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Cisco launches 5000-user wireless router

updated 09:35 am EST, Wed January 24, 2001

 
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Cisco today announced Aironet 350, a family of 802.11b (Airport) compliant enterprise networking products that support up to 5,000 simultaneous users. The Wireless Access Point, Wireless Bridge, and Workgroup Bridge sell for $1,500, $2,000, and $6300, respectively. Microsoft and UNC are among the first adopters of the technology, with Microsoft hoping to expand the Aironet 350's capacity to 20,000 users.


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    Yeah right

    Microsoft will "expand" the capacity by adding proprietary protocols that are only supported on Windoze2000 servers - not what *I* want.

    Unfortunately a lot of manufacturing is in love with MS and its Windoze EVERYWHERE mantra. And you thought bundling the web browser into the OS was an anti-trust violation? HAH! Microsoft will soon control every aspect of most manufacturing operations from the warehouse floor (PocketPC's with wireless networking) to the automated equipment (component/distributed software and WindozeCE for Manufacturing over Ethernet providing real-time control/information) up to the CEO's desk (Windoze 2000 Professional).

    Heck to be honest all you *need* is a Web browser, Java and embedded processors with built in TCP/IP stack and some type of Ethernet networking (802.11 is just Wireless Ethernet networking protocols), but then where would Microsoft get any revenues and iron-clad control from THAT?

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    AirPort?

    Will Apple's AirPort software support this new IEEE 802.1x security framework? It'd be awful to have Apple's wireless products locked out of company networks that adopt this framework.

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    AirPort?

    Will Apple's AirPort software support this new IEEE 802.1x security framework? It'd be awful to have Apple's wireless products locked out of company networks that adopt this framework.

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    802.11b

    I have 2 "words" regarding this discussion: WECA and Wi-Fi. Microsoft is not on WECA (Wireless Ethernet Compatibility Alliance) and does not make Wi-Fi (Wireless Fidelity) certified products. However, Cisco (who bought Aironet) and Apple are on the Board of Directors of WECA. WECA ensures that all Wi-Fi products are compatible. Mac users rejoice, this is one area Micro$oft does not dominate...yet.

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    "dumb-a**" name brandin

    All the new wireless cards and peripherals made for PC's have unbelievably ugly names (except for airport - which is witty). I'd hate to have to install one of these CISCO wireless networks just because the name offend me. I'm sure the next one out the gate will be O2net. As David Letterman would say, "Dumbasses".

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    "dumb-a**" posting

    Aironet was a company specializing in wireless connectivity WAY before Cisco bought them. Why not let us wonder if you're stupid before opening your mouth and confirming that fact. BTW, if you're afraid of Cisco gear, then get prepared because they are 80% of the routers on the Internet. BGP, IBGP, EIGRP, IGRP all connect your precious Internet connections and network connections at work so just be quiet.

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    Aironet 350

    It would sure be nice if everyone had posted something intelligent about the Aironet product line. Having actually set up this equipment it may suprise some Mac owners that this stuff is fairly easy to put together and make work. The site survey is the hardest part. The Access Point initially is configured via a Hyper Terminal connection and a serial cable. The command line is atrocious but once you have a valid IP Address you can access the Web browser and Bob's your uncle. Even the Lucent products are fairly straight forward unless you want to make two AP's act as a bridge. The real problem with all Cisco products is making sure you get the right piece of equipment to do the job. The Airport is really easy to configure, it looks good and includes a modem and DHCP server. But Apple must keep up with standards and ensure that the Airport is kept relevant. It was cool 2 years ago, now it's just part of a large crowd.

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    incompatible to AirPort!?

    I tried to connect to an Aironet Access Point with a Lucent-WaveLan PCCard in my Lombard PowerBook using the current AirPort software... no success. AppleTalk did work somehow but HTTP had extreme routing problems... I have no clue what was going on...

    Seems that the Lable IEEE 802.11 does not necessarily mean that the systems are compatible.

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    its the names

    that are worth complaing about. Not Cisco's involvement. (Cisco, which looks like Crisco or the Cisco Kid, not just the San Fran...they should have been called Sysco - more ironic, but it was taken decades ago). Sky this, Airo that, wave something. Aironet, spoken fast, sounds like hair net. But the standard of 802.11b is incredibly easy to operate. If this technology is going to be foisted (happily, mind you) on everyone, they should at least get some better names.

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    Compatible with AirPort

    For sure the Aironet access points are compatible with both Lucent (Orinoco) WaveLAN and Airport cards. That's the exact setup we use. In fact, since we turned on 128 encryption we've have to switch to all WaveLAN cards and drivers, disabling the Airport cards and Airport extensions. This is the real failing of Airport - not keeping up with the standards. Not only can we not use the Airport card because they only use 64 bit encryption, we can't even use the Airport drivers with the WaveLAN cards because we've been unable to get the 128 bit hexadecimal keys to work with the Airport software. If anyone has been able to do this, I'd love to know how. Rregardless, it shouldn't be this hard! Steve abmitted he was surprised by the amount of feedback he got on Airport usability (or lack there of) in Mac OS X. I can only hope that motivates folks at Apple to bring Airport encrytion and interoperability up to par with industry standards.

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