Buy.com is an online retail outlet at best. They simply do not have the technology that Apple has as a major computer maker. Instead they depend on Microsoft for their DRM'd WiMP audio files.

Apple, if they truly wanted to, can them blow away with all that they have in their arsenal.

And we won't be seeing BuyPods in the future. Apple designs and builds hundreds of thousands of computers and millions of iPods a year... these Buy guys run a web site. LOL.

Didn't the WMA DRM get totally cracked a few weeks ago? How could record companies want to use that? I don't get it.

There undercut the competitor strategy, at least for normal merchandise, ended long ago. I used to buy lots of computer stuff from them, but now they are usually no where near the cheapest. Occasionally they have a cheap item, but usually Amazon.com even beats them, let alone the cheap guys.

Allegedly, it's not all undercutting. The pricing is variable, anywhere from $.79 to $1.49. The heterogeneous nature of the service licensing should help doom buymusic.com to failure, but who knows? The iTunes Music Store needs to come to Windows SOON.

That rocket flame looks naughty to me.

Maybe some form of marketing to teenage males.

Have you seen the BuyMusic.com adverts. Could they *be* any more like Apple's. Honestly, is Apple the only company bothered to do decent, innovative, fresh marketing any more?

The DRM of songs -which differs, song-by-song, sucks. Of course, Windows users don't know any better so this may seem good.

Windows Media Format? *rolls on the floor laughing* Oh, that is beautiful. *wipes tears from eyes*
Nothing like alienating every Windows iPod user.

Hmmm

I see 3 people I would like to run over in a tank... yeah guys, now THATS gonna make me wanna use your service...

nobends. ITMS Forever

This is like those asian knock off perfumes you get from the market for like 2 bucks.

Except: The perfume doesn't smell quite as bad as this does. And at least they have the decency to SAY WHO THEYRE COPYING.

These goons have almost completely copied the layout of the ITMS, albeit tackily, and then try to MOCK apple with 3 obnoxious windows users in a ITMS commercial parody.

If only I had a team of ninja at my disposal.....

So Radiohead can't deal with the iTMS, but they're on this c***?

I love this: $0.99 cents a song, $12.95 for the album (OK Computer), only THREE "transfers" to digital music players (?!), only THREE burns, and you can only ever have in ONE computer.

You've GOT to be joking... It's like they _want_ to kill digital downloads by making them so unappealing. Who couldn't go out right now and buy OK Computer, or any other CD from the '90s or earlier, for less than $10?

Good job, DieMusic.

Is c***. Another blatent case of MS trying to stranglehold a file format by making it a "standard". Regardless, WM sucks horrendously next to AAC or even OGG. (But it keeps MS happy, since it's not cross-platform.)

Why the heck can't these services offer a broad range of file formats and let the USER decided which format to use? If I bought the CD itself, I would be able to rip to any format I want. So I always feel that by buying a song online, I'm s******* myself into a format I might not be able to change later when I need to.

NOT!
besides, what gets me is these services would have NEVER come up with this particular concept,had Apple not thought of it FIRST.

Only occasionally.

Even 50 cent is $0.99.

Just randomly browsing through the songs, I see a lot of songs for $0.99, and almost all albums for $12.95.

what you think. I did.

http://www.buymusic.com/support/email.aspx

Send them an email to let them know what you think of their music store.

read the "license restrictions" area at this site:

http://www.buymusic.com/support/help.aspx#Minimum_Downloading

I don't need to quote anything, just read it and laugh with me at what they're doing.

I know that another poster has already mentioned the ads, but I just watched them and OMFG!!!!!!! You know, by now, I should be used to the PC industry directly copying Apple, but to even go so far as to EXACTLY MIMIC the iTMS ads shows incredible hubris. The audacity of these jackasses! No wonder Steve Jobs is so pissed off all the time. I would be too if I had the greatest products in the world only to have them poorly ripped off and made more popular. Yeesh. Sorry vent over.

Sorry Buttmusic.com, but you look to me like a ploy by the RIAA to try and steal Apple's thunder.

Hey I know. f*** off.

A quote from the above URL about the license:

"Example: You cannot buy your music on your home machine and then transfer your primary license to your work machine. The computer you buy from becomes the primary computer with the primary license for that song."

Well, that's fine, because *no one* would want to do that, right?

It's a typical Windows oriented piece of c***. Not worth further discussion.

Do I need a Macintosh computer?
No. Our music downloads are only compatible with PCs running Windows OS. (See Minimum System Requirements.).

Oh no, we're not riding ITMS' coattails at all!

Apple could release the windows iTunes/ITMS RIGHT NOW and totally and utterly obliterate these gits.

It says it's the largest Music site on the Web, thought iTunes had way more songs than 300,000, oh, I guess because you access though a web browser and not iTunes it's on the Web and iTunes isn't?

iPods are going to drive this entire industry. Last time I checked, didn't the iPod have around a 40% marketshare of mp3 players? (I could be wrong, don't flame me if I am).

What is great about iTMS is how simple it is to use. Through iTunes you can download, play, burn and transfer songs.

With windows, you download, then move the file into a music player that can play WMA, then use Toast or something if you want to burn, then use the your proprietary software that came with your mp3 player to transfer songs? So confused. Or if you get really really really brave, you might use windows media player or real player (if you can figure out how to use the damn things).

Windows users aren't necessarily stupid, they've just had c*** programs for years and think that it is 'normal' for computers to be difficult to work with. iTMS for windows will drive the industry through ease of use and iPod integration.

In the end, the buymusic service will only benefit Apple. Let these users be frustrated on the windows side, then have Apple ride in on a white horse and save the day with great software/service.

Thanks for doing us a favor buy.com.

Uhhh... the buymusic.com site is a *TOTAL* RIPOFF of the iTunes music store -- even the "commercials" are a ripoff. This is just like a Windoze-centric service -- to copy Apple -- and they're not even subtle about it...

It will not last. Windoze media SUCKS!!! So friggin' restrictive and the quality is not any better than AAC.

wow, i used to like Buy.com back in the day...but this is c***. Where are the cheaper songs? The album layout looks like ITMS, the ads look like ITMS, the only thing that's original to them is their crappy codec!

Tommy Lee is smashing the guitar Apple uses on its iTMS website. Now that is just a little over the top! How stupid is Scott Blum? Well, at least I can imagine Tommy doing it to Scott's head!

My opinion on that stuff:

http://blog.joshlewis.org/archives/000023.html

I am the only one who thinks this is going to hurt iTunes for Windows when it comes out?

1. Release a crappy imitation with tons of restrictions.
2. Release commercials that confuse the lay-person as to you are a DIFFERENT production.
3. When ITunes for Windows comes out, people remember HEY I tried something like that before... somethingMusic.com... Was it AppleMusic.com? must be the commericals look the same!

BuyMusic.com's pricing is "as low as"...many song and album prices are higher than the deceptive "$7.95" and "$0.70".

And WTF is up with the proprietary WMA format?

After hopping on a PC and doing a few quick searches for music, I noticed that there are hundreds if not thousands of songs in their system which are "Not Available for Sale"...

They still have a 30-second preview and album info, but you can't buy them.

I wonder how many songs in total there are like this... they seemed to be in every search i did.

Just because you access the site through iTunes, does not mean that it is not on the Web. After all E-Mail is on the web and you don't have to access it through a web browser. Hmm...if it weren't on the web, then I should be able to buy songs while sitting in the middle of the Sahara without needing any kind of network connection....

The site says "from" 79 cents and "from" $7.95 per album. I guess this kind of bait and switch pricing is what PC users are used to.

Blott Scum will make his millions ... at least until Apple sues his a**.

So RCHP is to high and mighty on their "don't sell our stuff by the track. It'll make us look bad" schtick for iTMS. But take a gander at buymusic.c*** and lo and behold you con get many of their songs by track. Two faced scoudrels. Shoulda know when Anthony couldn't even get the name of my city right when they played here. It's CHICO you moron!

Because you guys already said it. I've got an iPod, my girlfriend's got an iPod, two of my friends have iPods. My iPod IS my car stereo system the same way my Powerbook powers my living room speakers.

I think this will do at LEAST as well as DIVX! (The extortionware, not the video codec)

"When Im not beating women and injecting myself with heroine, I use BuyMusic.com, after all, I'm a man of taste and high quality music"

I found this quote below in the FAQs of the Buymusic.com website...ummm am I missing something are there really blank CDs that are "plus" or "minus"?? I thought that only pertained to DVDs....??
_______________________________________

What’s the difference between “plus” and “minus” CD burners and CD media?
Your CD media, or blank disks, must be compatible with your CD burner. There are two types of burners and four types of media.
It doesn’t matter if your burner is internal or external, it is either a “plus” or “minus” burner. CD+ burners burn CD+ disks. CD- burners burn CD- disks. Examples: You can burn your music files onto X Brand CD+R disks using your Y Brand CD+ Burner. Or you can burn your music onto W Brand CD-R disks using your Z Brand CD- Burner.

I got this reply...

You previously sent BuyMusic.com an email. Due to the nature of your
request, we have escalated your email to an expert queue, where it will
be answered as soon as possible by a specialist in the subject you asked
about.

We are committed to respond to your email as soon as possible.

We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,

BuyMusic.com -- "Get Loaded!"
_____________________

Yeah, I BET they escalated that email. I can't wait to get the reply. I'll post it here.

The restrictions are awful ... and most of the opinions on here are exactly what the RIAA wants to hear, "...it's better to just go buy the real CD" Once digital downloading takes off, there will be no need to ever upgrade your library. How many people went from Vinyl, to 8-Track, to cassete, to CD? How many repurchased music you owned on another medium? It's this "library updating" that keeps the recording industry alive. And that just won't happen once people download music in a digital (extremely vertasile) format.

People moving to the digital file medium won't need to repurchase their old music ... they can just "rip" the CD's or get a anolog-to-digital bridge to convert over their Vinyl and cassetes. This equals to zero revenue for the RIAA.

The RIAA has hit a wall and is desperately trying to bring (force) it's consumers to become dependent on physical media. One way to do that is try and make the "best and newest" ligitimate online music downloads seem like they're not really worth it.

So why the iTunes Music Store? Well it uses an unpopular file format (less sharing), is currently only available to the 7 million Macintosh OS X users, and on top of that there are only about 500,000 OS X iPod users out there. In the grand scheme of things, the RIAA is not threatened by such a small demographic.

The funny thing is, this whole mess is making Apple the ideal platform for the digital hub concept. Especially in regards to digital music. ;)

Different licenses for different songs with varying limits for burning versus uniform licensing for all songs with unlimited burns.

It's going to be h*** making your own custom music CD using that service. I'm sticking with Apple, and once Apple releases its PC iTunes, I'm sticking that on my PCs as well.

According to their site minimum price is .79 not .70. They can't even get the proper info in their press release. When iTunes for Windows arrives in several months, say bye, bye to BuyMusic!

I'm even less impressed. "from 79 cents per song" Most of their songs and albums come out to the same price per track, and on average more per album than iTunes.

*shrug*

To busy figuring out how they're going to make a buck, they lose site of how to win and keep customers. The numbers only add up if people actually want to use the service.

If you make the usage rights too complicated or restrictive, it doesn't matter if you have 3,000,000 songs -- very few will buy those songs.

When iTunes for Windows comes out (provided Apple is able to negotiate the same licensing deals they did for the Mac version) that giant sucking sound will be the customers fleeing iMusic for the only online music service that actually respects the customers as well as the music industry.

Nothing in the FAQ addresses the situation when you replace your computer. Unlike the iTunes Music store, it seems there is no way to de-authorize a computer. So, once you replace the computer you originally downloaded the songs with (the "primary computer" in BuyMusic terms), it seems you are completely screwed.

"So, once you replace the computer you originally downloaded the songs with (the "primary computer" in BuyMusic terms), it seems you are completely screwed. "

That's how the WMP DRM works. Sorry.

Why do I need Internet Explorer instead of Netscape or another browser?
Your browser must be Internet Explorer. (See Minimum System Requirements.) If you browse the site with Netscape you cannot purchase and download music. The reason is that your music files are wrapped in DRM encryption, which is unencrypted by the license that you download when you download the music file. The license download requires and Active-X control which is only compatible with Internet Explorer. Without it you cannot download your license and your music stays encrypted and unusable.

The Wired article on this is titles "Lots of music, one big flaw" and compares it unfavorably to iTunes.

One bit of misinformation, even in the Wired article, is to compare Windows overall market share at 97%, and imply they can all use the buymusic service. As of May, slightly less than 60% of Internet users use Windows 98 or above. Only 35% are using XP. Granted, that's still a lot more than OS X, but it's not the hulking monolith portrayed in the media.

Have you seen the commercials? This is unbelievable... they even copied the commercials!

http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/v6/buymusic/commercials/superfreak300k.wmv

http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/v6/buymusic/commercials/rappersdelight300k.wmv

I don't know. I loke the iTMS, only their files won't play in my car's MP3 CD player. WMA's will, but I get the impression buy.com's CD burning policies state "uncompressed format" only.

I'm either holding out hope that compressed AAC will soon be playable on CD or that I can hardwire my iPod into my car.

BTW buy.com sucks: they charge $9.95 to talk to Customer Service, they tax shipping to Cali, and they just all-around suck.

anti-Mac Javascript disallows Mac users from access to much of the site just because it is Mac...no actual reason

I just randomly looked up 10 different albums. And most of the album prices were at $12.95. Most track prices were at $.99. How is this cheaper? Yeah they start at $.79. I haven't found that many yet. There is something to be said about consistency.

How many songs on the iTunes Music Store now? BuyMusic is claiming to be the largest with over 300,000 tracks but I thought Apple was well over 300,000 also

is that this service is somewhat web-accessible. as long as you use -your- computer (and IE, and WMP). which pretty much negates the benefit.

has anyone discovered what type of bitrate quality they are offering? The only bright point may be if songs can be re-ripped to some more useable format.

Here's a third one where they resort to using the poor has been Tommy Lee taking a juvenile jab at Apple's iTunes:

http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/v6/buymusic/commercials/tommylee300k.wmv

They don't let you see their site on Mozilla or Netscape for Windows.

Is it me, or does this seem like the work of a Micro$oft shill?

Poor Bill. He's so afraid that everyone will buy a Mac once they see how easy iTunes for Windows is.

Not that I'm one to judge, but the last person I'd want promoting my product is Tommy Lee.

Let's see... made a porno, kind of cool.

Beat his wife. Beat his kid. Can't beat alcohol or drugs.

Yep, you're cool Tommy.

No if they had Seal promo'ing their product, it would rock. Haha

Their service doesn't work with Macs. It uses Win Media Player 9. Not all songs are $.79. You can't get all the songs on an album.

Look for Judas Priest's Hits. $.99 per song, not all songs available, no Mac support, Windows only.

They can keep it.

Does anyone really think that this is going to be anywhere near iTunes music store? i mean really.....iTunes music store is still in its infancy...PC people will just hang out and wait for apple to make their next move and copy that too.

Don't panic...PC market has been trying to catch up with the mac for decades and all they can do is copy it.

Can we get some PC developers that think on their own? Own concepts, own ideas, own marketing campaigns?

I feel more than privileged to be part of the apple community that leads every innovation. At least we see technologies first and then all the millions of pc developers are busy copying what apple does, while apple is busy innovating something new for the pc market to copy.

Go Apple!!! Keep innovating and keep the pc people wondering what the h*** is next instead of innovating for themselves.

Apple is going to take over and all the pc users are going to slap themselves for wasting all those dollars and junk computers.

:-)

Apple promises iTunes Music store for Windows users at the end of this year. While commendable they cannot (no-one can) predict all the kinks and drawbacks such an endeavour entails. With BuyMusic and others bringing the service out first, Apple can sit back, take notes and refine the service like only Apple can. Apple can/will build on the erorrs these guys will make and then mop the market floor with the superior product they'll surely put out.

Frank

First: BuyMusic's mix of different restrictions for songs will kill the service quickly. Why should I not be able to buy the song once, and burn it on as many different play lists as I want? I often choose the combo of songs I am in the mood for on a particular day and burn those songs I want to listen to at that moment.
Second: If I can't find a song at the iTunes Music Store, I download it from Limewire. Artists need to realize that they MUST offer a way for people to get their music online digitally. The future of music is free downloads, with artists only making money from Live Shows.

I'm noticing the similiarities of the Buymusic.com service verses the attempt Gateway made against the iMac awhile back. Remember that?

It failed for Gateway. Seriously, some publications gave Gateway credit for trying, but eventually the product faided away. Why? Because it was not innovative, easy to use, heck even pretty. "It boots up faster" as one reviewer said. Yeah, it needs to because it crashes so often.

Meanwhile, the iMac has gone on to be a huge seller for Apple. It's quite possibly one of the best "switcher" computers Apple has made. It's won award after award, etc;. Credical praise, yada yada...

And now buy.com is trying to go head-to-head with the big dog again. We know this won't fly.

I think apple has an edge in the fact that their store is integrated into the itunes application.

buy.com is just another web portal. Not as much of a desktop presence as the itunes app.

But apple should really get itunes on windows going or they are going to loose an opportunity. But its likely they are not going to win on windows anyways...but thats when the ipod platform can really throw its weight in and make itunes more relevant.

a slashdot poster said 128 kps wma.

If artists only make money from live shows, there won't be any music to download except from established artists who can pull off mega-tours. New artists only perform live at small gigs, and need a day job to survive. So on top of that, you would expect them to fund their own records?

The only artists that would survive would the ones that giant corporations would invest in hoping to make money from mega-tours. That's a pretty sad future.

Did you check out the commercials on the site?
Look familiar?!?

I think Apple should first be honored that the "Windows World" thinks highly enough of them to copy their commercials.... THEN SUE THEIR a**!

Here's my reply from buymusic.com. Be sure to read my heartfelt critique of their new service.


Thank you for writing to us. We are responding regarding your recent
email.

We apologize for any problems you have encountered with BuyMusic.com.
We appreciate your comments and suggestions and will use them to help
improve our products and services when making future decisions. Thanks
again for your feedback.

Again we apologize for any inconvenience.

We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,

Team buy.com
www.buy.com

Original Message Follows:
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Order Number:
Good luck with your S***** service. Nice to see you could come up with
your own type of commercial, rather than ripping off another company.
That's really classy.
Never again will I buy something from buy.com. Oh yeah, and quit
sending me your S***** magazines, and good luck with the home shopping
channel.
Please send this to Scott Blum.
Regards,
A former customer
.

You said it 'First'!!! PC's have never been 'first' in anything except copying whatever else has been done, especially from Apple. As for your 'Worst' comment, it's obvious you have no idea what you're speaking about. Like most PC users, you are so blinded by M$ you can't even see there is much better products out there than those produced by Gates and his minions. Wake up, man!!!

Of the 8 songs listed on their splash page under "TOP 100 DOWNLOADS," 6 of them cost 99 cents; 2 of them cost 89 cents and only one, from Tommy Lee (!) was 79 cents. The "from 79 cents" is misleading, as the news wires are neglecting to print the "from." At least with ITMS, you know exactly what your downloads will cost. Pathetic.

Reads more like a typical juvenile knee-jerk reaction from a Mac-mac who blindly revomits what's already been said instead of writing them something really constructive and original. Their answer to you btw nicely illustrates that they couldn't give a rat's a** about letters such as yours and reinforces their view (albeit a false one)that we Mac users rage at anything that dares copy what Apple puts out.

Here's my reply from buymusic.com. Be sure to read my heartfelt critique of their new service.


Thank you for writing to us. We are responding regarding your recent
email.

We apologize for any problems you have encountered with BuyMusic.com.
We appreciate your comments and suggestions and will use them to help
improve our products and services when making future decisions. Thanks
again for your feedback.

Again we apologize for any inconvenience.

We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,

Team buy.com
www.buy.com

Original Message Follows:
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Order Number:
Good luck with your S***** service. Nice to see you could come up with
your own type of commercial, rather than ripping off another company.
That's really classy.
Never again will I buy something from buy.com. Oh yeah, and quit
sending me your S***** magazines, and good luck with the home shopping
channel.
Please send this to Scott Blum.
Regards,
A former customer
.

You are just a Mac-using a******, no better than a PC-using a******.

in the "top album downloads" section of the buymusic.com homepage, 2 of the 4 albums are not for sale as albums (and one song is missing from each if you decide to buy each track individually).

that's pretty funny to me.

" I don't know. I loke the iTMS, only their files won't play in my car's MP3 CD player. WMA's will, but I get the impression buy.com's CD burning policies state "uncompressed format" only.

I'm either holding out hope that compressed AAC will soon be playable on CD or that I can hardwire my iPod into my car.

BTW buy.com sucks: they charge $9.95 to talk to Customer Service, they tax shipping to Cali, and they just all-around suck."

Geez man, just burn those AAC files to a cd as an AUDIO cd and not as a DATA cd, in itunes, and they will play JUST FINE in your car's cd player.

The part I found amusing on theior support page was:

"Each record label has control over these license restrictions including the number of times you may:

. transfer your songs to another computer(s)
. transfer your songs to an approved portable digital media player.
. burn your songs to CD
BuyMusic.com complies with each record label and adjusts the SDMI license on each of your music downloads accordingly."

You're b.s.'ing me right! The record labels are dictating the rights you have for each and every song! Anyone even contemplating using this service ought to have their head examined!

Like most PC users, you are so blinded by M$ you can't even see there is much better products out there than those produced by Gates and his minions. Wake up, man!!!
***
Like most Mac users, you are so blinded by Apple you can't even see there is much better products out there than those produced by Jobs and his minions. Wake up, man!!!

---------------
Now, I believe iTunes, OS X, iPod, etc are all superior to their PC counterparts so my point is not to argue that the PC version is better. But, this just points out the stupidity of making a zealot-like, emotional knee-jerk reactions comments that don't go anywhere.

They don't let you see their site on Mozilla or Netscape for Windows.

Is it me, or does this seem like the work of a Micro$oft shill?

Poor Bill. He's so afraid that everyone will buy a Mac once they see how easy iTunes for Windows is.
***

iTunes don't let you see iTunes store with any browser or any PC software.

Is it me, or does iTunes seem like the work of a Apple shill?

Poor Steve. He's so afraid that everyone will stop using a Mac if they cannot find ways of keeping people abandoning the platform.

- I hate Mac zealots. (I hate PC zealots and Linux zealots too.)


But yes, I hate not being able to see it with Moz too.

Their service doesn't work with Macs. It uses Win Media Player 9. Not all songs are $.79. You can't get all the songs on an album.

Look for Judas Priest's Hits. $.99 per song, not all songs available, no Mac support, Windows only.

They can keep it.
***
iTunes service doesn't work with PCs (yet). It uses iTunes. All songs are $.99. You can't get all the songs on an album.

Look for Judas Priest's Hits. $.99 per song, not all songs available, no Windows support, Mac only.

Your argument sucks. NEXT!

wow, what a big suprise...not Safari compatible.
thank Steve i'm microSLOTH free.

wow, what a big suprise...not Safari compatible.
thank Steve i'm microSLOTH free.

You're b.s.'ing me right! The record labels are dictating the rights you have for each and every song! Anyone even contemplating using this service ought to have their head examined!
****
f***, don't like it, don't buy it. The record label has everyright to dictate what they do with their s***. You, on the other hands, do not have 'rights' in this matter so stop your grandstanding. If other people chooses to do what they like, let them.

This site has major flaws... I'll focus on the searching...

Where is my power search?

My song name has "or" in it. Why does the search engine think I'm typing some sort of boolean logic code?

Closest matches to "Story of a Squirrel" aren't even close to any of those words.

Search X by Song... ???... That might make sense if it was laid out as Search by Song for X. But in its position it should read more like Search X in Song Title.

"Like most Mac users, you are so blinded by Apple you can't even see there is much better products out there than those produced by Jobs and his minions. Wake up, man!!!"

Help me wake up: in the realm of digital music and computing, name a couple.

As someone pointed out on Slashdot ...

Hmm, let's see, here's a "best of" Judas Priest album. I can do a one-time download of a crippled non-CD-quality set of copy protected files that only work on a subset of machines for $12.69. Or, on the buy.com music page, I can buy the same album, at a higher quality, on physical media, in a universal format with no copy protection, including inserts with pictures, lyrics, etc., for $10.98. Gee, that's a tough choice...

From what I could read and glean from the BuyMusic site, I would suggest that people think very carefully about just how much they spend buying such limited rights music.

If you are thinking about upgrading or replacing a computer (or perhaps even having to re-install your Windows software because of some problem, all the music you've "bought" craps out entirely. There is no way to transfer the rights to another computer.

Apple's ITMS limits of 3 authorised computers doesn't look too shabby to me at all... it is a simple matter to de-authorise abd re-authorise another Mac.

If it's got a label from Mr. Bill... Bills are all you'll ever pay.

Help me wake up: in the realm of digital music and computing, name a couple.

Not that I like it or will use it but: *shipping* 64-bit CPU with 64-bit OS and 64-bit apps for one. 3+ ghz hyperthreading CPUs. etc.

... but nothing named.

Apple will come out with something after someone else does, makes it popular, then someone else comes out with something that costs less and everyone uses it instead.

Apply that to everything Apple makes.

BAAAA! *click* BAAAA! *click* BAAAA! *click* BAAAA! *click*

BAAAA! ctrl-alt-del

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Dr. Grant: "They're hearding. They DO run in heards."

Off to the iTunes Music Store to purchase some tunes. ;-)

Is it just me or do I recall an episode of MTV Cribs where "Rocker" Tommy Lee gushes about his love of his iPod and how he has them all over the house and his then wife "Actress" Pam Anderson also used one also. They must be paying him well....he must know what c*** he is selling.

Also, for a laugh check out the instructional videos (not the Ads) on the front page of buymusic.com.....It's truly illustrates just how refined the entire iTMS really is....Steve should show these at the iTMS for windows launch.

btw...bought the new Gavin Degraw and the new Ben Folds album today in support of iTMS. Two great CD's that were released today. I love it!

... are now herewith named and in perpetuity shall forever be referred to as what they are: BLUMPKINS !!!

I fist heard the word "blumpkin" on Howard Stern. By associating the term with Scott Blum, I think Howard will find it offensive.

buymusic.com don't just did a poor copy of iTune Music store. They also copy made a poor copy for the iTune Music store TV ad. I was copy down to the concept and editing.

I like YES. Only one YES album I could find at buymusic.com . 90125 for $8.95. iTMS has a lot if YES albums (but not 90125). Other similar stories for other things I looked for on buymusic.com.

Every song I've come across is .99 - Lyin' sacks.

This might have already been posted. Don't flame if it has. I don't get it. Tommy Lee is their spokesman. Yet his songs are the same price on iTMS as BM.com. And they will only sell 12 of 13 tracks on BM.com (Amazon and Apple only list 12 songs) So BM.com is telling people that the 13th song (dupe of track #2) is not available so they must buy their spokemans music 1 song at a time for 11.99 for the cd (vs 9.99 at iTMS). All this not to mention iTMS has Motley Crue collection none available at BM.com. Support Apple... buy at iTMS.

Blum is a nutty a** wipe who makes money for doing nothing innovative, but rather profits by dampening the efforts of the true innovators, the ones who really care about the consumer experience. ByeMusic.com! iTMS rules! PC's are for gamers, not music afficionados!

Those ads are quite frankly shocking. I would think Apple might have grounds for legal action. True, the whole "white background" style ad that Apple pioneered with the switcher campaign has been borrowed by many companies, but um...people against a which background singing to their portable music players as an ad for a digital music service? How is this in any way different from Apple's ads? And don't get me started on the "for the rest of us" tagline!

I dug around for quite a while and couldn't find a song for less than .99¢, so how can all the headlines say their cheaer than iTunes?

Windows is terrible and everyone knows it. Even seasoned windows users agree. Apple should not port iTunes to windows which should help PC users to decide to switch to Mac. Remember, there are 3 types of personallities that make up a windows user:

1. The computer geek that dissasembles and reassembles anything and everything and would never buy an all-in-one washer/dryer.

2. A Ford SUV owner who thinks he's better than everybody but has to have what is popular at any point in time.

3. Computer newbies like senior citizens who just want to see digital pictures from their grand kids out of state but when purchasing a computer, was steered away from a Mac by some a****** sales person (like example 1 & 2) because "there are more games for the pc."

I hate Windows and PC users. Thats all!

-male PC users on average have fewer testicles than Mac users

-the average male PC user measures only 3 1/4" at full attention

-the collective wealth of creativity and innovation in the PC industry is less than that that of a typical kindergarten class.

-100% of PC users have an incurable "Me too" mentality, and suffer from hypo-individuality.

-Mac users, while often eccentric and quick to pass judgement on other platform users, have well documented higher IQ's than their PC counterparts. The sum of all mac user IQs far exceeds the sum of PC user IQs despite the difference in number of users.

-PC users would eat a dog-meat burger from a restaurant called McDogalds if it cost a few pennies less than than McDonalds and everyone else was eating the dog-burgers.

STICK YOUR WMA FILES UP YOUR a**!

when people use the word "proprietary" its really annoying. first of all, EVERYTHING can be considered proprietary in the computer world if it only ran with a certain set of conditions. osx is proprietary to apple computers only, and WHO CARES if something is propietary if its the best. that just means eveyone eslse is missing out. you can always weed out the idiots that bash mac/pc becuas ethey say stupid irrelevant s*** like "i odnt wnat to use macs because they are "the P word." or idiotic statements that make no sense, but make themselves feel better about their purchase. Granted, there are A LOT of good arguements as to why one is beytter than the other, but apple is SO far ahead of things, that the only thing companies can do is to copy. how many OTHER companies actually make anything? M$ does make things a swell, but its nowhere near as good as apples, (DRM, SPYWARE, and a bunch of other stuff that keeps me away) now back to the point, buy's web site is JUNK when put in perspective with regard to the ITMS. but itunes is proprietary to osx as well, for now at least. this site opens a whole new arena to non mac users. even though , IMHO, it is junk, its good enough to stay around for a while until itunes comes to Bill's house, punches his face in, goes to the BM.com creatoprs house, rams his a** off his chair, then uploads itself to the web to be on windows, and completely erradicates any web based c*** that may be scurrying around like terminix does to roaches. in otherowrds, just let people get familiar with the junk interface of this site, then when itunes comes to windows, they will become aquainted with how its SUPPOSED to be, and itunes will stomp out everything out there.

iTunas will not be punching anybody in the face. It will, however, wipe its stinky a** all over blum's face. But most windohs users will probably only try iTunes if BuyBlum.com never supports the iPod.

Wednesday I was able to look over the BuyMusic.com website using Safari and Mozilla; now today whichever page I try to look at, I get redirected to a page telling me that I have to use Internet Explorer. Apparently they have added some more Javascript to add further pro-Microsoft bias to every single page. What is the point of that?

they don't want your money.. (because their dumb asses) so dont give it to them

to buymusic.com

Went to customer support and typed in a few choice words for them.

They don't even check your e-mail for legitimacy.
Dumbfucks.

...copy buymusic.com's ad gimmic by offering ONE SONG at ONE CENT and advertise the h*** out of it: "Songs for the rest of us starting at 1 cent".

By the way, s****** Blum must troll the Apple website profusely because he stole Apple's "For the rest of us" phrase from the iChat AV keynote presentation! What a total loser!

The guy probably has tons of kiddie p*** at his OC mansion, I hope he gets caught real soon!

let's talk about something that ISN'T A COMPLETE WASTE OF OUR f****** TIME, RIGHT!

NEW NEWS HEADLINE
-Windows GEEK COMPANY COPIES Apple's iTune's Music Store! BFD-

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