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Final Cut Pro 2 not supported under OS X

updated 04:35 am EST, Wed March 21, 2001

 
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Galen Scorer notes that the recently released Final Cut Pro 2 does not support OS X natively: "...not even in Classic mode! What kind of signal does this send to the Mac community when apple does not even put the effort into making their own programs supported under the new OS." Apple's Website says that it is "working to bring a version of Final Cut Pro to Mac OS X that takes full advantage of the new operating system." [updated]


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    03/21, 10:26am | report spam | Reply | delete

    LOL n/t

    n/t

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    Check the web page...

    First, Apple could not have possibly released FCP2 when they did with OS X support. OS X still isn't even a shipping OS! FCP2 must have gone GM several weeks before OS X went GM, and maybe even before Carbon 1.25 was released. I think it was nice of Apple to tell us not to try to use it in Classic -- it's right on the web page for the product.

    Second, and more important, is this note on the FCP2 tech specs web page (http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs.html):

    "***We are working to bring a version of Final Cut Pro to Mac OS X that takes full advantage of the new operating system."

    So they're basically in the same boat as all of Apple's external developers - now that the OS is finalized, they can implement support for it without worrying about a moving target negating any work they've done.

    I would guess they'd love to roll out FCP2 for OS X at NAB in April...no inside info, just a total guess, as the timing makes sense for the target market (along with iDVD Pro for OS X, of course! ;-).

    -rob.
    robg@macosxhints.com

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    What kind of signal...

    What kind of signal does this send to the Mac community ?

    Simple : that a native Final Cut Pro is on the way and will soon be available !

    Duh !

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    and no DVD support!!

    omigosh! i just heard that there will be no support for DVDs either! and iTunes and iMovie! what will i DO with this new mac?

    wait... i'm having a strange feeling of deja vu. no, that's not it. oh yeah... we've already talked about this!

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    duh

    FCP doesn't only need access to a video source, it needs access to a firewire port. It's like DVD in that it's tightly integrated with more hardware items which need new drivers etc.

    I doubt a single FCP user is surprised. As for FUDmasters, well they can suck the big one as per usual.

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    FCP may be going Cocoa

    Maybe Apple is smart and is NOT going to Carbonize FCP, but rather take the longer (smarter) route and re-write FCP from the ground up with COCOA.

    Any real FCP user wouldn't run it under Classic or even the same partition as OSX. Because of the sesitivity of dropped frames and drivers not to mention other nonsensical (MS) extensions it would be to any editors advantage to keep it under it's own basic 9.1 partition---I do.

    I'm updating to OSX on Saturday---I can't wait. But I will keep my precious FCP on it's room until it's ready for OSX. There's no rush---it'll happen soon enough, I doubt by NAB but maybe for the Expo in July. NAB will showcase FCP2 and the Matrox RTMAC card in action---if anything Apple may offer a FCP Solution Package with dual 766 G4s.

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    Re: OS X Support

    FCP also didn't work with OS 9.1 when it first came out (or was it that it didn't work with 9.0.4 or 9.0.1 or 9.0 or something). FCP is a high-end program that talks directly (or very close to it) to the hardware and underlying OS drivers to the hardware. Any program talking directly to hardware won't work under OS X (or Unix or NT or anything) as the kernels don't allow this. You have to communicate through drivers. And you need drivers for every piece of hardware you support. This takes time and testing.

    This is why iTunes shipped with writing capability for just Apple drives, then they added support for more drives. Same with DiscBurner or iDVD or whatever all those CDRW programs they came out with are called.

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    Duh x2

    FCP in Cocoa? Yeah, Apple has 2 years to waste rewriting a massive app from "classic" Mac OS APIs for few if any benefits.

    FCP can run on OS X with dropping frames, morons. Thats what all that UNIX under the hood is for - so you DON'T have to worry about the app being "starved" for CPU time because you clicked on the desktop and your CD-ROM drive needs to think about spinning up for 30 seconds or so.

    OS X has no Microsoft extensions, heck it really won't have any extensions (beyond hardware support). Duh duh duh duh.

    Your FCP app also has its own private 4 gig. memory partition to work in. Overall I/O performance is WAY batter on OS X on the *same* hardware too.

    Speaking of hardware, OS X totally changes how you access hardware. Its not limited, its just fundamentally different. You can still use FireWire ports and whatnot. On OS X its all a lot faster and multitasking-friendly.

    Fortunately FCP relies on QuickTime for a lot of things and ta-da QuickTime 5 is on OS X right now. FCP should move to Carbon on OS X very nicely and run way better than before by virtue of the superior OS underneath it.

    There is so much confusion on Carbon and Cocoa apps on OS X it would be comical if I were not a software developer.

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    Re: FCP in Cocoa

    FCP in Cocoa? Yeah, Apple has 2 years to waste
    rewriting a massive app from "classic" Mac OS APIs for
    few if any benefits.

    This is a false statement. If the GUI code is separated from the internal engine (like it should be), porting the GUI would only take a matter of days. Nothing else would have to be touched. But I doubt that they would use carbon bc the Appkit still has to grow up in regard to quicktime.

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    What a dumb comment

    Final Cut is a PRO Application. It has to be 100% bug free and functional before I could even consider using it on OS-X. Apple clearly stated that it is in the works and I am happy that they are not forcing us to use a bug filled version just to make the media happy. FC2.0 is awsome and FC2.1 on X will be even better. Have some patience, the fricken OS is not even out yet.

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