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Connectix ships VirtualPC 4 w/ Windows 2000

updated 01:15 pm EST, Tue February 20, 2001

Connectix has begun shipping VirtualPC 4 with Windows 2000 for $250. VirtualPC 4 is also available with Windows 98 or Windows Me for $200, or DOS for $100.

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WinMe speed?

has anyone tried VPC4 with WinME? Is it much slower than Win98?

Personally I will not purchase VPC until they release an OS X compatible version.

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Why no Linux yet?

Could it possibly be to comply with the agreement Connectix had to sign in order to get microsoft to not sue them?

b*******.

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Because it takes time.

Give us time... and I'd like to know what agreement you're talking about. Microsoft has never threatened to sue us, and that's certainly not the reason why the linux build is out yet.

Also, the info in the original article is wrong. The Win98 and WinME versions are $179, and the DOS version is $79.

Oh, and first commenter... you'll be waiting until after Apple releases OS X then. We are committed to releasing a version for Mac OS X, and we plan to release it as close as possible to Apple's release of OS X.

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Upgrade Windows?

Is it possible to upgrade VPC 4 with Win98 to Win2000? If so, what's involved? I asked tech support some time ago but never got a response.

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Speed

I never had the chance to talk to someone on Connectix but now that i can i will.
Tell me something, how faster will be the OSX version of VPC? will be any chance to use the Video Acelerators with os x?

Thanks

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Windows Upgrades

Yes, you can upgrade from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 but that would involve you purchasing the Win2k upgrade from Microsoft. The application used with Win98 and Win2k is the same, so there's no reason to purchase VPC a second time. The only gotcha would be making sure that you have enough drive space within Windows before attepting to upgrade.

Connectix Representative

(Oh, and this isn't a regular thing... posting here that is. I just felt a need to comment on the pricing)

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Bill Smith bmtk.8m.com

I have VPC4 and have loaded and run Win2000 and WinME. I really like it so far. I just played You Don't Know Jack on the WinME side since it doesn't work now in OS 9. It played flawlessly. Just a few audio pops, but I did no tweaking. Looks just like you sat down at a windows PC.

I've got VPC3 as well and it's hard to really state the improvement. It seems better, but I can't say by what magnitude. Just smoother. No long sighs in-between execution. It also lets me work in Mac at the same time with little speed reduction hit.

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cheap win

oh, search at google to find the Indiana University Microsoft agreement. It lets one buy Windows and most software for $5 a disk!

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VPC under OS X

User, I wish I could answer that question for you, but as I'm sure you can understand, I am not able to comment on unreleased products.

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Dual Support

I wonder if Connectix will ever support the option to actually use the dual processors in the Mac so that Windows NT and 2000 will actually see the 2 processors?

I'm running VPC with Windows 98, Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000. All 3 run flawlessly and pretty quick with this new version.

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Dual Support

I wonder if Connectix will ever support the option to actually use the dual processors in the Mac so that Windows NT and 2000 will actually see the 2 processors?

I'm running VPC with Windows 98, Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000. All 3 run flawlessly and pretty quick with this new version.

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Win ME Speed

I've installed Win 98SE, ME and 2000 Professional on VPC4. I haven't run any benchmarks but ME feels slower than 98 or 2000.

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Connectix Representative

I know you can't comment on unreleased products but could you do two things for us, the users:

1) Give us a little hint; Carbon or Cocoa.

2) Send off a little info to whomever is responsible: for the OS X version of VPC, we, the users, would really like to see SMP and Altivec support. Have this in the release and I will be the first in line to purchase it.

Thanks for talking with us.

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Well, no dual...

There will not be dual support anytime soon, as Windows has never really supported duals.. so it was never an issue for VPC... As for Altivec support, version 4 DOES support and use it... The only true thing lacking is that it still emulates an old graphics card, and does not tap into the macs video accelerator. Unfortunately, this affects the percieved performance a lot, as the screen draws and overall gui response is slower because of it.

I do not know, but I would be willing to bet that the X version is carbon.

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VPC & Doubletalk with OSX

I've been using DoubleTalk and VPC 3.0 on my G3 500 PowerBook and need both capabilities in an NT network. The two work separately but not together.

Will the OSX versions bring these into harmony? I'll upgrade to VPC 4.x as soon as they will!

I just love hearing the comment "your mac can do that? wow"

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Why so pricey in Japan?

I was hoping to buy VPC4 directly from Connectix, but I couldn't get into their eStore without my browser freezing and received no response from Connectix in response to my email. Since I needed a Wintel system quickly (and didn't want to get hardware if I could avoid it), I went to a shop in downtown Tokyo and picked up the Japanese version.

VPC 4.0 installed easily, and I was pleasantly surprised when it accepted the installation of the Windows 95 that came with my old SoftWindows. So far it performs flawlessly under a minimum system configuration, and I can forgive it for freezing when I tried to lauch Windows while using a bunch of unrelated extensions.

One thing that I don't like, however, was the price in Japan. The list prices here are fully double the prices being advertised in the States: 42,800 yen (about $370) for the WinME version, and 17,800 yen (about $150) for the PC-DOS version.

Furthermore, although the info on Connectix's web site indicates that it is possible to install VPC in a Japanese version (as well as a few other languages) from the US package, the manual for the localized package (which is marketed by MediaVision) does not seem to mention the possibility of installing VPC in any language other than Japanese. If this is true, then I've paid twice as much money for LESS functionality!

Double the cost of the software seems a heavy price to pay for a manual that's been translated into Japanese. Tell me it ain't so!

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Why so pricey in Japan?

I was hoping to buy VPC4 directly from Connectix, but I couldn't get into their eStore without my browser freezing and received no response from Connectix in response to my email. Since I needed a Wintel system quickly (and didn't want to get hardware if I could avoid it), I went to a shop in downtown Tokyo and picked up the Japanese version.

VPC 4.0 installed easily, and I was pleasantly surprised when it accepted the installation of the Windows 95 that came with my old SoftWindows. So far it performs flawlessly under a minimum system configuration, and I can forgive it for freezing when I tried to lauch Windows while using a bunch of unrelated extensions.

One thing that I don't like, however, was the price in Japan. The list prices here are fully double the prices being advertised in the States: 42,800 yen (about $370) for the WinME version, and 17,800 yen (about $150) for the PC-DOS version.

Furthermore, although the info on Connectix's web site indicates that it is possible to install VPC in a Japanese version (as well as a few other languages) from the US package, the manual for the localized package (which is marketed by MediaVision) does not seem to mention the possibility of installing VPC in any language other than Japanese. If this is true, then I've paid twice as much money for LESS functionality!

Double the cost of the software seems a heavy price to pay for a manual that's been translated into Japanese. Tell me it ain't so!

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Linux on VPC

If you want to run linux on VPC, get the DOS version and install a version of linux on top of that.

I got VPC (v3.x) including Red Hat Linux and was able to sucessfully install SuSe linux based on the hardware emulation specs provided in the VPC manual.

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SMP not relevant

SMP doesn't add performance, it decreases it. If you put 2 500MHz processors in a machine, you never get 1GHz of performance - and the dual G4's are more efficient than dual pentia. VPC has no reason to make dual processors on a G4 visible as dual processors on NT or 2000 - cache contention is bad enough in hardware. What VPC can do is be multi-threadded and take advantage of OSX's SMP support for multi-threadded applications. Its tasks can be spread across G4's but you'd never want to see more than 1 virtual pentium in the NT environment.

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VPC & Linux

Why would you ever want to run Linux in emulation anyway. Just create another partition and install Linux (it's FREE you know)!!!

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Upgrade dos to Win98

Hi,
I have a copy of Win98 already. If I get the DOS version, can I upgrade it to Win98 ?

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Red Hat

What do you mean no Linux? Isn't there a VPC with Red Hat?

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VPC & Linux

You would want to use VPC w/Linux for various reasons: 1. So you can buy VPC and not have any royalty money go to M$. 2. Play with an x86 version of Linux - there are binaries out there that don't have PPC counterparts, and if you are not good at programing and recompiling, you'll have a really hard time trying to run x86 binaries under a PPC Linux. 3. You can totally hose your system as you're learning Linux without worry - and all you have to do is trash the virtual hard drive file. :)

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Upgrade DOS to Win98

If you already own a legitimate copy of Win98, there is nothing to stop you from installing it on a VPC DOS partition just like you would anything else. While the Connectix package is likely MUCH easier, there is not a reason in the world you should buy another copy of Windows if you already own one. Except that is if you are still using the copy of Windows on another machine, right?

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Re: cheap win

You can't buy Windows for $5 at Indiana University unless you go there! What good is that for the other 99.9999999% of the world?

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VPC4 upgrade

I have upgraded to VPC4 from 3/win98 and had lots of problems with system freezing. I have been able to run install of the system to generate the new expandble drive by using only the OS 9.0.4 base extension. Then when I try to run VPC I still get syste freezing leading to reboot.
I guess that I have some extension conflict.
Connectix were no help as normal.
Does anyone have any ideas, I had read a review which idicated that this freeze was a standard problem?

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Dual Processor support

Dual processor support would be a big bonus in VPC.

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G4 533Mhz

I wonder do you guy have this problem on your brand new PowerMac G4533Mhz.When i started the machine it works fine ,after i clip Virtual PC i got freeze and bomb.And i had more then 512MB Ram inside the board,and i did asign 192MB memory for Virtual PC
I ready need someone that can help .

ThZ

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Connectix ships VirtualPC 4 w/ Windows 2000

updated 01:15 pm EST, Tue February 20, 2001

WinMe speed?

Why no Linux yet?

Because it takes time.

Upgrade Windows?

Speed

Windows Upgrades

Bill Smith bmtk.8m.com

cheap win

VPC under OS X

Dual Support

Dual Support

Win ME Speed

Connectix Representative

Well, no dual...

VPC & Doubletalk with OSX

Why so pricey in Japan?

Why so pricey in Japan?

Linux on VPC

SMP not relevant

VPC & Linux

Upgrade dos to Win98

Red Hat

VPC & Linux

Upgrade DOS to Win98

Re: cheap win

VPC4 upgrade

Dual Processor support

G4 533Mhz

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