L.A. APPLE STORES!!!!

Santa monica soon. Westwood soon. But MOREREREEREE!

The question is: are they turning a profit?
I suppose they must be for them to be opening more, but they didn't actually mention whether they are or not.

fred said either very close to break even or profit. for the actaully selling of macs.

but if you included all the free adertising they are getting by people passing by and going into the store then as mastercard would say:

priceless

I would like a store every few city blocks please.

Thank you Apple for the best computing experience that one could ever imagine. After working with SGI, PC's and Sun's, the combination of your machines and software is more inspirational and pleasant to work with than any of the aforementioned.

I've been a Macintosh user because my parents had them in the house, but my fiance has been a PC user her whole life. She hated having to use my PowerBook when her computer would break down...but one day we walked past the Apple Store in Valley Fair San Jose.

She saw the iPod in the window and wanted to check it out, so we went in. The Apple rep showed her how easy it was to connect the iPod on the Mac, and she asked if it worked the same way on Windows. The obvious answer was that iTunes didn't come with the Windows version. She started to want to know more about other peripherals connecting to a Mac. The guy was really helpful and later that week we came back after she decided to purchase an iBook and iPod.

That sale could not and would not have occurred if it wasn't for the help of that rep and the Apple Store. Best of luck to Apple and thank you for your courteous staff.

A local Apple retailer, The Computer Store stated the Pioneer Place store would be a "small foot print" store, and of little concern. Pioneer Place is run by Premier Marketplaces. They run many other high-end malls around the country including The Fashion Show in Las Vegas. Kruzic Communications who runs PR for Premier finally contacted me regarding my inquiry. This was their short reply; "Pioneer Place does not lease space to Apple Computers. Thanks for your inquiry!" My guess is that it's on hold.
I plan to walk the mall in the next day or so and see if I can get any digitals.

I wish Apple would open a store in Austin...I know they won't because Dell is here, but for crying out loud, there is NO DECENT PLACE to get Apple software in this city. Even Fry's sucks. Houston is the closest place with an Apple store...they also have a really nice Micro Center...but driving 200 miles for software is kinda stupid. The Macintosh community is huge in this town. We need an Apple store.

Apple s**** out another few apple stores. Yay. Too bad market share continues to plummet.

Apple needs to get macs in some f**king normal computer retail stores. Apple will only start gaining market share when a normal person can walk into a store and find mac products. What good is an apple store you have to drive 4 hours to get to? F*ck. I might as well order online.

Deciding where to open an Apple Retail Store (or any retail store) has more to do with prime retail space than anything else. Apple could open a store literally every block, but it comes down to placing stores in areas of a city where there's a combination high foot traffic and money. This only makes sense if you want to turn a profit.

You can always find where they'll be the next Apple Store by looking at their job listings on Apple.com. The almost exclufively post their retail openings there and most of the time they're in advance of an "announcement" that a store is coming.

>What good is an apple store you have to drive 4 hours to get to? F*ck. I might as well order online.

where do you live Texass?

Dear Aiiiiiighh who said "Apple opens up stores while gateway closes stores. Music to my ears." :

Please stop comparing Apple or yourself to losers.

Thank you,

Steve Jobs

All these Apple Stores and their market share is still going down. Last quarter they sold 711,000 units out of 34 million computers sold. That's 2.1%!!!

Switch to the PC!

Thats 2.1% of computers *sold* NOT market share. Apple's market share is likely increasing, despite the low sales.

I wonder what PC users will say when the PowerMac 970 finally comes-out and there are record-breaking sales that all-of-a-sudden at least double that 2.1% number over night.

$650M in sales (not including people who look at it in a store then mail order when they get home)
15M visitors. That works out to just over $43 per person. Not bad at all.

Thats 2.1% of computers *sold* NOT market share. Apple's market share is likely increasing, despite the low sales.

LOL!!! You are an idiot. 34 million PCs sold last quarter and Apple sold 711,000 of them and you are saying the percentage of computers out there that are Macs is increasing? LOL!!!!

The sales of personal computers is greater and greater every year, and Apple's unit numbers go down.

57 Apple Stores and their market share isn't going up. Two years ago, Steve said he wanted to double their market share from 5% to 10%. It's 2.1% now, so I guess the Apple Stores aren't working.

"Just wait until the IBM 970!" Yeah, I've heard that before with "Just wait for the G5!", "Just wait for the G4!", "Just wait for Jaguar!", "Just wait for OS X!" and on and on and on.

You guys have been saying "Just wait" for years and years. It's never going to happen. Apple is never going to have Macs that are faster than the fastest PC. There's too much money on the PC side. The IBM 970 is going to be as fast as a 3 Ghz Pentium 4. Woo hoo! Too bad the 4 Ghz Pentium 4 will be out by the time the 970 comes out for the Mac, assuming that it is.

You guys aren't even going to catch up with the 970, but I'll "Just wait..."

I applied for the positions and when I logged back into the website, it said the positions were removed - no further explanation. Having friends that work in the mall, rumors float it will be in the Rotunda as that is where the mall wants to focus it's shops and it is where the Regal theater will be. Since I see two interested Mac parties, care to meet up at the Square and walk over to the Mall one day and do some investigation? I have some ideas where the store may be going, and I've seen "the signs" as I moved from a city with a store opening that I kept tabs on construction of. If interested, contact ibugv4 via AIM.

Hey, how about us in our igloos up here? When is Steve going to bring a store to Canada?

We have the biggest mall in the world - perfect place for an Apple store!

Now hurry up and open one up, or I'll slap you with my beaver!

signed,

disgruntled Canuck

A very large percentage of PC's sold are to corporations, not to individuals (consumers). Another thing to take into account is everyone is anticipating the release of Macs based on PowerPC 970's. So of course current sales figures will decline given the possibility of a fundamental change to design and technology used to make Macs. People who are interested in buying higher end equipment want to be sure that whatever they buy will be viable for a long time to come. Most Mac users keep their systems a lot longer than their PC counterparts, who, as it seems based on the 34 million computers sold in one quater, are upgrading their systems about every year!?!? What's the percentage of new users buying PC's? I bet it's not as high as new Mac users buying systems. Apple has said that 50% of sales in the stores are to new Mac users. That's significant, because it means their user base continues to grow even though the number of units sold may have gone down.

The one Window troll that keeps posting in this forum OBVIOUSLY doesn't "get" what Apple and their Macintosh computers are about. Even if the market share drops to .1%, I'm still going to buy Mac and recommend them to everyone I know.

I have a part time job selling digital cameras and digital camcorders and I will be the first to say "I'm GLAD I'm part of the minority!!!" Mac users are much more intelligent and have a better grasp of technology. Windows users on the other hand often can't tell the difference between USB and Firewire.

I hurts me to see people buying ethernet cards (standard with all Apple computers), firewire cables, (standard with all Apple computers), USB cables, (standard with all Apple computers), basic video editing software (standard with all Apple computers). etc. etc. etc.

Keep talking out of your A$$... it's funny to smell what you have to say...

deep down he's really jealous of the whole mac experience.


How many people line up at a Gateway store opening?

Don't even give this pc guy a chance. He's just blowing off steam at work, and taking enjoyment in everyone's comments.

I'm willing to bet he's a Mac user just fooling around.

"How many people line up at a Gateway store opening?"

I told you, stop comparing my products to losers, you loser.

Steve Jobs.

That's significant, because it means their user base continues to grow even though the number of units sold may have gone down.

No, it doesn't, you idiot, because people replace their current Macs with new Macs. You are an idiot if you think every Mac sold since 1984 is to a different person. And you are also an idiot if you think there aren't Mac users switching to PC.

There are more consumers on the Mac than PC? Oh, I guess that's why there's 3X as many consumer titles for WIndows, huh? That's why there are so many games for the PC, and so many educational titles with the words "PC CD-ROM" on the packages, huh?

A PC game will sell 2 million easily, and a Mac success is 80,000 titles sold. I mean, MS Office for OS X only sold 300,000 copies in an entire year. Yeah, the Mac base is huge - NOT!!!

Just wait for Panther!!!!! Just wait for the 970!!!!

>sell 2 million easily

sure. just like every movie released make 200 million dollars.

if i want to sell parts for BMWs. I know my market is not going to be as big if i were selling Ford parts.

Guess what you're Ford.
Pity.

You have mad cows and SARS. Please go away and stop asking for stuff. Go Ducks.

sorry...

Would someone tell me Apple's market share in understandable terms:

new home pc to new home mac
new school pc to new school mac
current OSs sold (OSX : XP)

for many reasons, including henrico and maine, not the least of which is the strange vision of the above-purported switchers apparently exclaiming "s**** this ease of use c*** - I want combo boxes and flipping tabs and futzing with registers!"

new home pc to new home mac: about 10:1
new school pc to new school mac: about 20:1
current OS sold (OSX/XP): 5million/20million

You wanted simple, here it is as simply put as I know how:

Apple's US marketshare: very very close to 5% (new numbers coming)

Adjusted for the fact that Macs are replaced half as often as PCs: around 10%

Apple's worldwide marketshare: 3%

Apple's worldwide installed base: 25-27 million

Approximate percentage of ACTIVE USE non-server computers that are Macs: 12%

This means that in terms of non-server computers, Apple is actually the #1 brand name of computers sold.

Apple's marketshare in biosciences: 50% and growing
Apple's marketshare in publishing: >80%
Apple's marketshare in pro audio: >50% and growing
Apple's marketshare in pro video: >50% and growing

Bottom line: Apple is never going to be #1. Does anybody care as long as the company a) stays in business and b) keeps putting out great products? Nope.

Apple will be around when Gateway closes its doors. Apple will be around when Dell sells out. Apple will be here when HP finally collapses under its own weight.

In then end, Apple, IBM and a few other tech companies will survive. Apple is doing just fine with their "tiny" marketshare, thanks very much. You don't have to be Ford or GM to do well in the car business, why do people think you have to be MS or Dell to do well in the computer business?

"This means that in terms of non-server computers, Apple is actually the #1 brand name of computers sold."

Ha ha, even I as a Mac user am not as insane as you. At the rate you are going, Apple will soon have 125% of the marketshare. :) You are just killing me here.

Also, Apple is not BMW nor Mercedes. That comparison is just trite (and wrong). Both have more than 2.5% of their market.

Why do MS worshippers think we give a flying f*** how big Apple's market share is next to all of the other computer hardware companies combined? IT DOESN'T MATTER. It isn't a measure of Apple's sucess, and Apple having 5% or 3% or whatever doesn't mean s*** if they are solvent and healthy and putting out stuff that works for their users.

If you love your Windows machine so much then f*** off and use it.

yeah, and suck my enormous d***!

Who cares what marketshare is? The number of people buying Apple Computers is growing. The company is one of only two (the other being Dell) that are actually turning profits during a sluggish economy.

I'd rather be in Apple's position, than in HP's or Gateway's right now. That has nothing to do with the computers they make (or windows), more that their companies are not financially sound right now. Nothing is worse than working for or buying products from a company that may not be there in several years - can anyone say Compaq? (Sure it kind of exist as part of HP)

Apple is what it is, an innovative company that turns out good products. (Ever wonder why Steve Jobs makes the cover of 'Time' magazine for his products???) This is why there's such a strong loyalty to Apple by people who have used their products. Often times, too many arguements come from those who haven't actually used Apple's products, which is sad and I feel sorry for their ignorance.

Oh, and in regards to marketshare again.... iPod baby.

OK, I'm a lifetime Mac user, but you guys are wrong if you think the 970's going to multiply market share. The only reason Apple will have a guaranteed hit is because the rest of us with old Apple boxes have been WAITING SO LONG FOR A PROPER CPU that we will all get a new Mac. But that isn't any expansion of market share, becuase duh, we already own Macs! Corporations and average Joes aren't going to be swayed much by the 970. They aren't buying PCs because they're the fastest. They're buying PCs because they're the fastest and cheapest and most compatible with existing systems. That other poster was right. "Just wait until ____ and Apple will rule!" isn't going to be true for the 970 unless Apple has some sort of irresistible corporate IT bait up its sleeve (face it, Unix and XServe weren't enough, what the h*** do you do now).

I haven't been slapped with a beaver in a couple of years.
Please tell me where I can meet you for an encounter of the Northerly kind!

The 970 will mean us Mac users won't switch to the PC. It won't bring PC users to the Mac.

No, dumbass, the latest figures show Apple selling 2.1% of all computers sold, which is down, not up.

Apple's education market share is going down, not up.

There are 25 million Mac users total, you say, yet there are 33 million new PC users every f****** quarter, you dumbass.

I wonder how soon HP will drop support for the Mac like they did before, with their printers.

There are two greeting card programs for OS X. There are dozens for Windows. Market share means choice. It's awesome. It means I don't pay $150 for a $50 ATI 9000 video card like you do on the Mac.

"Who cares what marketshare is?"

Uh, Apple? Wallstreet? Steve. Most Mac users?

And then you contradicted yourself by saying marketshare is important e.g. iPod which is the most impressive and best selling product of its kind.

So, marketshare is not important when the product is not selling but is important when it's hot?

Let me guess, you work in marketing? Zealot.

it aint that bad