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08/26/2003, 1:30am, EDT

Tuesday, August 26th

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bash is new default terminal shell in Panther

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One MacNN reader notes that latest (private) developer version of Panther, Apple's next release of Mac OS X, uses bash as the default terminal shell: I will mention here the big shock that many people will face when they open Terminal for the first time in Panther. Apple has apparently switched from tcsh to bash as the default shell for Panther 7B44."

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"That may please Mac users who are already comfortable with bash on their Linux machines, but those of us who have stayed with the default settings in Jaguar will have to unlearn a few tcsh-specific things and become much more familiar with bash."




"In the long-run, it will be good to share this similarity with the Linux world, which is growing at such a fast rate. What I'd like to know, though, is Apple's motivation for this change. It will give a lot of publishing companies an excuse to update all their Mac-specific UNIX books that were already too expensive the first time around."

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122989 08/26, 1:38am, EDT Word.
First post.

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122990 08/26, 1:41am, EDT Yay!
I didn't understand what their facination with tcsh was. I'm no expert, but I've used bash for a while and when writing improptu shell scripts, et cetera, the small differences in syntax was annoying.

So, for me this is a welcome change. Anyone actually know/care what the differences are?

(I've probably just set off a holy war on the magnitude of vi vs. emacs ...)

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122991 08/26, 1:54am, EDT Smart Move
ANYTHING else they can do to limit the differences between OSX and LINUX can do nothing but help Apple in the adoption of their OS and servers, etc.

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122992 08/26, 2:03am, EDT Motivation?
The only 'motivation' is that Wilfredo Sanchez no longer controls it.. tcsh was his shell, he left apple, so the BSD group changed it cause they didn't like tcsh.

Really.

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122993 08/26, 2:07am, EDT Ummm..
They actually switched it about a month back.

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122994 08/26, 2:09am, EDT Old news
It was changed in the WWDC build.

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122995 08/26, 2:51am, EDT Wow, they posted it!!
Bash never came up for me with WWDC, 7B21, 7B28, or 7B39. Maybe I moved my preferences to the newly created Home directory each time before launching Terminal, and that maintained the former default preference for tcsh. I guess I should have recognized the connection between the Sanchez departure and the switch to bash. Do I really want to feed O'Reilly another huge sum of money for updated editions of their already expensive voluminous books just to become familiar with bash?

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122997 08/26, 3:01am, EDT too bad
I'd rather have tcsh. But I doubt tcsh is removed, just not default so those of use who avoid sh type shells for real work can set it up for our logins. FreeBSD and others use tcsh or csh or other non bash non GPLed shells as default as well.

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123000 08/26, 3:20am, EDT Yipee!
This is great news! Now both OSes I use wil have the same default shell.

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123001 08/26, 3:22am, EDT I used bash anyway
I just changed everything to bash anyway... it's simply a better shell... Heck I even have all my users on the BSD (AMD) box using bash.

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