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Sculley: Apple should have used Intel chips

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Apple should have used Intel's chips when it had the chance, former chief John Sculley said Tuesday: "In the late-1980s, when Apple was using Motorola Inc. 68000 series chips and considering its next step, Intel co-founder Andy Grove tried to convince the company to migrate to Intel chips, Sculley told a standing-room-only crowd at the Silicon Valley 4.0 conference, held at the Computer History Museum, in Mountain View, Calif. An experienced team from Cupertino, California-based Apple studied the idea but turned it down. Apple concluded that Intel's CISC architecture ultimately would not be able to compete against RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) processors, which had a more advanced instruction set, he said. Apple later adopted RISC."

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127682 10/09, 7:59am, EDT Shut up!
What is it with this guy. All I ever read about him is should of's would of's. No $hit, I have a whole bunch of should of's would's too, moron. Apple should have done a lot of things, but you can't predict the future.

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127683 10/09, 8:03am, EDT whatever.. (*fart)
"...The die was cast. Apple took another path and ended up a different kind of company, Sculley said."

Keyword -->different

On the bright side Apple is starting to learn how to "innovate" by appropriation, just like Microsoft.

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127684 10/09, 8:12am, EDT Monday Morning QB
Sculley presided over the near fall of Apple. His decisions then damn near sunk the company-- like his decision to greedily tack $500 extra on the planned $1995 price of the original Mac for no reason except to raise profits. Someone please tell me why what he thinks has any relevancy at all today, because I don't know.

He should have spent his life selling sugared water to kids.

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127687 10/09, 8:27am, EDT Too early to tell
It was too early to tell then, and it's too early to tell now.

At the time, Motorola really was putting out better chips that Intel. The 68000 was a 16-bit chip, with some 32-bit characteristics; the 68020 was fully 32-bit. At the time, IBM PCs running on Intel chips were 8- or 16-bit. When the PowerPC came out, it, too, was certainly a better chip than the 486 chips that Intel had at the time, and the original Pentiums that followed.

It really wasn't until the G4 that Motorola, and consequentially Apple, fell behind Intel. This prompted all the speculation that Apple would go Intel, and I suspect its also what is prompting Sculley's current statements.

Now that the G5 has arrived, Macs are once again processor competitive with Intel-powered PCs. And next year, the G5 and Mac could very well decisively surpass what Intel has to offer.

There's no way Sculley could have known then what would have happened nearly two decades later with the G4, and there's also no way he can know how the PowerPC vs. Intel situation will play out going forward.

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127688 10/09, 8:44am, EDT SIMPLE
Sculley=Failure
Jobs=Success
nuff said

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127690 10/09, 8:59am, EDT Go Home
When he was with Pepsi, he was selling sugared water to kids.

There were so many problems with Intel, and some still exist, why would anyone say that it was a good idea. Chips catching fire, the die being so huge, as well as chips that couldn't add. Are we so stupid that we don't remember the real history. And RISC is still better than CISC. US Military and Defense are using PowerPC G4/G5 chips like mad to do things like missle guidance. Why didn't they go Intel. You do the math (just not using a chip that can't add)

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127698 10/09, 9:28am, EDT differentiation
Only thing keeping Apple alive is that it isn't Intel, isn't Windows. The differences are what makes Apple relevant.

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127699 10/09, 9:41am, EDT Yeah right...
This from the very a**Hole that gave M$ permission to use the Mac OS GUI in October 1985 (some time then any way).
Didn't even really get major money for it, jerk off.
windoze only has a GUI because of Mac OS and it was sculley who made it happen.

Kinda like the US feeding bin laden against the russians, and look what happened, it created a monster
of bad things.

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127701 10/09, 9:43am, EDT Underestimated Windows 95
Apple never responded effectively to Windows 95. DOS sucked, Windows 3.1 was lame, but Win95 gave the average PeeCee user 80% of the Mac experience.

To make matters worse, Apple was selling uninspired and ugly products like the 610, 6100, 6200, and 8100 series of gray boxes.

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127702 10/09, 9:45am, EDT ha ha
It's funny how Intel chips look more and more RISC all the time.

I think he is going to eat his words in a few short years. With IBM backing the G5, things could get interesting. I wonder if we will ever see a Power4 or Power5 based xServe... Now that would be interesting...

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