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Quark 6 ships next week, upgrades in 90 days

updated 07:55 am EDT, Fri June 13, 2003

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Several MacNN readers wrote to clarify the Quark Xpress 6 shipping date confusion: "I also ordered the Quark 5 upgrade this week with a free upgrade to Quark 6 when release. The person at Quark who took my order told me that I was guaranteed to receive version 6 within 90 days of its release, but that Quark Xpress 6 [new orders] would indeed start to ship next week."

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06/13, 11:12am | report spam | close Reply |
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so what now? do we get that piece of c*** next week or not? i guess they're still not sure yet. maybe 6.0 is so buggy that they'd rather wait for another 90 days or womething like that...

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06/13, 11:43am | report spam | close Reply |
90 DAYS!!!?!?!

Way to stick it to your existing customers, Quark! You customer service continues to astonish! Thanks!

Haven't heard an upgrade price yet, but, if they want a grand for a full version, I'll guess it is more than a new copy of InDesign.

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06/13, 11:57am | report spam | close Reply |
typical

And people line up to give them their money...

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06/13, 12:07pm | report spam | close Reply |
whatever.

Buy 5.0 and get $100 off 6.0! What a joke. I will continue to go out of my way to find or convert printers to use Indesign(It's not that hard to do). It's about principle. Quark craps on it's customers.

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06/13, 12:19pm | report spam | close Reply |
Quark

Um, Quark has had a "upgrade to 5.0, get 6.0 for free" promotion running for months. So perhaps stop whining?

You also might want to consider that some people prefer XPress over InDesign, in the same way some prefer Freehand over Illustrator.

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06/13, 12:34pm | report spam | close Reply |
It's not whining...

Um, I believe I expressed a PREFERENCE to Indesign in my post. My feeling is that some feel they have no choice when it comes to page-layout software and believe they are FORCED to buy 6.0.

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06/13, 12:40pm | report spam | close Reply |
$100 off??

They offered me, as a corporate customer, a free upgrade to 6.0 if we decided to buy 5.0 even 10 months ago!
So if I had bought 150 licenses back in August 2002... I would then automatically receive version 6.0 sometime this year.

Too bad they didn't offer this to everyone!

And, no, we didn't get 5.0 anyway.

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06/13, 12:42pm | report spam | close Reply |
No firm date

The controversy over release date is far from over. Some have receive note from Quark of late month release for their upgrades, Apple pulled from their site's homepage the tag that said full version "available next week" and emails sent from Apple through their eNews now says that "Quark 6 intends to ship at the end of the month". While Quark has mixed official versions also, it seems nobody knows for sure. All this is another sign of the bad organization they have suffering from for many years... and a hint of what to expect!

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06/13, 12:47pm | report spam | close Reply |
Easy to switch, Ha!

"I will continue to go out of my way to find or convert printers to use Indesign(It's not that hard to do)."

Yeah, most of the printers I deal with are reeeaaalll easy to convert their process and production routines. Of course, they have nothing better to do then switch and change whatever for the sole purposes of one client. I mean, come on buddy, if you had any real experience in Professional design instead of just designing your family newsletter for printing out at Kinko's, you may understand that there is a lot more involved to change.

The best and most reliable printers that I deal with have perfected their press production routines over many years. InDesign is still very new to the scene and that's why it hasn't caught on. Remember, nobody was using v.1 religously like Quark. v.2 is much better and InDesign is obviously gaining steam, and Adobe has done a good job promoting pdf for printing. But that's just it, solid pdf workflows and productions are still 1-2 years off for most printers. It will happen, and maybe Indesign will become THE choice for designers and printers alike, but for now, Quark 6 will nicely fill the gap.

I am getting tired of all the people coming here and bashing what they don't understand. Go out and buy a PC so you can really fit in with the rest.

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Easy switch, Ha!

A production artist is not a "professional designer".

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What?

What's your point? Of course a production artist is not a professional designer. Duh. A prepress person doesn't design anything, except fix what is given to them to work with his company's press. Its a real good idea to give a job to a printer that needs to be reworked and reformatted because the designer is too naive to know better. The added cost and time are always good things!

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Designers don't know shi

about anything except designing. A good prepress production pro is worth his/her weight in gold because they can fix the designer's vision, no matter how twisted.

What's that? You want to have 15,000 points on that path? No problem, loser. Give it here, prepress production will fix it. What's that? You're going to include your entire font library when you upload the job because you're too f****** lazy to collect the 5 fonts used? Oh, and you're not going to include printer fonts for the 5 you used? No problem, loser. Give it here, prepress production will fix it.

In reality. all designer's should be giving all prepress people blowjobs daily, because without them, the designer is just another out of work shmuck.

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Somebody needs to...

Chill. Man, take a vacation or something. I feel your pain though, I put myself through design school as a prepress artist. Did you know some designers actually use Corel to do their work with? Ha. Good times... I think it is a good experience for a gd to work a while as a prepress tech, helps you understand the process and hows and whys. Also allows you to focus on the technical stuff without having to think too creatively, so you can more easily learn the software and tools.

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Get it right

Quark offered the "buy v5.0, get 6.0 for free" deal to everyone, it was posted on their site, they were sending direct mail about it and if you called they'd tell you. One of my client's took up this offer a couple of weeks ago for ten licences.

Additionally, no one's going to force people to buy 6.0 (FWIW this won't help spread the use of X or sell more Macs either), plenty of people are still using 3.x and 4.x XPress - Quark still sells v3-4 upgrades!

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Mac Design

The new issue of Mac Design has an interesting article about Quark vs. Indesign....

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Its about time...

...Quark had some serious competition. But the end result will be that prepress operations will have to support both InDesign and Quark. Adobe and Quark are heading in different directions here and by the end of the year there will be no obvious winner.Think InDesign will be able to open a Quark 6 file? Think again. Better get used to PDF.

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Quark never changes

The most amazing thing about Quark is not that it spits on its customers but that its customers allow it to. $1,000 for Quark 6? 3 months until upgrades?

Quark: "Let's see how many existing customers will pony up the $1,000 just to have Quark 6 now, and then will hit the rest for an exhorbitant upgrade fee."

I used Quark for years in a production environment (magazine publishing), but last year I got fed up and switched to InDesign. I've never been happier.

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Quark & Charitable Orgs.

I work for a nonprofit organization. I called up to find out the nonprofit price for Xpress 6.0.

After getting bounced around to about 5 different operators, I finally got a straight answer:

- They don't have a nonprofit price yet (5.0 is about half price for charitable organizations).

- They won't have it available for another 2 months at the nonprofit rate, give or take. Could be shorter or longer.

- They have to update the PDF application for nonprofit purchases. (You see, it takes a graphic design software company two months to update a short PDF).

- They would be happy to fax me the application form, but it is for 5.0 not 6.0, so it is pointless.

- I can't get on any list to be notified when it becomes available.

I really don't want to go with inDesign, but this really tries our patience.

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Quark 6 ships next week, upgrades in 90 days

updated 07:55 am EDT, Fri June 13, 2003

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90 DAYS!!!?!?!

typical

whatever.

Quark

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$100 off??

No firm date

Easy to switch, Ha!

Easy switch, Ha!

What?

Designers don't know shi

Somebody needs to...

Get it right

Mac Design

Its about time...

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