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06/25/2003, 8:45pm, EDT

Wednesday, June 25th

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Apple limits 3rd party dev tool vendor access

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A MacNN reader says that Apple is not offering 3rd party-tool vendors the same access to developers as in previous WWDC conferences: "Apple's friendliness to 3rd party tools vendors seems to have ended this year. You may recall at previous WWDC's, Metrowerks and other vendors (like Realbasic and Borland) were allowed to show their recent releases of tools, but Apple has decided it no longer wants to share the stage with other compiler makers." Apple introduced its new Xcode developer tools earlier this week and says it will ship the tools in September.

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"This includes ending the special lunchtime sessions (where many a developer ran off with T-shirts) and the popular 'Birds of a Feather' evening sessions that was running for the past two years. They are relegated to the vendor booths, which ends Wednesday at 6:00PM."



"In talking with the folks at the Metrowerks (who were surprised at this sudden turn of events), they told me that they were not even allowed to be on stage at any session this year, as Apple has felt that their Project Builder app had constantly been shown up by CodeWarrior. This will be the first WWDC since 1995 in which Metrowerks has had no stage presence to announce their products."



"The folks at RealBasic seem to be taking it in stride, although still dissappointed at not being able to talk directly to the developers as they had in the past three years."

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117265 06/25, 9:17pm, EDT Wow
XCode looks cool, as does the currnet Developer Tools package, but Realbasic is also cool. 2 different tools, both with advantages. These vendors have got feel a little nudged out. Realbasic just introduced it's tools to Windows users, I hope they don't stop their Mac development.

-GB

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117269 06/25, 9:44pm, EDT can always go outside
These vendors can always sponsor something outside at a different hotel or something. Like people at Comdex and such shows do with special suites at hotels...

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117271 06/25, 9:54pm, EDT He giveth, he taketh away
As long as they don't start acting like Microsoft.....

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117273 06/25, 9:57pm, EDT Apple..
Apple and steve seem to be getting a bit too controlling. Back off a bit guys.

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117277 06/25, 10:24pm, EDT Apple
They're human and subject to error in judgment just like everyone else. Let your voice be heard, email Apple with your concerns.

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117293 06/26, 1:27am, EDT Hurting Allies
Apple needs to encourage ANYONE who promotes code development on Macs.

So what if CodeWarrior shows up Project Builder? Project builder is free after all, though really good for a free development environ. If CodeWarrior is better, let developers buy it who will benefit and produce better or less expensive code.

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117294 06/26, 1:30am, EDT in all honesty...
if people want to see codewarrior and realbasic, all they have to do is go to their booth. it's not that hard. of course, I find the pinball machines more entertaining than anything realbasic could show me. this IS an apple show, if you didn't know. (I'm there right now, and the G5 is droolingly fast)

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117304 06/26, 3:10am, EDT what everyone forgot is
that Metrowerks is part of Motorola.

Maybe, just maybe, this WWDC is supposed to be the Apple & IBM wedding/honeymoon.

You don't invite your ex girlfriend to your wedding.

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117314 06/26, 8:56am, EDT Bad, bad move
Go read Mike Pinkerton's blog (he's the lead dev on Camino) titled "XCode is Crap." At WWDC, he attempts to use XCode, only to see is constantly, constantly crash. Codewarrior doesn't.

It's microApplesloth!

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117331 06/26, 10:45am, EDT Not that suprising
It's disappointing that Metrowerks wasn't invited to present a "Metrowerks Update" session as they have in past.

As for the keynote, it was 2 hours in length already. It wouldn't make sense to have Metrowerks take more time to talk about the advancements in CW 9, which aren't that big anyhow.

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