WP: Microsoft's Big Role Campus
updated 03:05 pm EDT, Tue August 26, 2003
Noting , The Washington Post reports that the company has "lavished $500 million over the past five years on research and teaching projects at 1,000 schools, funding efforts by 6,000 academics in computer science, electrical engineering, linguistics, biology, mathematics, graphic arts, music and other fields...Microsoft, for its part, acknowledges that its donations are about business development as well as philanthropy, but that it is a win-win situation for everyone."











win win - loss loss
08/26, 03:16pm reply
apple should get back into this s***
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"win-win situation?
08/26, 03:20pm reply
a win-win situation for everyone
I hardly consider the opportunity to be saddled with inferior, proprietary technology that has so many security holes that we have to literally have a staff who does nothing but patch Windows to keep the hundreds of viruses and worms from bringing down our systems a "win-win" situation, no matter how many grants Microsoft doles out.
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Half the story
08/26, 03:26pm reply
The real win for Microsoft is that they require the school to offer MS-specific courses as a clause of the agreement. They recently bought the Computer Engineering course at the University of Waterloo and now there is a mandatory course in C#. I now recommend strongly against that school.
Win-win, my a**!
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re: win-win
08/26, 03:39pm reply
Sure it's a win-win. Microsoft, obviously, gets to insert its claws into another instition and gets to sell more software and services after they've duped the university into taking its "free" computers and software. And the students, they get to prepare for a career of, uh, installing patches and erradicating viruses on corporate computers running Windows. Yeah!
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Ick.
08/26, 03:48pm reply
I suppose that schools being given big chunks of money for their souls is better than just prostratinig themselves in front of the "standard" of Microsoft without any encouragement at all, like some businesses seem to be doing.
Personally, though, I'm finding Microsoft more and more disgusting as a company. I've always had an intense dislike for MS, but now that they've been officially convicted as having used illegal business practices, subjected to light penalties at best, and NOT forced to change any of the criminal business practices (meaning that they're still a criminal organization), I find it difficult to morally justify using any of their products at all.
It may be difficult in today's world to find any large company whose hands are clean, but Microsoft is blatant, thuggish, and PROVEN to be using illegal practices. Why, exactly, would any self-respecting organization give them money? If some guy embezels a huge sum of money, starts a business with it and gives some more away to you, are you going to accept the dirty cash and then pay him for his services later?
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it is win-win
08/26, 03:51pm reply
"I hardly consider the opportunity to be saddled with inferior..."
It's win-win because most schools wouldn't have the money for most of this equipment. The counter is for the schools to ask for more money in school levies and taxes, which most communities will not approve. Sure it's a win for MS, it's a great business tactic.
Maybe if Steve Jobs took some of those "bonuses" and wasn't the highest paid CEO, more schools could be "lavished" by Apple.
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corruption
08/26, 03:53pm reply
This reminds me of a comment my ex-boss once made: "It's been proven that there is nothing a university chancellor won't do for money."
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Heh
08/26, 03:55pm reply
I had a feeling the comments on this one would be entertaining.
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re: Half the story
08/26, 03:59pm reply
They recently bought the Computer Engineering course at the University of Waterloo and now there is a mandatory course in C#.
Noooooooooooooooo.... not Waterloo! A sad day for computer science.
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M$
08/26, 04:10pm reply
Exactly how much does it cost to become a MSFT w****?
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