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Apple developing Web services technology

updated 01:50 pm EST, Tue February 11, 2003

 
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SearchWebServices.com writes: "Apple has quietly taken some tentative steps towards , notably with its WebObjects application development environment. And the long-popular FileMaker database, with a strong and loyal following of Mac aficionados, may well be a backdoor way for Apple to make inroads into Web services market as well."


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    Don't!

    Don't use FileMaker for web services until they update the database engine to have MORE THAN ONE THREAD.

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    Good god

    Why FileMaker, of all applications? IME, FileMaker is ok for a small Access-like desktop database, but not for deploying any enterprise or professional level application.

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    new MT version??

    maybe they are (hopefully) developing a new version of filemake that will be multi-threaded? It's almost in-excusable these days for a DBMS not to be multi-threaded.

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    chill

    filemaker for internal client UI - data entry and access

    webobjects for application processing and web interface

    industrial SQL DB for actual database load

    - would be cool IMO

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    Apple not helping???

    Searching for soap at developer.apple.com returns 141 results. They pertain to php, mysql, applescript, carbon apis, cocoa apis. WebObjects the only area of web services, I don't thinkg so:

    http://developer.apple.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?&q=soap&num=10&lang=lang_en|lang_zh-CN|lang_fr|lang_de|lang_ja&ie=utf8&oe=utf8
    http://developer.apple.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?&q=web+services&num=10&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

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    Contradiction?

    If FileMaker says "Don't run FileMaker Server on OS X Server" (see MacNN article from earlier in the day) and then thinks people are going to use it as the basis for an enterprise-level web services rig, they've got another think coming. The whole point of OS X was to provide a stable OS that would give all the different services the processor time they need. The side effect of this is that you can consolidate a few servers into one because everything is handled more efficiently, plus then you don't have the overhead of inter-server communication taking up bandwidth as your webserver talks to FileMaker. FileMaker should be ashamed that they require a dedicated Mac for their Server app in this day and age-- especially considering their roots.

    Side note, I've got a client who has been running OS X Server 10.1.x and FileMaker Server 5.5 on a Dual 800 for a year now with very few problems (the few problems we have I attribute to 10.1.x being crappy, and I'm pushing hard for the client to cough up for Jaguar Server)

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    Won't happen

    and if it does no one will use it. Webobjects is alreay too small a player and none of these will compete with PHP and even Lasso. Apple knows better. FMP is junk in the web world.

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    ...and is it still

    use filemaker w/ a rack of inexpensive servers (provided none of them are running mac os x or os x server)? Filemaker has potential, but to have the mac version be less powerful than the *cough* other operating system's version...it's catch up time... maybe that's next week's announcement.

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    w*** small?

    Whoever said WebObjects is a small piece is an idiot, especially if they're comparing it to PHP. Different ballgame.. No, different sport entirely.

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    multi thread

    "update the database engine to have MORE THAN ONE THREAD"

    FileMaker Server is multi thread.

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