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eWeek: Panther due in September

updated 01:50 pm EDT, Mon August 11, 2003

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eWeek reports that Mac OS X 10.3 "Panther" is still : "While Apple will say only that Mac OS X 10.3 (aka Panther) will ship by year-end, sources said the company is still on track to let the cat of the bag this September...eWEEK first reported the upgrade's delivery date this spring, but when Apple announced Panther at its June Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco, the Mac maker would say only that the release would be 'available by the end of this year.'"

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Um...

After hearing reports of how the recent builds aren't exactly beta yet, I find this hard to believe. If it does ship next month, I def. won't be buying it unless the builds that are surfacing are like 3 months old and Apple has been keeping a real build under tight security.

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Probably

I am sure Apple has Panther under lock and key.

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October 3rd

Wouldn't it make more sense to ship it on October 3rd so they could play off the the whole 10.3 thing like they did last year with opening the Apple Stores at 10:20?

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rowwwwrrr

Just watch. eWeek will be back in September announcing Panther will be ready by the end of the business day and it will come with free panther hats.

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Schwing!!!!!

This is really exciting!

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timetable

I can panther coming out possibly in late september, although I'm thinking it will be more October.

Two reasons, first the back to school crowd... it would be pretty bad (from a P.R. standpoint at least) to release an OS right on the heals of back to school season. I can see alot of customers saying, "I thought I was buying the latest and greatest, and two weeks later theres a new O.S.?" They could remedy this buy grandfathering in those systems if purchased by a specific date. However, this would be lost revenue so I wouldn't anticipate it.

Second, I October ensures that going into the holiday season all computers will be shipping with 10.3. There's going to be a lag in inventory between systems with 10.2 and systems with 10.3. While 10.2 systems will probably be offered a "free upgrade" (they did this with Jaguar last year if the system did not have 10.2), the October timeframe will clean out inventory before the holiday sales season is in full swing.

October is really the only timeframe (from a sales perspective) that I could forsee.

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I doubt it

Having seen current builds I would seriously doubt it's availability in around a month. However, seeing that Apple is making quick work of releasing seeds to developers perhaps there is a slight chance.

I would be very disappointed however is Apple release 10.3 with only the thus far announced and noted features. We wouldn't be getting a great deal of extra functionality; I hope there is something that they have up their sleeve.

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Re: I doubt it

I think Panter's features are great for the average user. If you need something you need to install it. Have you seen Panter running on anything? It feels much faster on old computers, which is something that everyone will like, not to mention the G5 support.

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is it Pink??

i want mac a silly silly pink..

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Re: I doubt it

We wouldn't be getting a great deal of extra functionality; I hope there is something that they have up their sleeve.

Didn't they announce like 100 new features for this release?

And how can they say its still on track to ship in September when Apple announced it would ship by the end of the year?

Oh, and if Apple thinks they're squeezing another $100 out of me this year after just having taken me for $150 to get a barely usable version of OS X, they have another thing coming. I'd rather buy a new PC and save the extra $3000 for other things (like hookers!)

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re: Hookers

The problem with hookers nowadays is that they have the same old features as hookers from 100 years ago. So there is more value in spending $100 on Panther at only $1 per new feature, than to give some hooker a hun for the same old same old.

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Beta

" After hearing reports of how the recent builds aren't exactly beta yet, I find this hard to believe."

I find it hard o believe that anyone who has been testing Panther told ou that the recent builds are not beta.

The build I am running is a month old and it is of very high quality. Granted it is not ready for release, but it is certainly beta. I will be installing a newer build this week and from what I have seen, it is very nearly ready for release.

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They are sure

churning out builds, if one can believe Think Secret. But other then Expose, Pather doesn't look all that impressive. The new Finder is better but still extremely weak compared to what it should be. And the Dock is still the Dock. Two of the biggest weaknesses in OS X, and apple isn't don't anything with them.

Finder lables doth not an upgrade make. I'm sick of apple's one-hit-wonder features. So many things need a complete re-design. Remember how angry we all where when we saw OS X' original GUI? And it's still basically the same.

Don't get me wrong, OS X rocks, and it's certainly one of the best OSes out that, if only for the power it provides to developers. But apple's software design just doesn't impress me anymore. It's all about the one gotta-have-it feature and making everything look pretty then actually thinking about how people use a computer. The marketing department at apple holds way too much sway.

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>>"...The build I am running is a month old and it is of very high quality. Granted it is not ready for release, but it is certainly beta. I will be installing a newer build this week and from what I have seen, it is very nearly ready for release."

You should be banned from the developer community. You have no right to announce that type of subject matter.

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Not yet beta...

Without breaking any NDA, I can tell you eWeek is way off here...

With my former CQF/AppleSeed experience, this is not going to be released before okt/nov... so calm down, crowd...

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re: Beta

"You should be banned from the developer community. You have no right to announce that type of subject matter."

I do not think that the NDA prevents someone from saying that the Beta software is of beta level quality.

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Re: They are sure

Remember how angry we all [were] when we saw OS X'[s] original GUI?

No.

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re Beta

"I do not think that the NDA prevents someone from saying that the Beta software is of beta level quality."

no, but it does offer a potentially false estimation of when the product will be released.

"i say it's beta, alright"= this booger is gonna ship MUCH sooner than we were told = Get your hopes up (and dashed again when it doesn't ship 'til later)

so when it doesn't ship when some bonehead who couldn't keep his mouth shut says it's going to, apple looks bad for missing a deadline... even though they're 100% on track for the one they gave.

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beta tester

as a beta tester, it is nearly finished. You guys will just be in hog heaven when this baby comes out. Not only much much faster than before, but less memory is needed to boot! Minimum RAM requirements are about 75% of what they used to be.

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Hooker + a Pee Sea?

Really, come to your senses!

Think of all the viruses you could get with a hooker + PC combo -- there's like, tens of thousands!

Or just wear a condom every time . . . ahem

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Hooker + a Pee Sea?

I forgot to add:

re: "Or just wear a condom every time . . . "

Always those extra add-on expenses. TC f'n' O . . . TCO!!!

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Panther is shipping now!

I went to Comp Usa today and they had Panther for sale on the shelf for only $99. I bought and installed it tonight. It runs great! I love Expose, and the File Vault is the smartest feature ever. And then I woke up and went on MacNN...

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September, huh?

Looks like my download of 7b28 will be too....zzzzzz....

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Price ?

Though slightly off topic, I wonder why QuickTime Pro sells for 42.35 euros when the US price is $ 29.99. Considering the US dollar is currently worth less than the euro, the price with VAT should be around 36 euros. So why on Earth is Apple charging 42.35 euros ? Apple's market share in the EU is way below that of the US. Apple should do something to be more competitive other here. I'm sick of the MS supremacy.

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re: October 3

I love it... I hope they release on this date.

Then we can look forward to 10.3.1 on Halloween. :)

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re-re-Beta

Yes, ban him...I'm all for banning people. Really, I am!

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