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.Mac users get free Jaguar training tutorials

updated 09:10 am EST, Thu March 20, 2003

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Apple is offering .Mac users (free) as part of its subscription-based Web tools offering. The collection of more than 80 online manuals and tutorials (divided into 8 categories) is valued at $30 and is designed to help users better understand Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar. It includes QuickTime movies, tips and other hints, and other useful resources.

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03/20, 09:50am | report spam | close Reply |
think different!

Do YOU still think DIFFERENT or do you just think TITANIC ?
give peace a chance!

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03/20, 09:55am | report spam | close Reply |
ON TOPIC...

Regarding the first post... ????????

Anyway, back on topic, Best Buy has something like this for Windows XP. They call it learning place and they charge $59 for it. It is good for EVERY user. I know a bunch about XP, but it shows you how to do it the way XP was designed to do it... Can't wait to get home and check it out with my .mac account...

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03/20, 09:58am | report spam | close Reply |
why not free?

it's weird.. you pay for the software, but you also have to pay to know how to use it better.

i'm not the usual 'get me free stuff you b******', but jaguar user could benefice a lot about this. maybe if they gave us a big user manual, but they don't.

and remember, a power user as always been the best publicity for apple over all those years. give newbie the tools to become power user and they will spread the word about that great OS.

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Re: why not free

i'm not the usual 'get me free stuff you b******', but jaguar user could benefice a lot about this. maybe if they gave us a big user manual, but they don't.

Yeah, but no one reads user's manuals anymore.

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03/20, 10:15am | report spam | close Reply |
good for you grandmother

Hey, so what they do not give this out for free? How many people reading this forum really need this information?

Instead think of a PC owner converting or your grandmother, they do need extra information on everyday computer use. Is it wrong to charge for that type of training? No, my user group charges for it's introduction classes, the Dummies books cost money. They are making the Mac.com package actually worth something, sure it sucks to have to pay for stuff, but for new users this is a great deal.
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Free training at...

http://www.atomiclearning.com/freemacosx.shtml

It's been available for a while now.

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03/20, 10:33am | report spam | close Reply |
I agree

This is Bull. They act like they are doing tou a favor when in esssence they are making you pay for something that should be included with the computer. This is another example of Apples nickel and dime tactics. I don't have a .Mac account (and never will) and think this reeks of microft type business practices.

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Good deal for.....

....my sister that is kinda new to the Mac. She can learn at her own pace and if she has a question she doesn't have to deal with my sarcasm. She it however totally willing to fork over another 100 for the next year of .Mac!

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[I]This is Bull. They act like they are doing tou a favor when in esssence they are making you pay for something that should be included with the computer. This is another example of Apples nickel and dime tactics. I don't have a .Mac account (and never will) and think this reeks of microft type business practices.[/I]

Very good point. As an non-profit, Apple and it's volunteers should provide this sort of thing for free to the world to enjoy. It only makes sense.
Oh wait, Apple is in business to make money and has to pay its employees and therefore needs to charge money for the products they produce. Of course if you've already paid Apple for it's subscription service, then this is a value added bonus. Get used to it.

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03/20, 11:37am | report spam | close Reply |
OK to charge

It's OK to charge for this kind of stuff... It's an easy for them to get more people to join .mac

Windows XP doesn't really have a manual, and good luck going to the www.microsoft.com Web site for anything...

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Lesson one-

Here is the best way to use Jaguar- go buy a multi-button mouse.

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03/20, 02:08pm | report spam | close Reply |
It's not Micro$haftish

It's totally Maccentric.

Take Quicktime Pro for example, you have to pay for the added abilities if you want it (and many people don't) so for those that don't, they are not FORCED to buy it when they buy their machine. It would certinly be added cost to the price point. If this were included, I would have to pay 100.00 more for a service I don't want because my machine will not be on the internet EVER!!!

So it's optional.
So it is a good service.
So new users can learn straight from apple.
So 30$ is what it's worth.
So it's free for current members.

For those of you who don't have .mac, Apple told you that they will add more and more....here it is and more is to come.

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free with x

i was not being a 'give us stuff you b******'. i'm just saying that kind of thing makes people use their product in a good way and it pay.

just go to the adobe website. there is a lot of tips in video format and it's all free. i already know photoshop, but these videos makes me use it better, and if one day there is competition, well good luck new comer, because i know photoshop a lot and won't swith because of that. and these helped me to get there.

apple is climbing all the time, we have now a wopping 3%. mac osX was supposed to change that, but it doesn't, we are still falling.

so before we climb to 2%, why not tell the people how to use it right, in a more productive way and how it's cool to use X. theyy will talk about it, they will show people on how to use it, how it's cooler than their windows box, etc etc..

this is why i think they should include this with X, not selling it.

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re: free with x

Good point but you HAVE PAID for this many times whne you purchased new versions of Adobe products as this "free" service was factored into the price point of Adobe apps.

And guess what? I was forced to pay for it even though I never used the site to which you refer to.

So It's not optional (to pay for)
So it's still a good (paid) service
So new and experienced users can learn straight from Adobe
So I wonder what it's worth (more than 30$??)
So it's free for anyone that wants to go there.

If you visit the mac os x page you'll see free videos as well.

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03/20, 03:38pm | report spam | close Reply |
Hmm..

I remember the days when if you bought something, you would actually get a manual with it.. All included in the price!
But now people have to buy Jaguar AND .mac before they have any hope of knowing how to use 10.2 properly?

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03/20, 06:38pm | report spam | close Reply |
Not essential

I am a .Mac customer and I've tried the training pages several hours ago. It looks pretty and all, but it covers pretty basic stuff. Just the next level up from what the manual offers.

So stop whinning and buy The Mission Manual or something instead.

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re: Hmm

I think included in the price is the key here people.

What if I am an expert?
Why should I want a manual included?

Included=xta cost added to make up for it

The way it is now: I am not forced to buy a manual and
I have dozens of choices regarding a manual if I want one.

The bad way: I when I buy a machine I am forced to pay extra for it because there is a manual included and there are not allot of choices out there because one comes with every machine anyway and there is not enough demand because of that.

Hmm...indeed

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03/20, 07:47pm | report spam | close Reply |
You don't miss anytning.

I received this CD with my free copy of Jaguar (I'm a teacher).

This CD is almost useless and just plain boring. It's just a website in which they put boring QuickTIme movies.

If you know how to log in and open windows, you don't need this CD...

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Bloody Morons

Asking for a uesr manual for a fairly new operating system is not to much to ask. Making .Mac a condition for getting this info just plain sucks.

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re: Bloody Morons

To have Apple include a manual is like asking your mother to give you a book on all aspects of life.

Computer, like life encompass a broad range of situations and features, applications, genres, etc.

Do you want a newbie that just wants to connect to the internet to have to page through volumes of information just to find out about internet connect?

Apple does include an manual: it's called "help center". and it works even if you have no internet connection. It also adds third party products to itself as you install more apps.

If you are connected to the internet, Help Center will gather the latest information so it's always up to date.

Try THAT with a printed maual.

Books on iMovie are about 75 pages long.
Add the other apps and you have a manual that is titanic.

Then when Panther comes out that 2000 page manual is sunk.

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why not free?

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good for you grandmother

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I agree

Good deal for.....

right

OK to charge

Lesson one-

It's not Micro$haftish

free with x

re: free with x

Hmm..

Not essential

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You don't miss anytning.

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