Apple is "On Trial" at Upside.com on charges that it is "peddling a half-baked operating system," referring to Mac OS X. The article presents both points of view and lets readers vote on the decision.
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OS X doesn't work perfect, it has little problems -- of course it does. I think it is absurd to expect everything to work just fine -- I mean, wake up will you, it's been like this for the last five decades -- computer systems have issues!
New version does not mean "everything is not only the same, but better"!, it means a give and take, where the overall gain should be better. In OS X, I think it is irresponisble to cast such overall judgement so early; but from my 48 hour experience, I love it.
Sure, I share the points in the article. And I have some of my own, like no SSH, etc. But I'm not complaining, because I have the one thing that is most important to me: Stability, and scalability. And yeah, OS 9.1 apps run faster. I like that too. Sure it isn't perfect, but better? Absolutely.
Brian Basgen
After using OS X for two days, it has consistently exceeded my expectations. All the complaining about no DVD playback or CD burning (which Windows won't do either) and the big 4K78 debacle had me expecting very little. Just the opposite..
First, I got it in a rural area on a Saturday! It got better from there. It loading in 20 minutes, no problems. My classic apps worked. Some took longer to load, but I expect that that is related to how many extension an app has. The interface for OS X was very complete. I could do just about anything with. Speed was good on my iMac. Then the bonus round - Apache web server installed! Java 1.3 installed! I now have a complete development machine, that I didn't have to pay tribute to Redmond for, or spend days figuring out how to get the sound card, the video card, and the CD-ROM driver to work together. Mac users may have trouble accepting the new OS because it is different. PC users, Linux users, and Java developers will say - "this is how it should be. This is insanely great!"
Yep, I've got problems too... try resizing a window yet? holy cow, it's just as choppy as win95. How about letting the computer (Pismo 400) go to sleep in the classic enviroment only to find on wake-up, that you no longer have a mouse/trackpad pointer! And can you say "slow-pokey"...
Looks kinda cool though!
If you don't see no problem, it doesn't imply that there exists no problems. It takes time for problems to show up in the long run.
But if you see one or more problems as early as in 48 hours (12 hours for me... hoho), then there probably exists even more problems that you don't really see. It's just a matter of time for them to show up.
However, there are 3 different ways to solve these problems:
1) since currently there is no solution, people like Brain (an optimist?) ignore the problems and move on.
2) if there exists no solution, then there exisits no problem. (proof by disjunction syllogism). This is the escape-from-the-reality type...
3) ask Apple for the solutions if and only if they are gonna listen.
Anyway... OS X will kick some serious asses, but not now. Computer systems have issues... true true... but issues are only issues when they are something NEW. Those kept lingering around are called "problems". (go for "PC for Dummies" if you can't differetiate between problems & issues...)
The author suggests that since the Unix concept is 30 years old it ought to be thrown out. He can't clearly distinguish concept from implementation. He's likely to suggest binary representation of numbers, Turing machines, internal combustion engines and airplanes are all hopelessly obsolete.
But, face it folks, this whole article is a troll for ad revenues. Move along people, nothing to see here.
I started using X last Thursday(22) and I like the new OS better every day.
Okay, there's a little speed issue but thing can always go faster or are never fast enough.
I'm under the impression that the OS is running better and faster after a few days of use.
Sure, we have to go back to OS 9.x sometimes but that's not a problem.
You can't count how mush people are using multiboot Wintel/Linux systems, every OS has it's pro's and con's.
In a few month's Apple can fix the big bugs and after the apps arrive nothing is stopping me from using OSX full time.
For being as stable as OS X has been touted, imagine my surprise when my OS X install locked up cold. I was running AOL IM in classic mode, when the audio went crazy. And by crazy I mean distorted, choppy, muddled. Like when an audio tape got tangled in the player. Applications, OS X Native Applications, refused to load. They'd bounce once and stop. Not one opened. Not finder, not console, not terminal, not process viewer. Nothing. I then clicked a url inside an IM message window and voila. No cursor movement, no cursor spinning-wheel updates. Nothing. Not to mention booting takes multiple minutes with me wondering whether my install is corrupt. I have to leave it on its blank, devoid, no status-whatsoever, gray screen and hope the login window appears eventually. And gui manipulation is slow. Window resizing: terrible. Menu navigation? That same X-Windows type delay. I've got no slouch of a machine either. G4/500. ATI Radeon. 704 megs of RAM. My system just feels SLOW all the time. OS 9 is wonderously fast compared to it. IE (I know it's not OSX) does not appear to be multi-threaded. IE was also in the habit (default preferences from the install) of loading Classic's Stuffit-Expander. Strange. And annoying. I stop Classic from loading every time. A BSD-based system should not come to a screeching halt for any user-caused reason. And since Classic crashed it, I will not venture near it. I'll use OSX though. I like it. I just hope it SPEEDS UP. Please. I beg you. Otherwise just add pre-emptive multi-tasking and protected-memory to OS9 and give it to me.
does anybody have experience running OS X under Dual CPU system? Does it improve the GUI's "responsiveness"?
i wet myself when i put my powerbook to sleep by closing it....
then when i opened the moniter OS X was running before I had the screen in an upright position
that alone was worth my $70 bucks paid for it.
but itunes still doesn't start playing upon waking if it was when the computer was put to sleep...:) so I guess i got about $65 worth then ;)
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After 2 days with the new OS, the only thing exists in my mind is disappointment... I wanted OS X so badly and it turns out to be something like this:
1) Unexpctedly Slow. I have a 400MHz PowerMac G4 w/ 256MB SDRAM. The Aqua GUI looks great, but it's slow. All those actions like clicking a button are not done smoothly and it seems like that the system is always busy doing something in the background. OS9 has a much much faster GUI, OS X is like working in slow-mode.
2) Buggy: Perferences don't save occasionally, and the system doesn't adjust upon the change of perferences... look at the CLOCK! Simply as changing time-mode from 12H to 24H doesn't make no difference to the clock at the corner unless you manually remind it by changing one of the clock's options.
Of course, there are many many good things about OS X, but let's face it: OS X is obviously an unfinished product. My PowerBook G3 400 w/ 192MB RAM is like suffering running under OS X... I can't believe how slow its GUI is... enough said, i am switching back to OS9.1