check

Well, I knew it was inevitable; my 2 year old B&W G3 350mhz can no longer run the latest games. Sigh...
Could be worse though since I rarely play anything more processor taxing than solitare!

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Too High

Yep, that's too high a CPU standard. They'll soon complain about not selling enough copies since a large majority of Mac users won't have machines fast enough.

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hmm

but even new games on my PC play slow and crappy on a Pentium III/533...

Don't forget, that also said *G3* and not *G4*...

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Alice

Alice is a graphics intensive game... get over it. Anyone that has played in on the PC knows this

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How 'bout G4?

So, it says 400MHz G3, but what about the G4? They're not much faster except fot operations that take advantage of Velocity. I have a 400MHz G4 with radeon and I don't really fancy running a game with the minimum requirements. Anyone with any thoughts?

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I think I can, I think�

I have a beige G3 233 Mhz machine with a Radeon PCI card, 640 MB RAM, OS 9.1 and I'm able to play Heavy Metal just fine (beautiful in fact). I have everything covered except the Mhz. Heavy Metal and Alice both are modified Quake III engines. Here's the specs for Heavy Metal: 233 MHz G3, 64 MB RAM (128 MB recommended), OpenGL-capable graphics accelerator with at least 6 MB of video memory, OS 8.5 or later. I understand the need to bump up the features of a game coming out, but 500 Mhz? I hope it will still run decent on my machine. I'll wait and see. At least its being ported to the Mac it looks so nice!

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ooops!

I meant to say 400 Mhz�

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400 MHz or better

... but we (the Mac community) have only recently been able to surpass that mark. We've been stuck at 500 Mhz since basically the introduction of the b/w G3. People buying brand new Macs as recently as December could still get a 400 Mhz G4.

I think these system requirements are huge in comparison to the market. However, I'll also have a suspicion that once we really start breaking beyond 500 Mhz (and the 733 G4's aren't a complete breakthrough, as far as I'm concerned) that the Mac community is going to get whiplash. And it's gonna hurt.

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Don't water down the gam

In order to get the game to work on many of your old machines the creators/porters would have to water down the game. Seriously guys, this is basically the equivalent of what it requires on the PC. It's probably the most graphics-intensive, beautifully-moody game any of you have ever played on the Mac including Deus Ex or Unreal. Get used to paying high buck for a great experience--an experience Mac users are only starting to get.

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wahh wahh wahh

What do you mean I won't be able to run this game on my SE-30! Well, the mac community won't stand by and take this!
Get real people! If there is one major factor driving the PC market currently it's the gaming market. I'm not talking about superbreakout, tetris, or solitare here. I'm talking about big, badass heavily textured, and rendered 3-D games. These games require big badass hardware.
There are games that many "gamers" on the PC side would not even consider playing on a sub-gigahertz rig with anything less than an overclocked GeForce 2. These guys laugh at frame rates less than 60fps @ 1280x1024. These are the games and the people that are pushing the envelope. And as a die-hard mac user, I welcome them with open arms (and wallets).

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G3/500 = $350

For those of you with Beige or B&W machines, you can get a G3/500 ZIF upgrade for $350. Check out dealmac.com

Let's not whine about system requirements -- face it, the good games demand them!

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It is nice to see...

that some of you people out there have the money to buy a new computer just because of a game. I wish my G3 400 was paid off much less "getting over it" and "simply buying a G4 if I am serious about gaming." If Macs were faster and cheaper (like the PC) this might be an option.

Recommending a better video card or more memory is one thing but a whole new computer? Asper Media need's their heads examined!

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Mac's don't have the sa

upgrade path that the PCs do. A new CPU a few jumpers and you got a faster PC. Check out the prices of a 1Ghz AMD chip and compare that to a 500Mhz G3. Then you will know why software makers can push the limits of PCs so hard. A New Mother board and an 850 Mhz less than 200 bucks.

Good Games require good writing and optimized code.

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Great Just Great!

Now this game wont be the success they "expected" and the games for the Mac will start drying up again. No Market for high end games. Talk about a Catch 22!

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mHz SemegaHz

ok what u guys dont realize is that megahertz is only a small portion of computer speed. Buses, cacheing are equally if not more important thanthe MHz bus. a 466 mhz g4 with a 133 mhz bus is going to be much faster than a 500 Mhz g4 with 100 mhz.. the computer can only run as fast as its smallest bus speed. apple has optimized all this stuff for u so u get teh best megahertz to bus ratio.. im sure they could throw in a ghz processer just for the publicity but it wouldnt make sense becuase the performance increase would be nominal and the cost would be huge. Dont forget that this is RISC, not CISC, that makes a big freakin difference. Apple knows what they are doing , they arent building slower mhz machines just to piss off the public. Dont simplify an extremely complicated system by sounding ignorant and blaming it on Mhz... ok im done

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Preliminary requirements for Mac Alice

updated 11:30 am EDT, Fri April 20, 2001

Oh crud

Ah yes! Carbonized

how about

time goes on

Whatever

Reality Check

Too High

hmm

Alice

How 'bout G4?

I think I can, I think�

ooops!

400 MHz or better

Don't water down the gam

wahh wahh wahh

G3/500 = $350

It is nice to see...

Mac's don't have the sa

Great Just Great!

mHz SemegaHz

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Oh crud

Ah yes! Carbonized

how about

time goes on

Whatever

Reality Check

Too High

hmm

Alice

How 'bout G4?

I think I can, I think�

ooops!

400 MHz or better

Don't water down the gam

wahh wahh wahh

G3/500 = $350

It is nice to see...

Mac's don't have the sa

Great Just Great!

mHz SemegaHz

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