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SANcube creator Micronet closes operations

updated 02:00 pm EST, Fri February 23, 2001

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RAID specialist Micronet, whose products included the FireWire SANcube, has ceased operations. Ampex, Micronet's parent company, announced the closure yesterday with little additional details. Micronet had failed to turn a profit since its inception. The SANcube Web site redirects to Netus, a networking company, with no details on the SANcube. [updated]

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... oh well ....

Buy a cobalt.

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Cobalt doesn't make RAIDs. I suggest you check your facts before posting.

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BAH-bye

We bought one of the Micronet Genesis1 RAIDs and had a terrible time dealing with Micronet. Drive failures, OS issues and upgrade problems never seemed to end. Our issues got so bad that at one point we were dealing with a top VP. After a time he stopped returning calls and support dried up too. Come to find out a month later the VP had up and left without word one. Micronet never managed to follow through on the first try when we had problems. They would have to be pestered and bugged and prodded. I know a bunch of people who used the DataDock products and loved them. Wish I could say the same for our Genesis, but I regret it all the time. Personally, I will not miss Micronet if they have truely died. I think they were slowly killing themselves from the inside for a long time.

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3ware makes RAIDs

3ware makes RAIDs for Macintosh. They use GigE as their interconnect instead of Fibrechannel. www.3ware.com

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cheap SANCubes?

Where would one find cheap SANcubes now that they have gone bankrupt?

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FD or Fantom Drives

FD make great raid level 1 and 5s. they do use intel hardware raid controllers but they are very good and hot swapable. every micronet product I have ever used had been s*** on a Mac or a PC.

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What gives?

You guys must be kidding me.
As soon as someone goes down it's time to trash them???
Just like Apple a few years ago, huh????
You were probably there as well; with hammer and nails
ready to box them.
Their Genesis and DataDock products are top notch.
Enough that most of the top creative and media companies around have embraced them.
You should only the know the whole story!

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Cobalt Raid Products

The Cobalt RaQ4 is available in a Raid model (RaQ4r).
The RaQ XTR has Raid support for upto four IDE drives.
Depending on your needs, this may be enough for you.

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snap

i have had very good results with snap server products, very easy to install and configure for mac networks. i'm surprised that i don't hear more about their line in mac circles.

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Do most of the folks posting here even know about the SanCube?

It was a pretty cool product, just way over priced. Yes, this product was a RAID, but the thing that made it cool was the fact that one could share it with several users over Firewire! True, Fibre channel and Gigabit eithernet solutions do provide more bandwidth and better configurability than this product did. But this was like the ideal solution for a group of folks who wanted to make their next DV feature film. They could all hook up their G3 or G4 towers, start up Finial Cut and Combustion and get to work. No networking, just shared storage. True, it wasn't actually as nice and easy as I described it. But it could've been...

~Mr. Jelly

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Snap and Cobalt solutions aren't really made to address the same market as the SANcube was. (At least not to my knowlege, I could be wrong...) There are other SAN (Storage Area Network) solutions but a lot of them use ethernet which has TCP/IP overhead. Plus, you'd possibly have to use Apple Share and stuff... Works? Deffinitly! But not as well as other, dcc oriented SAN solutions.

Oh, just to clarify. I don't think that the SANcube was the best thing ever. They just seem to be the only ones who did it. With the price of good IDE drives down so far now, someone could make the same thing with more space for less!! Perhaps down the line, someone could do it with faster firewire in mind.

Oh, and it would also be nice if they packaged it at least as nicely as the SANcube was. Even if it did suck, it looked nice.

~Mr. Jelly

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A Sad Day

Personally, I can't say enough good things about MicroNet. Their Genesis Raids are rock-solid and the best built on the market IMHO. I've never used a SanCube, but apparently those giving out awards, such as Best Of Show at MacWorld, wholeheartedly endorsed them. Their only downfall was having Ampex as an anchor around their neck.

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Genesis II

We just installed a Genesis II with a terabyte of storage LAST WEEK. [800-some gigs of usable]. This news made me croak to say the least. Here's why:

We bought $150,000 worth of 12-bay RAID arrays from Hammer Storage about a year ago. They offered service that was second-to-none. Just a few months after we installed them, it was announced that they were bought by Rorke Data and worse, all service contracts would NOT be honored. We took it up the wazoo royally on that deal. No legal recourse since the service offerings were never

So, when this new terabyte project came up, we went with Micronet. And this happened today. I feel like puking, crying and laughing all at the same time.

Ah, well, such is the nature of the business, right?

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Sad Day Indeed

Micronet was a top notch company. I always had terrific dealings with the people there and their support was always great.

From what I heard there is a chance that it may rise from an early grave as employess are attempting to save the company.

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Sad Day Indeed

Micronet was a top notch company. I always had terrific dealings with the people there and their support was always great.

From what I heard there is a chance that it may rise from an early grave as employess are attempting to save the company.

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DataDocks were superb

I'm surprised to read some people who had problems with Micronet. We have a couple dataDock systems that we used for video capture, and we never had a single problem with them. I like their products and will miss them.

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San Cube

I work do work at a place that has 3 SanCubes. They also have LVD and Ultra3 SCSI RAID's and Gigabit ethernet setup. So we have have been able to actually compare these solutions. A 3 drive, Ultra 3, Dual channel.10,000RPM RAID was the fastest writing. The SanCube Extreme (6 X80GB Drives with Dual channel firewire) was the fastest reading. Gigabit is respectable but not as fast reading or writing as the Ultra3 raid or the SAN cube. All machines (6 of them) are G4 Dual 500's with 1GB of RAM.
The San cubes have had some problems and quirks but were a good idea. I am not happy about micronet abruptly shutting down.

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San Cube for sale...

Anybody want to buy a 100gig sancube for half what I paid for it? Perfect working condition and rarely used.

creaturecore@mediaone.net

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Pricing

Their product had great potentional but way over priced. It seems like they gave up too easy. Maybe if they researched their market a little better and price accordingly they would of make it. Just a thought.

-eb

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Support?

So how can I get support on a san CUBE we got at the end of last year?

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Its amazing!

Its amazing how little people actually know. Bash MicroNet all you want, the simple fact is the SANcube had the best cost/GB for a shared serverless storage device. The performance blows away Cobalt and Snap! I used MicroNet products for 10 years, they have always had the highest quality products and excellent customer service. Sure there are always going to be some exceptions. As for Genesis, it was the best RAID product on the market from an engineering and quality perspective. There was no manufacturer in the Apple market that approached the class and quality of the people from MicroNet. This company was a victim of poor managment from their parent company Ampex. They drove this company deep into the ground. Its a shame to see them go. Its an even bigger shame when a manufacturer who has been so dedicated to Apple users goes away. And as a final testiment to MicroNet, you should all realize that they were the only RAID company that Apple endorsed.

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Former employee

If you all only knew the truth!

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What a shame....

I have never had any real dramas with MicroNet stuff. I sold a number of DataDock Duos many years ago, all of which are still going strong. We have a DD7000 RAID in this office and I know lots of ppl that love them like I do.

Maybe the employees might be able to salvage something and make a comeback.

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SANcube creator Micronet closes operations

updated 02:00 pm EST, Fri February 23, 2001

... oh well ....

Re: ... oh well ...

BAH-bye

3ware makes RAIDs

cheap SANCubes?

FD or Fantom Drives

What gives?

Cobalt Raid Products

snap

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A Sad Day

Genesis II

Sad Day Indeed

Sad Day Indeed

DataDocks were superb

San Cube

San Cube for sale...

Pricing

Support?

Its amazing!

Former employee

What a shame....

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