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BuyMusic.com: ITMS TV commercial knockoffs

updated 08:15 am EDT, Thu July 24, 2003

Several readers have noted . Apple is expected to launch a Windows version of iTunes and the ITMS by the end of the year.

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07/24, 08:21am | report spam | close Reply |
Can you say

Cut your nose despite your face.
Or in this case, facelessness.

They lost face here.
I wonder if the "rest of us" will notice it?

Once again, Apple pioneers, someone steals, and the song goes on.

I'm so very happy to be an Apple person right now.

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07/24, 08:23am | report spam | close Reply |
selling personal info!!!

BuyMusic - selling personal info!!!

PC people are suckers. They have no class nor clue. I truely feel sorry for them.

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This only helps...

By using Apple's look and feel, a casual user will look at it and think, "oh, that's that Apple thing..." then, when they see that it's for Windows too, they'll think, "oh, Apple's thing is for Windows now?" They'll then go to Apple.com for more info.

If Apple's on their toes, they will place a note on the iTMS website with a tentative release date for the Windows version. This way, they do not lose focus.

Buy.com are idiots. This is free publicity for Apple.

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07/24, 08:56am | report spam | close Reply |
No comparison

You can tell they were hired actors and it just doesn't flow as smoothly as the Apple commercials. I've seen more convincing fakes by people using their DV Cam at home.

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07/24, 09:21am | report spam | close Reply |
not even bothering

I'm not even going to dignify buy.com by even visiting their site. Before, I didn't mind occassionaly buying a book or cd from them. But if they think people (their customers) are this stupid, it's not worth my time.

Buy.com just lost a customer.

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07/24, 09:29am | report spam | close Reply |
LAME

The commercials are really weak... are they supposed to be funny?

Also I've noticed that other companies are ripping off the switch commercials. Ameritrade has a switch commercial and an actor plays all the switchers. isn't spoofing apple's but is tryign to be funny.

Some e-matchmaking site rips it off too... but doesn't spoof it.

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07/24, 09:30am | report spam | close Reply |
It has begun

I knew as soon as Buymusic.com's shortcomings were known that word would spread quickly. The negative reports and news stories about there inconsistent licensing and pricing are appearing all over the web. It won't be long before we are saying bye to buymusic.com.

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07/24, 09:41am | report spam | close Reply |
Buy buy

I agree with what others have been saying about them ripping off Apple and rubbing their noses in it. I used to always buy things from them but those times are over. The statistics may show that Apple sells a tiny percentage of computers but that doesn't take into account the installed base. I also doesn't take into account how much consumer Macs are used verses PC's. I think they will see a much larger backlash against them than they expect.

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Tommy Lee ripping guitar?

So thats funny? Tommy Lee ripping the www.apple.com/music guitar appart??

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Re: Can you say

Just FYI, the phrase is actually "cut off your nose to spite your face", not "despite your face". It generally means to put yourself at some disadvantage in order to harm an adversary..... I'm not quite sure the phrase would apply here, although it could perhaps could be construed to have some relevance.

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Too bad....

that website defacement contest is over. I've never wanted a website defaced/destroyed as much as buymusic.com.

The owner of buy.com is a f****** wanker who hasn't had a creative/original thought in his entire life. His whole *cough* empire has been built by stealing someone else's idea and undercutting their price. In this case, he's even offering an inferior product (tighter restrictions, etc.). Anyone associated with buy.com should be ashamed of themselves for so blatantly ripping off an incredible idea from concept right down to branding.

I fully expected other companies to come to market with products/services similar to Apple's (what else is new) Music Store. However, in this case, the glaring similarities between the buymusic.com site and the iTunes Music Store almost hints at cut-n-paste html. In addition to that, they have the audacity to run commercials which directly disrespect the company from which they stole their whole f****** business concept!!!! This just infuriates me! I hope they rot in h***, the whole lot of them... including Tommy Lee. I guess he felt slighted that he wasn't asked to participate in the original "Rip.Mix.Burn." spots. Loser. I guess it is a good pairing after all.

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iRiver MP3 player

http://theregister.co.uk/content/54/31943.html

iRiver 10GB iPod clone coming to UK

Japan's iRiver has launched the latest iPod clone, the iHP-100, a 10GB hard drive-based MP3 player.

While the iHP-100 certainly lacks the iPod's styling, it does have some neat touches of its own. Like the latest iPods (but not the 10GB version, it has to be said), the iRiver device ships with a remote control unit, but the iHP-100's version has a full-size backlit track information display screen. The iHP-100 also offers digital optical audio input and output ports, and you can hook up any source to digitise sound directly to the player's hard drive. There's a built-in microphone too. The iRiver also contains an FM stereo radio receiver.
In size, the iHP-100 is a little taller but the same width and fractionally thinner than the 10GB iPod. Both weigh around 160g - rather less than Creative's 20GB Nomad Zen, which comes in at 268g. Like the Apple machine, the iHP-100 offers a large, 160 x 128 backlit information display screen and a five-way navigation control, again better than the Zen's tiny 132x64 window. There's a built-in six-band equaliser; the iPods has a 20-band version.

The iHP-100 connects to a host PC via a USB 2.0 Hi-Speed link. It plays MP3 and Windows Media Audio files. Neatly, you don't need jukebox software to transfer files to the iHP-100 - Windows Explore will do. iRiver claims user get 16 hours of playback from the built-in rechargeable battery; the latest iPods only manage eight hours, while the Nomad Zen can offer 12.

The iHP-100 is currently shipping only in Japan, for �49,800 ($419), but MP3Players.co.uk is offering the device on pre-order for �329.95 and expects to ship in a week or so. As yet the player isn't available in the US, but MP3players.co.uk's .com offshoot hopes to offer it when it is, and presumably iRiver's US operation will do so itself.

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Re: feeling sorry...

Why feel sorry for windoze users and other ignorants? They are lazy in their life by choice. So if the get a dell or use buymusic.com and wind up getting shafted in then end, then its their own damned fault. I don't feel sorry for them, I just say "you should have listened to me." People who use Macs and apple products enjoy their computing experience, people who use pcs don't. It is always a choice and I choose to live well.

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No Press

Isn't interesting how little press coverage buy.com is getting for their launch?

Apple better get on the ball and devote LOTS of resources to releasing the Windows version of iTunes! The "end of the year" may be too late. What is the problem? There's no excuse for Apple's slow action when the potential is so great.

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Bad ads - stupid moves

It's amazing- the Apple Music store ads weren't that good to begin with- even Apple-philes didn't get it- but since Apple did it- others rip it off.
The Switcher ads made sense- the music store ads did little to explain how it all worked and why you should buy a mac.
If Apple was smart- the iCheap - a headless iMac with 1 PCI slot, 2 RAM slots, and a interchangeable video card would ship for $400-$600 and people would switch to Mac- in a heart beat. Giving away the crown jewel- iTunes, to Windoze is a step in the wrong direction.
I could personally switch 10 people to PC if the entry level Mac with a 17" monitor and a CD burner was less than a grand.
Someone in Cupertino is smoking their stock options.

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07/24, 11:11am | report spam | close Reply |
No more buy.com for me

I also used to buy DVDs and gadgets cheap from Buy.com, but they will no longer get any of my business. Speaking with my wallet.

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not the answer

I understand your point regarding iTMS advertising. It could have been more descriptive. However, you blew it with,

"If Apple was smart- the iCheap - a headless iMac with 1 PCI slot, 2 RAM slots, and a interchangeable video card would ship for $400-$600 and people would switch to Mac- in a heart beat. Giving away the crown jewel- iTunes, to Windoze is a step in the wrong direction."

While the eMac may not have the internal expandability you desire, it is a sub-grand machine. It was designed for the low end consumer/educator who does not have as much disposable income to spend on a computer.

I'm not sure how old you are, or if you have ever taken a business class, but simply offering 'cheap' computers does not always promote sales. The reason PC manufacturers can offer a 400-600 dollar computer is because they often use generic, cheap, and unreliable hardware in the first place - and then slap a 'Dell' or 'eMachines' logo on it. Aditionally, these prices are often the result of a 'mail-in' rebate in conjunction with purchasing an internet service (sign up for MSN and get $200 off.)

As for 'giving away' iTunes, that's not the answer. Two years ago, I bought my first Sony Trinitron TV. I always liked Sony, but many of my friends said Sony was overpriced and unreliable. Even still, I loved picture quality and just thought it was cool TV. After having no problems with the TV for a year, I needed to buy a new DVD player to replace a cheap, 80 dollar no-name DVD player I received as a gift. So what did I do? Since I loved my Sony TV, I figured why not buy a Sony DVD player as well. Again, I was not disappointed. The DVD player not only 'matched' my TV, but was just as impressive. In the future, when I plan to buy a theater system, it will again be Sony.

Regardless of what you may think of Sony, I hope you understand my point. Having a good experience with one product often leads to repeat sales and loyal customers. A windows user, who bought an iPod, will get to see how easy and reliable iTunes and iTMS is to use. The hope is that when they decide to purchase a new computer, they'll say "You know, I love my Apple iPod. iTunes is cool too. I should go look at an Apple Computer and learn more."

This is why Apple continues to push hardware and software into the Windows world. Buy increasing their presense in the PC market, Apple not only increases their short term iPod sales to Windows users, but also their potential long term computer sales.

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Only IE Support!!

I am at work where I use Windows, but I still browse with Netscape 7.1. I went to buymusic.com, and received a page saying I'm required to be on Windows and using Internet Explorer to use their site, with a link to download Internet Explorer!

Talk about MS centric! That's unbelievable. I haven't heard of any major sites gearing towards IE on Windows in a long time. However, Safari had opened the page with no issues... (not that it matters except for that one visit!)

Yeah, it's sad. Uninformed consumers once again getting nailed.

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They'll fold in no time

I went to this so-called bargain music site. It infuriated me as well. Everybody loves to trash Apple. I remember when John Dvorak commented on the original iBook. "This looks like a 'Hello Kitty' purse. No self respecting person would by a colored computer." Three months later, everybody in the d*mn industry was building computers with replaceable colored panels. Emachines even copied the iMac so closely that they got sued for it.

Just another attempt to follow the only computer manufacturer that truly innovates and comes up with not only original ideas and designs, but ideas and designs that WORK, and WORK WELL.

These guys will go the way of the Dodo in a quarter. They'll never make it. ;-)

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Can you say.

WTFC.

Cut your nose to spite, cut your nose despite.

They did put themselves at a disadvantage by BITING apple.
(Pun intended).

Oh, go f*** yourself, prick.
That would be relevant here.

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uh-oh

can you hear that, thats the wheels of apple legal turning...

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dude, chill

If you're going to quote something or someone, you should try to get it right in the first place.

If you read his comment again, he's not being a prick. I honestly don't understand your point either.

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Re: Can you say

I agree, chill out. Your opening made no sense to me either, and I'm the 3rd person to say so. The expletives in your retort further show your lack of good communication skills. Reading is fundamental.

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I wonder how long

until the ceast and desist arrives. I bet Steve turned into Hulk-Steve when he saw those commercials.

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What I've noticed..

A few things. For starters, they've set themselves up for failure by not supporting the iPod. You're supporting the lackluster, slower-sales side of the market, even though you know the iPod rules the roost. Of course, if it worked with an iPod, side-by-side comparison of iTMS and Buy's product would just kill them.
You know that Apple will release iTunes for Windows. When they do, everyone will get what the experience is supposed to feel like.
Finally, the iPod is Apple's "Gateway Drug" of choice. Get a taste of the Mac experience, and come see me when you need something stronger..

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Tell you this...

I wish I'd bought one of the Tangerine "kitty purses" when I had the chance...

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re: Tommy Lee ripping...

...I think it's funny...

Funny that Buy could only get the most low-life "musician"/p*** star who's desperate for cash because his Mayhem project is the biggest effing joke since somebody decided to have a Starbucks installed in his house.

Doesn't Tommy play drums?

I guess now, in a day full of mostly crappy mainstream music, we have Tommy Lee, the authority on what is truly cool.

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Guess what?

I went to this so-called bargain music site. It infuriated me as well. Everybody loves to trash Apple. I remember when John Dvorak commented on the original iBook. "This looks like a 'Hello Kitty' purse. No self respecting person would by a colored computer." Three months later, everybody in the d*mn industry was building computers with replaceable colored panels. Emachines even copied the iMac so closely that they got sued for it.
****
The whole damn industry? Hardly. Few copied it and they, along with the color iMacs, all died pretty quickly.

As for Dvorak, he provokes for a living. Not just at Apple, but at PC, at Linux, at Microsoft, blah blah. I love Seeing MacHeads getting all worked up by him because this this just means he is doing his job right (and well).

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goodbye buymusic

dinosores. what a effing rip-off joke this is. iTMS for Windows please arrive soon.

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Bye Bye Buy

I've officially sworn off anything that's just a front for THE GREAT BLUMPKIN. Anything that man has anything to do with will not get even 1 cent of my money. I've known (and had the misfortune of working for) a few of his types in my lifetime so anytime I can do anything to expose and thwart such an a******, I will gladly do so (btw, there's still a real major one at a high level post in a company somewhere in Reno, NV).

And hey Tommy Lee: What do call a guy who hangs out with a bunch of musicians? A drummer!!!

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Drumming.

f*** off. It's harder than guitar, probably as hard as a good bass.

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umm..

That was a dis on Timmy Lee not on drummers in general...
he just upgraded his moron merit badge to dumbass merit badge.

Also buymusic.com is pure suckass, they punked the mac community (anyone tried to sign up - it says yer operating system in not supported! - no support for OSX?? WTF). Pure peanut-plunging a**-hat g** sauce. Makes me want to punch myself in the nuts.

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Byemusic.com

They may as well change the name, since they WILL NOT be here in a year. Or if they are, they will bleeding red ink like Gateway (another "good riddance" card needed -- I wonder if iCards has any?)

Three guaranteed reasons why byemusic.com will fail:

1. PC people NEVER pay for things if they don't have to. Unless Kazaa and Limewire suddenly dried up, there is NO CHANCE that byemusic.com will make money. Even when Apple brings out iTunes for Windows, I doubt they'll do any more than twice-to-three as much biz as iTMS for Mac does (despite being outnumbed at least 10 to 1), because Mac people tend to be more honest and ethical than PC people.

2. VERY confusing restrictions. "Okay, I bought 10 tunes from buymusic.com. Now, which ones can I burn a CD of? How many times? Which ones CAN'T I burn? What if I buy an iPod? Wait, my MP3 player doesn't read WMA! I have to convert these? How? Which ones CAN I convert? How many times? Oops, I want to transfer these WMA files to another computer! What do you mean I can't?"

... and so on.

3. In addition to being a major a******, Blum is also doing a classic bait-and-switch. When potential buyers arrive (snicker), they will discover that MOST of the selections and MOST of the albums are NOT at the promised price point, and again the restrictions thing varies WILDLY from choice to choice. Even PC using dimwits will NOT be amused at being "had."

Blum thinks he'll sell up to 1 million a day?? He's CRAZY as well as being a dickhead. I'll be amazed if he sells a million songs before closing up shop (at a huge loss, by the way). According to his own figures, he'll need to sell AT MINIMUM about 120 million songs (assuming he gets a 1/3rd cut off each track sold, which is probably way too high) before he even BEGINS to see any hope of profit. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

As the Backdoor ... sorry, BackSTREET Boys might say:
Bye, Bye Byemusic.com!

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eMac

"I could personally switch 10 people to PC if the entry level Mac with a 17" monitor and a CD burner was less than a grand."

Then say hello to eMac!

$999.00

17" flat CRT display
1GHz PowerPC G4
128MB SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA drive
CD-RW/DVD Combo drive
FireWire, USB, Ethernet etc

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re : Byemusic.com

"PC people NEVER pay for things if they don't have to. Unless Kazaa and Limewire suddenly dried up, there is NO CHANCE that byemusic.com will make money. Even when Apple brings out iTunes for Windows, I doubt they'll do any more than twice-to-three as much biz as iTMS for Mac does (despite being outnumbed at least 10 to 1), because Mac people tend to be more honest and ethical than PC people."

That is SO stupid.

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Tommy

Tommy Lee should stick to what he does, let's say, best... Make entertaining house video's with ex-wife Pamela Anderson. LOL

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BUYMUSIC.COM not BUY.COM

Its buymusic.com not buy.com get it right

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re: BUYMUSIC.COM not BUY

Its buymusic.com not buy.com get it right

i'm confused... i thought buymusic.com was a subsidiary of buy.com... is it not???

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Re: Tommy Lee ripping...

I think it's funny...Funny that Buy could only get the most low-life "musician"/p*** star who's desperate for cash because his Mayhem project is the biggest effing joke since somebody decided to have a Starbucks installed in his house. Doesn't Tommy play drums? I guess now, in a day full of mostly crappy mainstream music, we have Tommy Lee, the authority on what is truly cool.

Don't forget, Tommy Lee is an iPod user and has mentioned it several times!

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Buy some music

Did anyone notice that there isn't even a Classical category offered on the site? ITMS has a limited one, but it fairly represents the catalogs of its labels, and acknowledges that a music service should be all things to all people, as much as possible.
There's something condescending about buymusic, even cynical...like everything on the dark side.

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Typical ripoff site

This company has no style or imagination. No thanks...I wait 5 more months for Apple's PC version if I have to. The limits on what you can do with their music is lame...and in over 5 minutes of searching I never found a song priced at 79 cents. Unbeliveably lame.

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79�

maybe theyre refering to when you buy an album, say you fit 12-13 songs on an album, that could average out to around 79��per song

either way they are cheap b******* for doing so

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Windows ONLY

http://www.buymusic.com/ierequired.htm

Thank you for visiting BuyMusic.com.

In order to take full advantage of BuyMusic.com's offerings you must be on a Windows Operating System using Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher.

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Which really means ...

... in order to be fully taken advantage of at BuyMusic.com, you must be on a Windows Operating System using Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher.

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buymusic.com =

stupiddumbpeiceofshit.com thatmakesmewanttosockmyselfinthenutts.com

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Now I am going to

Switch back to a PC so I can buy music for 79 cents!

Why didn't they make it 78 cents?
Like the old, old, old, LP's that were not 45's or 33 1/3's?

Oh wait, weren't 78's totally wiped out by the advent of 45's
SINGLES?

Dinasaurs, 78's, MICROSOFT.

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not SAFARI friendly, eh?

Thank you for visiting BuyMusic.com.

In order to take full advantage of BuyMusic.com's offerings you must be on a Windows Operating System using Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher.

Download Internet Explorer Here.

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Just went

to their store and sent them an e-mail using a faux address. Of course they didn't check to see if it was legit. Did anyone read the bios of the officers of that company?

http://www.buymusic.com/toc_feature.aspx?loc=18864

Gag.

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to buy or itune

To buy music at buymusic or use itunes well that's and easy choice which one allows me to port my music to my ipod hmm, which one allows me to preview songs before I buy them hmm,which one offers the same deal on every song i download hmm, which one allows me to use my music on up to 3 computers hmm, which one allows me to share my music with other users without worry if the RIAA will put me in jail hmm? Lets see buymusic songs cost any where from 79 to a buck 29 whoa not for me buymusic song are not portable onto my ipod well damn BUY a ipod and sick to iTunes plus iTunes is coming for PC's to I am in music heaven. Bye bYE buymusic HELLO iTunes!!!! GOD I LOVE THAT COMPUTER MAKE CALL APPLE WHERE WOULD THE INDUSTRY GET IT'S IDEAS WITHOUT IT!!!!

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to buy or itune

To buy music at buymusic or use itunes well that's and easy choice which one allows me to port my music to my ipod hmm, which one allows me to preview songs before I buy them hmm,which one offers the same deal on every song i download hmm, which one allows me to use my music on up to 3 computers hmm, which one allows me to share my music with other users without worry if the RIAA will put me in jail hmm? Lets see buymusic songs cost any where from 79 to a buck 29 whoa not for me buymusic song are not portable onto my ipod well damn BUY a ipod and sick to iTunes plus iTunes is coming for PC's to I am in music heaven. Bye bYE buymusic HELLO iTunes!!!! GOD I LOVE THAT COMPUTER MAKER CALLED APPLE WHERE WOULD THE INDUSTRY GET IT'S IDEAS WITHOUT IT!!!!

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Just like football

Football coaches go over videos showing the opposing teams plays so they can get their own team up to speed on what the other guys are doing. Buymusic.com is similar - they watch all the Apple commercials and keynotes but they go one step further by USING the other teams plays! How lame!

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Just like football?

You are really stretching here.

How about it is more like STEALING ,THIEVERY, IDEAS are copywriteable, not FOOTBALL PLAYS.

They are copying the "Look and Feel" and Apple could use some press by nailing these a******* alla the court system.

Dumbfuck PC users need to see for themselves.
Maybe they could put out a SUPERBOWL commercial making fun of beer swilling pc users.

Couldn't hurt.

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No..Hot

I think Apple is working hard to improve Mac OS X Panther with developers and releasing the new G5.
ITMS would be next which could explain the later in the year release date.
As excited as I am to see iTMS on Windows, I don't see it as an urgency.

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no need to wait

for iTMS for windows, you can have RIGHT NOW on a mac!

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holla back at me girl no matter what any body says keep doin what you doin oh girl i'm you biggest fan can you see if you can hook me up with a concert ticket if you can send it to 4302 santa babara blv apt 12 love ya

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