Quark says it will support Mac OS X and that is already working on a Carbonized version of QuarkXPress that will be released after the non-Carbonized XPress 5.0 ships, according to Macworld UK.
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There is one, and only one, thing that will get me to switch from Quark to InDesign.... If Adobe comes out with a carbon (Cocoa?) version of InDesign by summer 2001...Adobe, I'm sooo there dudes. Quark can kiss my hini on that one.
There is one, and only one, thing that will get me to switch from Quark to InDesign.... If Adobe comes out with a carbon (Cocoa?) version of InDesign by summer 2001...Adobe, I'm sooo there dudes. Quark can kiss my hini on that one.
Quark is in trouble no matter what they do. Adobe has clearly stated that InDesign will be ready soon after OS-X's release. Quark 5 which they say is ready, however, needs another 6 months of testing will be out in fall with no carbonization. This tells me that the following carbon release will require another six months of coding minimum and another six months of testing. So we are looking at fall 2002 or early 2003.
Our company is taking the policy that all future updates must be OS-X native or must contain a promised free update when X is ready. Even if Quark desides to give an OS-X free update to version 5 users (LOL), we would be waiting a year and a half. InDesign is going to be making major inroads within that time frame and I truly believe Quark is going to get its *ss kicked. Quark should have done what Adobe did a year ago and that was to work with Apple and develop OS-X. Quark is waiting for things to get handed to them and for this they will lose.
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Remember when Quark charged $199 to upgrade to the PPC version of Xpress 3.1? That sucked.
remember, if Quark doesn't carbonize, and it has to load in Classic, its memory will effectively be IN ADDITION TO Classic running. So anything you hear from them saying "will run in just X amount of RAM" be sure to add in Classic starting up (which, at this point, would be an extra 64 MB RAM hit, minimum).
Thanks to a friend I have had the opportunity to experiment with Quark. Despite its OS7 look and feel, it seems to do its job quite well and my designer friends say it is the way to go--but have been holding back on purchasing a copy because they tend to charge for every upgrade, and an upgrade is overdue.
I WILL be getting OSX and I will be upgrading my applications. I think it sad that such an expensive product is so far behind. Perhaps it's time to investigate InDesign?
Having written Quark plug-ins, I can tell you that there is no way they will be writing a Carbon version. It's just too old and clunky. They will have to start over. The program is just too reliant on older parts of the OS which no longer exist, and it does too many things which aren't allowed under OS X's protected memory, etc.
In starting over, they could solve all of their application problems. But it wouldn't matter anyway, as their customer relations problems are much worse than their programming problems.
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My friend who works for Quark and who demoed Quark 5 pre-alpha recently said that 5.0 is just recently feature locked and entering alpha, where it will be for quite a while. There will be a beta sometime mid to late summer and release is hoped for in fall. Then they will be able to really focus on the carbonizing. He was pushing for carbonizing much sooner, but the company decided to push for release for whatever they could get ASAP. While it is true that they are working on carbonizing now, it looks like it is only a few of their people are on it until 5 is out.
My guess, based on my discussions with him is that we won't see a carbon Quark5.x until Q2 2002.
I think Quark is counting on the print design industry to continue to be the slow adopters of new technology that they have been in the past.