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It's a joke

Doesn't worth the bandwidth... wait for Netscape 5.0... LOL~~~~~

it's a big mistake to jump from 4 to 6~~~~! HAHA

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Huh?

These guys still make a browser? Huh. ;)

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Still not ready...

...wake me up when Mozilla 1.0 is out. Even the current nightlies of it beat the pants off NS6 in every way.

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OOOHHH Wait!

OOhhh, Wait, look!!!!!!

It is still a piece of s***!

If s*** could have s*** of its own, it would still be better and have a cleaner interface than NS 6!!!

Z.

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actually tried it?

have any of you guys actually downloaded it and tried it out?

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working great for me

Don't know what all the whining is about.. it's kicking IE's butt on my PB G3/500..

And you know, at least the company is LISTENING to people and taking feedback and actually DOING something about it...unlike a lot of companies.

But maybe you whiners are right. Why bother? Just drop out of the browser market. let Microsoft have it. As if the news wasn't slamming Apple all over anyway (as usual).. that would REALLY make companies want to switch to the Mac. "Wow, such a limited browser choice.. we have more options on Windows, we'll stay there!"

Great attitude, guys. Great...

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using it now

and it's working very well! I notice a vast speed improvement over the 6.0 release.

I like it.

Sorry some others feel they have to spew piss & vinegar all over the place. :(

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OOOHHH Wait!

OOhhh, Wait, look!!!!!!

It is still a piece of s***!

If s*** could have s*** of its own, it would still be better and have a cleaner interface than NS 6!!!

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Same as Mozilla 0.7

I've already reported the same bug about Mozilla 0.7. The sidebar tries to load the bookmark tab, and gets stuck. Watch cursor stuck going nowhere, and the only way to leave it is to Force Quit (command-option-escape). This happens even if I drag an HTML document over the application (a web browser should be able to browse local files without going online), this happens even if I increase the minimum and preferred to 25 MB in the Get Info box. Intriguingly the link given above is to an ftp address. Smart update and http://download.netscape.com mention nothing about this new version. I think the ftp directory above is just for a local test. And a good sign this isn't the real thing, it hasn't been posted at Versiontracker.com

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netscape 6.01

still can't handle certain java script...also has a helluva time with certificates created by netscape's certificate server...can't figure that one out...sad...

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using it now

and it's working very well! I notice a vast speed improvement over the 6.0 release.

I like it.

Sorry some others feel they have to spew piss & vinegar all over the place. :(

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versiontracker is behind

This is not a "test" version. " And a good sign this isn't the real thing, it hasn't been posted at Versiontracker.com
" -- totally incorrect. Sorry.

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I don't know...

Netscape is refusing me access to download the update. Also smartupdate doesn't recognize it. My guess is they are preparing to announce its release.

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To the guy complaining

To the guy complaining that not using this and using IE instead is adding to Microsoft monopoly...

WHAT ABOUT AOL's MONOPOLY?! s*** man! They are a giant in the industry too! I say, pick the browser that works best. And for me, that's IE. AOL really FUCT up the Netscape project.

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Time for iWeb?!

Hey, you know what would be the ultimate? If Apple got back in the web browser business. Remember CyberDog? I remember using that as my main browser a while ago. Not that bad, but never maintained.

Now imagine if Apple could Cocoa-up a cool a** browser, the browser to kill all browsers, doing things only possible on OS X. Totally simplify the whole experience, ship it with all plugins installed, integrated and fast and totally transparent Java 2 support, etc etc.

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iWeb? -- No, OmniWeb

Omni already has the browser you're looking for.

Though still in Beta, and still with some bugs, OmniWeb is shaping up to be pretty much the best browser on any platform.

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Come on

Hi all...

I wonder what browser you were using only 3 years ago. I've just installed Netscape 6 and it is good, but a bit slow on my B&W G3 (350MHz). Maybe you should be open minded a bit.

Good luck with IE.

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This is bad

After installing NS6.01, went to the Preferences and made changes. After completing the changes, I couldn't get out; NS froze and I was forced to restart. This is the same problem I had with 6.0! I don't know if these folks will ever get this browser to work properly.

I agree with a lot of the readers. Don't waste your time downloading and installing this item. Stay with 4.76 or IE.

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Much Better!

I just downloaded the new 6.01 and my scroll mouse works with it and it seems to be a lot speedier. I have a G3 300 and Netscape works quite nicely with it! Now I can get rid of Micro$oft once again! Thanks Netscape!

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Much Better?

So it finally works with scrolling mice, eh? Pretty ridiculous that it took this long to get that working. Anything that uses standard interface controls has this feature automatically. One of the biggest problems with NS6 and Mozilla is that they try to reinvent the wheel (and everything else), they don't use any of the standard controls that are built into the OS. The result is that they end up using way more RAM than they need to, they are sluggish and unresponsive, and they don't always act like you'd expect. So what if Mac NS looks and works exactly like Win NS and Linux NS and all the others, I don't want a Mac app that acts like a Windows app. You can dis microsoft all you want, I know there's a lot of resentment for them among Mac users, but their Mac products are truely Mac products. I'm all for competition in the browser market and all markets but I don't see NS or Mozilla as being competition for anything. Face it, NS 4.7 is too old to be useful, and 6 is just too out of touch. IE 5 for Mac is a really nice browser with some great features, I especially like being able to tab to all of the elements in a form, I haven't seen that in any other browser. I'm also a big fan of iCab, especially on OSX, the pre-fetch feature is a real innovation. OmniWeb sort of annoys me but I recognize that it has potential. There is more competition in the Mac browser market than any other OS, and that's not counting NS or Mozilla. This thing can die the death it deserves and we're still left with a brighter future than Windows users.

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Worth to take a look ?

this is the update I have been waiting on..
NS 6 is much speedier and stable.

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Worth to take a look ?

this is the update I have been waiting on..
NS 6 is much speedier and stable.

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Browser Future

Netscape 6 is still not the browser for me, but it is getting better.

The Mozilla nightly builds are really looking good. I expect that one of them will be my default browser before this month is over. Mozilla 1.0 is not far off now.

When March rolls around, I will take another look at OmniWeb. As others have said, it has potential.

For those IE ans out there, watch out. Interesting things are going on at Microsoft; although we will hopefully finally have an update to IE by July, do not expect a lot more development from Redmond. Microsoft has spent a lot of R&D money on IE over the last few years, but even though that has enabled IE to become the dominant web browser on the net, it really has not generated much income for them. Microsoft is facing some hard times ahead and IE development is probably not going to be worth continuing the investment unless they restructure their licensing agreements.

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Moz 0.8

Okay, icab is still better, has some major problem w/ spacebar, one person operation, but doable. Mozilla is looking great. OmniWeb is one reason I can't wait for OS X - it really is that good now - and "cocoa" too, none of this half-way Carbon stuff.

I agree that AOL is more of pain - never been nice to Mac users, always had its own non-standard email and stuff. And full of ad-ware and dozens of cookies per site. I hate AOL and the CNN Time-Warner control of news.

Mozaic, left in the dust, the early hope, burned out programmers, dot com bust.

Netscape forces you to register. Tried to get us to buy the buggy NN1.1 version.

There is something to be said for sitting down and no matter what OS, being able to navigate the web without having to learn a bunch of new commands and stuff.

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Rocks!

Netscape 6.01 is much faster than 6.0 was.

Good job.

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Mozilla 1.0

The folks will get NS6 working good. but you have to remember that NS6 = Mozilla!! And Mozilla is still at 0.7, not even 1.0!!! so in a few months when Mozilla 1.0 comes out, Netsacpe will come out with Netscape 6.1 and it will be based on he official OPTIMIZED(!) Mozilla 1.0

is anyone in here too dumb to get that??

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THANK you

I was wondering what the diff btwn Netscape 6 and the latest Mozilla builds was ...

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still sorry a** c***

I don't care if they increase the speed by a 1000, N6 is the sorriest piece of s*** I've used, and the fastest download-install-uninstall-trash apps on my iMac! The damn thing crashed from--get this--clicking on the bookmarks button! Sorry a** AOL Time Warner--can't make movies, report the news fairly, NOR make good browsers anymore...

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This interface...

sucks a**. The update definitly has improved responsiveness,but simple things that should work like "about Netscape"don't (h*** M$ can even do that right, actually their about implementation is kind of slick). But it looks like this browser is to be relegated verifying html only for now on.

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Mozilla 0.7

IS this Mozilla 0.7, by any chance? Sure seems like it, with the scroll-wheel support and whatnot.

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Mozilla, iCab, OmniWeb

I'm glad to see Netscape is still working to improve their product, but they (and Mozilla) took so long to get where they are that I'm not convinced they can beat iCab and MSIE. I play with the nightly builds of Mozilla, and I'm pleased with what I see, but the iCab folks have done so much in so little (relative) time that I don't hold out too much hope for Mozilla, nor OmniWeb for that matter. (Omni has been working on thier browser for, what, five years now?)

The only feature of Mozilla that genuinely impresses me is its open source.

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Won't install!

The original was so bad, it would Type 2 every time I would try to install it. Even with only Mac OS 9 extensions enabled. (System: G4 dual 500, 192MB RAM, Mac OS 9.0.4.)

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Open Sourced

I actually feel like that is one of the problems with Netscape 6. It feels more like a linux app than a mac app. I hate the skinable interface. Appearence savvy would have been so much better IMHO. Or Appearence savvy with the option to use skins.

I am also disapointed to see that it still does not support background images in tables or background images in CSS. WOW but it does support the AOL ART format. Like anyone cares.

I also don't like how it stores stuff in the Documents folder instead of the prefs or application support because otherwise I wouldn't have a Documents folder.

It is still slower than IE5 also and uses more RAM and hard disk space. I am not a big Microsoft fan and IE5 is the only product of theirs I use but they at least built a decent browser which is something Netscape hasn't been able to do in a long time. I am looking forward to IE5.5, Omni, iCab once they build in support for CSS and other things, and even Opera if they can ever get their act together and actually ship something.

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Cool

This is a really cool version of the browser. So far it seems better than IE5.

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Still will not work!

in the previous versions of Netscape you were able to send a web page to a specified address book list...

Now with all the new enhancements and s***, everything looks great but blows big d*** because it simply will not work at all... You can send a page just to entries entered manualy, not an address book list. It could be a nice browser FIX THIS s***! I DOWNLOADED BOTH MAC AND PC VERSIONS THINKING THAT THE 6.0.1 UPDATE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT BUT NOOOOOO IT DID NOT!!!!! sorry for my lack of nice words but I always liked Netscape and this is making me want to forget I ever did.

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Bleh.

It's still an ad for everything AOL. Netscape used to be decent before it got damned bloated and buggy. And it's FULL of ads and other links to AOL s***, like we don't get enough of their garbage every day already. Even if M$ is the Evil Empire, their browser is still better than Nutscrape.

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Scared off by the Beta

While I understand that beta code can have it's problems, I downloaded the last Beta test of NS 6 some time ago. I found the interface horrifying, I thought the program had insoluable problems and it was not fit to run.

It also locked up my computer during the first fifteen minutes.

I use Netscape 4.6 and 4.7 (depending on which of my Macs I'm running at the time). I like it, I know the interface and I find it lean enough to serve me very well. I do have to allocate lots of RAM to it but I have plenty of RAM for surfing as long as I'm not running Photoshop at the same time (which I don't tend to do while surfing).

The folks at AOL (or Mozilla.org) scared me with last Summer's beta. I won't upgrade my browser until I find a compelling reason to do so (like something that works natively in OS X as soon at I have a power application that runs natively in OS X).

I'm not a total upgrade fanatic though. I don't seek out new reasons to put something "new and improved" on my hard drives. I'm still using Microsoft Office 4.2.1, in fact (because I know it very well and am very productive in it). I do upgrade my computer when there is something very compelling (like Final Cut Pro) that requires the upgrade.

But much to the probable dismay of companies like Microsoft and (in this case) AOL, I don't rush out to get the "next big thing" just because it's being marketed. I'll spend my money on more RAM, more hard disk space and things that really matter.

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at least i'm not using m

tried 6.0 didn't like it much so went back to 4.7
i'll wait until they do make a better one or i'll wait and pay for opera. at least i'm not using something by a pack of thieves.

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at least i'm not using m

tried 6.0 didn't like it much so went back to 4.7
i'll wait until they do make a better one or i'll wait and pay for opera. at least i'm not using something by a pack of thieves.

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Netscape

Oh my! Cuddies cuddies. I downloaded this c***. My computer now has Netscape cuddies. AAAAAAAHHHHHHH icky.......this browser sucks.

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still major problems

i loaded 6.01 from scratch & it still crashes constantly on a G4 w/ 9.04. won't even work long enough to use. oh well, back ti IE 5.

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You s**** up not Netscape

I wonder how many of the people who are bitching and moaning about Net 6.1 have followed the correct way to install software? In years of helping Mac users the most common reason for problems is that the users were stupid, not the software. If your having problems with Netscape try doing it the right way!

1) set up an install extension set. This should be the OS basic plus what ever is absolutely necessay to run the system, ie., if,like me, you have DSL, keep you drivers to use you link.

2) Download the install and run it like that. You'll find that most things run just fine. Like Netscape

3) Restart with your usuall extension set, if you start having problems now you know you have a conflict and can start looking for it.

4a) Use Extension overload to make sure you're not using any control panels or extensions that you don't need. If you don't need it - trash it! It eats up system resources and creates the possibilty of conflicts. Also, many just don't sit there they're trying to do something and may cause problems if they can't do what they are supposed to.

4b) Use C&G's conflict catcher to find the problem. More that likely you will also solve other problems at the same time.

Just tossing in something is just asking for problems.

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Not so bad

I finally downloaded a copy of NS6.01 after listening to it be slammed for a year without having tried it. Imporvement must have been made because it's not half bad. Yes, it crashed twice in the first half hour and, no, I won't make it my main browser...yet. I thought it was whiplash fast at loading pages. I also liked the lay out and the option for being able to get rid of the side bar.
It's getting there and "there" looks good from here.

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Worst upgrade

I jumped from 4.7 to 6. Worst upgrade I've ever done. How can a simple browser be such a hog?

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Worst upgrade

I jumped from 4.7 to 6. Worst upgrade I've ever done. How can a simple browser be such a hog?

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Expert advice on Netscape

First of all, I have been a Netscape user for years and wish to continue on that path . . . Partly because I like Netscape and despise Microsoft, but I digress . . .

As a web developer I test all kinds of browser on all platforms, mainly for compatibility issues . . . And I was very excited about the announcement of the release of Netscape 6 (umm . .. version 5?) and had an open mind and favorable opinion from the get-go, having already been a Navigator fan. . . but what followed was tragic . . .

First of all, the installer put thousands of docs all over my desktop during the install. Then it FORCED me to register with Netscape. Then it has crashed my computer ever since. I am sorely disappointed. Don't even respond to this by saying something like "Use Conflict Catcher . ." or "Your the problem . ." That kind of bullshit doesn't fly with me . . . I know more than 95% of the Mac populace on how a Mac works . . inside and out . . . So the problem isn't user-oriented. And the problem isn't that I'm looking for something to gripe about . . I WANT to like version 6 . . .

Unfortuantely, it's terrible . . extremely unstable . . . and HIGHLY incompatible with basic system software . . . If you are using and haven't experienced any problems, you're lucky and it's only a matter of time . . . Or you just haven't narrowed your problems down to Netscape yet . . .

I will continue using veriosn 4.76 and IE 5 until there is a better browser out there . . maybe OmniWeb is the answer. . who knows? But Netscape 6 definitely isn't.

I'd rather wait a year for a good update to a product than 6 months for a crappy one.

Good luck Netscape . . . the better browser is kicking your a** . . . I hope it won't be for long though . . .

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Conflict Causer?

I would recommend against using Conflict Causer based on a number of years of running an engineering department for an Apple developer.

I haven't downloaded the 6.01 release of Netscape Navigator and don't plan to at this point in time. 4.7x is working pretty well for me now.

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No one is forced to regis

No one is forced to register. I clicked cancel and it runs just fine. It's amazing to see all these complaints from people who haven't tried it. No, it is not ready for prime use.

However, as a pure browser only it is far superior to IE in speed. The bookmark limit is gone as far as I can see in 6.0.1, that is something IE won't fix no matter how many of us complain.

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The maturity level

in here ranks about grade 6. Nice to see the Mac community degrading from the inside. you go guys, bring it down!

And having been tech support in various degrees over the years, I'd have to say that yes, 75% of computer error is really stupid human error. b**** and swear all you want, you're still jackasses.

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Getting Better

I have tried many of the previous beta's and the last version 6 and was always disappointed. So far this has been running well (only 1 day so far). It also feels pretty fast (I'm running a 450Mhz G4).

I'm running 9.0.4 with all the latest updates.

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Speed will never be there

Don't wait for some speed improvements with the Netscape distribution or Mozilla. Mozilla, which Netscape is based upon, is Java based. Meaning the whole program is a Java program running out of its own Java VM.

Now we all know that Java applets run quite slowly on the Mac OS. Maybe with Mac OS X it will be better, but with any previous version of Mac OS--forget it! It's just going to suck.

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*sigh*

So i suppose that the broken proxy auto-config in the 6.0 release was also the fault of a user?

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Staying with the Moz

I am using Mozilla, one of the nightly builds on OS9.1 and LinuxPPC. I like Mozilla, and have no real desire to try Netscape. I will try Omni when i get my hot hands on OSX.

Good luck to Netscape. All browsers suck at first. Keep working, keep listening to the consumer. You'll get it right.

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to "this is bad"

What's funny is that an app freezes, but people fail to mention that their machine freezes all the time anyway because they have SKANKWARE like Kalidascope on their machine, or they're using FreePPP 2.5 under MacOS 9.....

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it does NOT force you./.

TO REGISTER.. you STUPID IDIOTS...
See the "I am under 13 years old" link? CLICK THAT YOU MORONS - the browser does ****NOT**** force you to register.

People bitched at Netscape to "Ship ns6! ship ns6!" so they did, now they get "you should have waited" - make up your minds, please?

Get used to the "Documents" folder. Eudora sticks stuff there. ALL the Microsoft apps stick stuff there. Only right that Netscape 6 stick its stuff there now too. besides, it's easier to move around that way.

Open source? A good idea at the time, but as with a lot of other OSS projects, a waste of time. Who needs a stupid IRC app in the Mozilla builds? Geez, cut OUT the bloat (and it's NOT AOL sticking an IRC app in there)
I'm just waiting for the open source napster clone to get attached.

Oh, btw, you CAN download just the bits you want - you are NOT forced to download the Mail & News. But, only the ignorant whiners fail to see that..

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Give this a go

The previous version of Netscape 6 was totally unusable on my PB3400, but this 'maintenance release' has made a BIG difference. It's worth the wait for the still cludgy startup time because this runs about as fast as Explorer now (and without the irritating 3-second lockups that IE likes to perform on my computer).

Still not quite there, but definitely a massive improvement (as it'd bloody better have been after their last one!

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Getting closer to I.E.

Well I went through all the pages of comments of how good/bad NS6 is while running NS6, yeah 6.01, thinking that "well it's refreshing the page dynamically now as I resize the browser window, that's kewl" It hasn't crashed on me although it did have a problem saving my prefences after I changed the theme to the "classic" look and had to cancel, go back in and set them again.

I do like that you can turn off the side window thingy

I don't like it that I can't get rid of the crud at the bottom of the window, business,tech,fun,interact stuff. Does anyone know how outside of going back to 4.7?

I don't like it that I can't turn off the icons for the back, forward reload, etc and just have text, like in 4.7.

I don't like it that now when my cursor is in the location window and I hit the alt left or right arrow it doesn't work as my back and forward or that when I hit the down/up arrow instead of going to the beginning or end of the url line it gives me previous urls in the history just like on a Windows machine, this sucks and I aint cummin.

I don't like the fact that my javascripts don't work as they have for so long and now I have to figure out the work around, does anyone know wuzzup wit dat?

It is strange that the about netscape doesn't work, I wouldn't have known that had I not read it from above comments I just typed about: in the location window.

Now I've heard that NS6 does CSS better than other browsers I still need to check this out.

To those ppl giving a big @#$% you to the tech dude he/she definately needed that as all tech dudes do just to keep them honest, yeah newbies will do things wrong that's why you're/we are there... oops I digress, NS6 It doesn't suck that bad, I don't care for the new look butt at least there is the "classic look"

Ah? What else do I like about it? Oops I found something I don't like, ah s*** I can't just click and hold on a link to open in new window or click and hold to view source, hey this is really starting to suck, oh no my maturity level is falling.

So do you think NS is listening? I better stop before I find more things wrong with it.

Long live open source, free software, and constructive hacking.

ciao

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It's just like...

a Microsoft Product: tries to do too much. They really blew it. It loads slowly, has too complex an interface, runs slowly, is now a advertisement billboard, and tries to be all things for all people.

Keep it simple. iCab is so much easier and quicker. Omni looks tempting, when I get OS X.

Stick with 4.7 or go download iCab.

This one is totally disappointing.

P.S. Why can't they figure this one basic thing out: if they want me to move from Browser X to their Browser, give me simple import filters to do the trick. If I'm running IE, give me a way to import from IE. Until they do that, they make life way too difficult for anybody not on AOL.

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Oh Geez

So I'm wondering where are the cache files? I find them in of all places my documents folder. I don't know about anyone else but I go into my cache alot to pull out .mov's and .swf's to see what kind of junk some sites send but now NS puts a s*** load of folders into the cache, doesn't leave the extentions on the file such as .swf, .html,.gif,.jpg so like how the h*** am I to find these files all files fall into some folder with criptic names like 00ff0017 for an html file and 00ff0020 for a graphics file geez I don't want to have to say it but this thing SUX.

Staying with 4.7 I hope AOL/Time Warner dies a horrible and painful death.

Omni's OK, iCab's OK s*** IE is way better than this trash.

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I Really Want to Use It

I really would love to dump all my Microsoft Software, including IE5. Netscape 6.01 is still a bit buggy but getting better. Hurry up and finish it already guys!!!!

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Goddamn idiots

Really. There's no way to turn off the importing of IE bookmarks. Excuuuse me!??! What If I don't want them there, ever? Tough, we'll do that for you, we're oh so helpful.

Grr.

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Carbon anyone?

Does anyone know if there are plans to release a carbon or cocoa version of Netscape? It was my favorite browser on any platform in version 4.76 (didn't seem to have any problems, as fast as most other stuff, file transfers worked) but I tried 6 when I still used OS 9 and it was far too slow. Of course I refuse to use IE because it seems to have a download error about 1 of every 3 d/l attempts (and because M$ makes it, I am a "purist") and everything else for OS X is too early in development (and I know that Mozilla is supposed to be up to date but I could never get the X version to run). iCab is great in OS 9, fast and supports the basic features (completion) but its Javascript and Java support are lacking. In X it uses way too many resources and doesn't run that quickly (carbon is inefficient) and OmniWeb isn't yet done. I use Omni but it lacks complete Java and Javascript support (but they blame some of that on incomplete Java applet cocoa APIs) and it doesn't do completion which I think is a must-have.

I just don't understand why you are all so mad at Netscape. If you don't like it, wait for the final release, and if you don't like THAT, use something else and stop making these forums seem so violent.

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HEY IT"S BETTER THAN IE

I THINK IT BEATS IE 5 IN LOADING WEBSITES. THE ONLY THING IS IT SUCKS AT PLUG-INS. BUT I GIVE IT 4 out of 5 STARS!

HEHE

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Class

Or the lack of it. Given you lack of vocab. just use telnet -- you'll get to all the information you can process anyway

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for s**** sake

I previously posted on the second set of post's last comment on that page... "Address Book list etc..."

I just wanted to add that out of all the current browsers based on what I do, which is Web Site Design / Development Netscape has earned a very good possition on the Map of Browsers that work well with the way code is handled. IE5 Works Best based on the functional ability to display a whole lot more of the things Netscape is unable to show. In other words Limmitations such as html code that Netscape simply will not unserstand, however same goes for EI somewhat. This is part of being a web developer and its all fine and dandy. The hard part for me to get used to is the fact that Netscape 4.6+ worked and worked well, however 6.0 comes out and has more problems that any version of 4.x ever did. There are a lot of neat DHTML functions that are lie deep within Netscape 6 but still misses big on basic code it does not understand, meanwhile EI does. The Interface is original and modern looking which complements the term "NEW" hehe. thats about the only thing they fixed, and they did not do it well at that... that and the font size issue ;)

AOL still sucks even by the time it turns version X lol AOL is the best for ones that think inside the box. AOL is very web unfriendly... It has the best Chat rooms but thats all AOL should have been... A big chat room portal perhaps called a******* on line...

EI is the best by default.

Netscape perhaps you should post that bloody downgrade stay with 4.76 perhaps improve on it as is.

Good Luck

Personally Im hopeing Apple begins development of its own Browser.
In addition to that perhaps Macromedia and Adobe should go at it aswell.

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An Apple Browser?

No. What would be the point? There are already 4 major, modern browsers for the Mac. That gives Mac users more choice than windows or linux users have. Think about it, with so much choice already out there, why should Apple waste their resources on something like that?

Apple makes unique, Mac only software like iMovie, iDVD, and iTunes and they can say "Buy a Mac, you can't do this stuff on any other platform." If they wasted their time making yet another browser, what's the marketing pitch on that? "Buy a Mac, we have more browsers than we know what to do with!"

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too slow and clumsy

Start up is slow, I can't get Quicktime to work internally (program loads everything to the desktop), and bits of American news pop up everywhere (sidebar, with my mail...). A real pain in the arse. I've dumped it and gone back to 4.76.

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Switching from IE

Actually, this 6.01 update is much better. I'm ditching my IE5.0 for now, at least 'till I get OS X. the who knows what. If they made this carbon compliant I'd definately use it. It's much faster than IE and cleaner. Time will tell on stability.

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NS6 and quicktime

any of you who've downloaded the 6.1 update, have you had any success with quicktime plug-ins? I could never get it to work with NS6, and that was a major factor in my decision to go back to 4.7.

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Timings

Some informal timings between IE 5 and Netscape 6.0.1 (all on a 6400 with a 400 MHz G3 upgrade card and cable modem connection)

Netscape IE Website
14.13 14.03 cnn
11.04 9.89 msnbc
14.22 11.14 abcnews
6.65 5.34 apple
10.52 11.79 usatoday
6.23 5.08 sun
6.29 6.73 microsoft

Oh yeah, Netscape was using 31.7 MEG and IE 11.8 MEG. While this isn't a scientific experiment I would say IE is still the clear winner. It's a little faster but uses much less memory.

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It's still a loser...

Well, this is the second time I've downloaded NS6. It's still very buggy and way to complicated for it's own good. I've spent the last 2 hours trying to set up and import mail from NS4.7.6 to no avail. I get some stuff, but not my inbox.

Overall, it's slow, clunky, and pretty much useless as far as what I want in a browser. Load time is a joke. Getting to the mail is ridiculous. I think Netscape has really blown it with NS6. They've forgotten that sometimes simple is better. No one that I know is happy with it, no matter which platform they're using. Unless Netscape gets it's act together soon, I'm gonna stop taking them seriously. In fact, I'm on my way to dump this NS6 c*** and go try out IE5. I'm sorry it's come to that.

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