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Apple to announce 800Mbps FireWire?

updated 08:00 pm EST, Mon January 6, 2003

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ITworld.com reports on a "premature news release" this morning by SmartDisk on new desktop hard drives that connect to Macs using the new high-speed 800Mbps FireWire standard: "The aborted news suggests that , or FireWire 800, in his keynote speech at Macworld Expo Tuesday. FireWire2 is the next generation of the Apple-invented standard. It supports data transfer at 800Mbps and is backwards-compatible with computers and peripherals that support FireWire 1."

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Media developers dream...

Audio and video pumping through at 800mbs, this is awesome!

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Optical Audio Connections

Firewire2 and 8 channel audio lightpipes would be great!

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We'll see tomorrow

It's about time....if they really do. Didn't the 1394 trade association say that 1394b or firewire2 would be ready last summer? It seems as though there has been a lot of talk about Firewire 2 with no sign of it actually existing, reminds me of the G5 rumors.

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The need for speed...

One way or another. Faster throughput is always good.
I want to here about Motorola getting canned and Apple solidifying a deal for faster processors already.

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Takes time to create

The 1394 TA did, indeed, say that one could get hardware to do this sometime last summer, but there is a substantial lag between having a final spec and chips that have passed muster, and having them inside devices.

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OK

So where are the FW800 hard disks and CD burners? FW HD VCRs anyone?

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firewire "b"

the spec is ieee-1394b though people may call it firewire2 in competition with usb 2. other drive vendors are ready to ship the new 800mps devices!

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640k is enough!

Kay is unimpressed with the promise of Firewire2. "I don't know what we need it for".
HUH? This is from an IDC analyst? If goldurn people were meant tuh fly, they'da been born with wings!
I did figure out what his problem was, though. FW/2 wasn't invented by Intel.
Yeah, the sarcasm is dripping from my fingers. Now, where did I put all those 250MB SCSI drives I used to run? I don't know what I'd ever need more space than they had!
Moron.

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cd and dvd

burners cannot even begin to use the bandwith of firewire, let alone firewire 2. So nothing will go faster in that respect, the only good thing about firewire 2 would be for fast transfer between 2 storage drives, but even then they won't be able to keep the current firewire running at full capacity. Oh well, this should make you guys happy since nothing else computerwise will be faster, not cpu's anyway...heh heh....

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FW2

What many do not "get" is that FW2 is a lot more than just a doubling of the speed. They really went back to the drawing board to come up with a new set of protocols and a hardware design that will support speeds up to and beyond 1.6gbps and is easier to implement than FW1, all while maintaining backward compatibility. That's why it has taken so long.

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> burners cannot even begin to use the bandwith of firewire,
> let alone firewire 2. So nothing will go faster in that >
> respect...

You blistering f****** idiot... what part of your a** did you pull that out of? Ever heard of DIGITAL VIDEO, you f****** a******? I don't give a flying rat's a** about your stupid CD burnders and whether they'll "use the bandwidth." f*** YOU, moron.

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You're right

You're right....

But you need your Prozac bud.

And maybe with this kind of speed we can actually hook a video camera up, daisy chained to a hard drive and it will actually work.

Maybe we could get video on to our iPods.

Maybe we can get a raid 5 data set to send data super fast to another system with raid 5?

Maybe we'll have a new way to setup local network that would rock for video shops!

nah

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What if...

Any chance Apple's new raid device will be connected via FireWire2 instead of fiber?

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Wow, somebody is just a bit on edge today, huh?

Anyway, god help the person responsible for leaking this and have pity on that person because you can bet your a** that Steve won't.

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in what?

in what machine will it be? i don't know, but maybe it will not be a bad macworld like the last couples one!

can't wait for tommorow!

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re:heard of DIGITAL VIDEO

>You blistering f****** idiot... what part of your a**
>did you pull that out of?
>Ever heard of DIGITAL VIDEO, you f****** a******?

AFAIK, DV cameras will transfer data in real time regardless of whether the connection is FW1 or "FW2". Realtime DV is much less than the (theoretical) 400 Mbps of Firewire. USB2 actually transfers video much faster because it transfers the data as files, not video footage, and so is able to use the full speed available to it. The downside is that you can't use USB (1 or 2) to control the camera from the computer. The other downside is that we don't have USB2 drivers...

FW2 also won't get video (or anything) into an iPod more quickly because the iPod has a relatively slow transfer rate. Hard drives aren't all THAT fast and the iPod is just another hard drive.

I think that FW will begin to shine when it starts being incorporated into consumer AV electronics. So come on Sony, get cracking.

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IP over FireWire

Everyone's forgetting this. FireWire2 is almost as fast as Gigabit ethernet. The next version of FW2 will be faster (1.6Gb/sec), the next will be over three times as fast (3.2Gb/sec). Having the equivalent of 3 gigabit ports could be very nice (once Apple gets a non-beta ip over FW kext done).

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mix this with a much faster airport... maybe we have something here!

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This thread

This is only the second thread I've read on this site and the same person using the same vulgar language and aggressive insulting appears on both. The agreement to post on this site included refraining form that kind of language. If you have a point, make it. Don't use insulting language that makes it appear to apply to you than to those you criticize.

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f*** you, a******!!!

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You'll discover that flinging frequent uncalled-for vulgar insults is the way we communicate here at macnn. The reason is that we're all around 12, our testicles are finally descending, and saying "f***" a lot makes us as cool as Eminem.

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