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Dantz posts Retrospect Client beta for OS X

updated 03:15 am EDT, Fri April 13, 2001

 
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Dantz has posted a public beta of the Retrospect client for Mac OS X, which allows OS X computers to use Retrospect application (not yet available for OS X) to back up their files on local volumes. [form]


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    not needed anymore! :-)

    Nice thing about being UNIX based is that we don't need programs like Retrospect anymore for backing up our data. A simple shell script will do. Have a look at http:/www.xs4ll.nl/~voorburg//a for a simple and effective backup script that uses bash.

    Replacing #!/bin/bash by #!/bin/sh is probably all that it takes to make it run on a out-of-the box Mac OS X installl.

    Combine it with ssh and / or scp an you can even backup remote systems!

    Rene

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    now correct url...

    try http://www.xs4all.nl/~voorburg

    Rene

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    Unix heads.

    That's fine for you unix heads**Smiling** but I for one am delighted Retrospect is coming on board. I don't trust myself without it.

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    a life saver

    I agree with the unix scripts, and is what I have running at home to do daily incremental backups, and monthly full backups...but for people, also like me, that travel with their pride and joy to work, X support for retrospect is essential, since it is what the company deploys for backing up. And it's going to be a long long time before all the machines are assimilated into X machines, simply due to lack of s/ware support.

    So thanks Dantz

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    What about RESOUCE FORK?

    Can Unix scripts backup HFS+ resource forks?

    Didn't think about that, right?

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    Geez, not Dantz...

    ...one of the kings of "now we're doing Windows, so we'll update when we feel like it". I pray Dantz won't be my only choice for long.

    Actually, all I do now is copy my Documents folder (OS 9 flavor, which still has the bulk of my work) and my X account to an external HD for backup.

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    Resource forks

    If you are doing everything (both source and backup) on HFS+ volumes, then you're okay. But if you are mixing and matching HFS+ and UFS, then you're going to have problems.

    Maybe try replacing /usr/bin/cp with /Developer/Tools/CpMac in the scripts?

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    url

    here is the final url of the file:
    ftp://ftp.dantz.com/pub/osx_client_beta.sit

    It only requires a name, and email address.

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    Backup media for unix?

    When you use the Unix scripts, what backup media do you use?

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    Tivoli/ADSM

    At my job, we use the campus backup system: Tivoli Storage Manager (formerly known as ADSM Backup). When I last spoke to the university's backup gurus, they said that Tivoli (an IBM subsidy, I think) said they might not support OS X. I think they said it was due to lack of demand. Suffice it to say, there are backup people all over who beg to differ.
    I'm sure that they'll get the hint pretty soon. My big hope is that they decide to port from their UNIX clients rather than the Mac client; the UNIX stuff can be run faceless via cron, while a straight Carbonized version probably wouldn't.
    Anyway, the way we backup our one X machine (acting as an Apache webserver) is via an sh shell script. (I tried AppleScript, but support was VERY sketchy in Public Beta, and there was no reason to change a working system for Final.)
    We set up a cron task that fires about an hour before the ASIP Server gets backed up via ADSM. It finds all files modified after the last backup, and ftps them to the ASIP Server. It works pretty well, and it does some nice stuff that I wouldn't know how to do in AppleScript (lots of logging). It's a nice system, but I look forward to when ADSM/Tivoli is ported and we no longer have to roll-our-own backup.
    -Ster

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