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06/13/2003, 1:00pm, EDT

Friday, June 13th

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MacUser UK: no more IE developement from MS

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Roz Ho, the general manager of Microsoft's Mac Business Unit, has confirmed that no future versions of Internet Explorer will be released for the Mac, according to PC Pro: "Ho says that the decision has been made to make way for Apple's own Safari browser. 'Some of the key customer requests for web browsing on the Mac require close development between the browser and the OS, something to which only Apple has access,' she explained. 'As part of the OS (operating system), IE will continue to evolve, but there will be no future standalone installations. IE6 SP1 [for Windows] is the final standalone installation,' Microsoft's Brian Countryman said in a recent interview."

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115577 06/13, 1:05pm, EDT Wooohooo!
Stick a fork in it, it's done!

Good riddance.

From a development standpoint, this is good news. It's becoming easier to delineate between browsers based on the OS the client is running.

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115578 06/13, 1:05pm, EDT hmmm
"Ho says that the decision has been made to make way for Apple's own Safari browser. 'Some of the key customer requests for web browsing on the Mac require close development between the browser and the OS, something to which only Apple has access,"

That sounds familiar...

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115579 06/13, 1:10pm, EDT bye
good riddance indeed.

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115580 06/13, 1:13pm, EDT Lies, lies, lies
And more lies. Although I won't lament the passing of this piece of garbage, it's clear that they're taking this opportunity to bang in a few nails in the coffin of the monopoly suit. There are so many areas in which their crappy browser could have been improved, beginning with performance, without requiring insider OS information.

One way Apple could screw them royally would be to make Safari open source. Fat chance of that...

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115581 06/13, 1:16pm, EDT TTFN
H&G (Hi and Goodbye) from sleepless in redmond, ...uh Seatle

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115582 06/13, 1:17pm, EDT It *IS* Open Source!
Get a clue - Safari is based on the KHTML rendering engine, which *IS* open source, and they are returning all enhancements they make back to to the Konqueror project.

So, anyone else could use the same core, and develop it from there. In fact, even Microsoft could grab it, and get a great browser in return -- why dobn't they? "not-invented-here" syndrome.

Cognitive dissonance at its very best.

Agreed with everyone, though -- good riddance to a pretty crappy and badly coded product. Overall, between Camino and Safari, there was no space left for IE anyway.

-Harry

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115583 06/13, 1:18pm, EDT Interesting
You wonder how long Apple has known this. Did Safari make them can IE or did Safai come about because Apple knew (or suspected) this would be the case?

Either way, IE does have some nice features that I miss in Safari (auto complete--not autofill, keyboard navigation in forms, better download manager, pixel dimensions of images opened in a new window, etc.). Hopefully, Apple can/will fold those features into Safari soon. It would have been interesting to see M$ use Web Core like OmniWeb has.

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115584 06/13, 1:20pm, EDT this is a terrible news..
as a web designer, i'm in trouble. i use ie for my web development. safari look great on a mac, but i had a few bad surprises when i looked at the site on ie after.

so i imagine that if there is no version on the mac, my boss will have to get me a pc next time, and that is a good decision since everybody looking at our site use ie for windows and i can't check on my mac. and slow emulation is not an answer.

nope, this is not a good news at all

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115586 06/13, 1:25pm, EDT Terrible? Huh?
You'll have the same final version of IE as your clients do. They're not outlawing it - only freezing it.

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115587 06/13, 1:25pm, EDT agreed...bad news
You can't forget that too many developers develop exclusively for IE, and let's face it those sites just plain don't work on Safari or Camino right now. You know the kinds of sites I'm talking about, where you have to fire up IE just to use some Web application, or make an online purchase... the list goes on and on.

I use Safari 99% of the time, but there are still sites out there that break under Safari. This is bad news.

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