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Apple nearly triples server marketshare

updated 04:50 pm EST, Mon October 28, 2002

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The US server market continued to show signs of recovery with a in the third quarter of 2002, while the worldwide market share grew by 3.1 percent, according to preliminary statistics by Dataquest. Apple showed a 273% market growth over the third quarter of 2001 with a total of 5,700 units shippped in the US. (The Xserve began shipping early in the quarter.) Apple was No. 4 in the US server market with 1.2 percent marketshare behind Dell (26.3%), HP (25.9%), IBM (11.7%), and Sun (6.9%).

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Fuzzy math

"Apple was No. 4 in the US server market with 1.2 percent marketshare behind Dell (26.3%), HP (25.9%), IBM (11.7%), and Sun (6.9%)"

Uhh... duh... doesn't that make Sun #4?

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No, because...

... the way of counting has just changed from

1, 2, 3, 4, and 5

to

1, 2, 3, 4, and 4.

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re: no, because

Exactly, some people are so far behind it makes me sick.

No wonder you can never boil egs properly, its 65 minutes and a wet teatowl not 3 minutes, which anyone with a clue knows, would result in a very hard egg.

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10/28, 05:13pm | report spam | close Reply |
hmm,

so four comes after four? well, with this and the megahertz myth apple can't go wrong.

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IBM PPC

This is interesting in light of the recent announcement by IBM for the new PPC chip. What happens if Apple seriously threatens IBM's market share for servers...would IBM stop selling chips to them?

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10/28, 05:24pm | report spam | close Reply |
small numbers

with small numbers, its not hard to get 275% increases, too bad it wasn't million instead of a measly 57 hundred machines.

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10/28, 05:25pm | report spam | close Reply |
heh...

Apple was 5th behind...oh, the other four companies that make servers.

Might as well say they came in last.

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Re: IBM PPC

not if IBM is making a hefty profit from selling the chips to apple. it like microsoft making software for the mac. M$ and Apple are competitors but M$ is also a software company so why not make software for the competing platform if it turns a profit?

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re:IBM PPC

Who says the market share Apple would gain would come at the expense of IBM? It come could from Dell, HP and Sun just as well. IBM and Apple both use PPC and are a viable option to the other 3. I don't think IBM would be upset.

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worldwide

The worldwide server market grew 3.1 percent in the third quarter of 2002, as worldwide server shipments totaled 1.1 million, up from 1.07 million units in the third quarter of 2001

the 5,700 machines looks pretty paltry in comparison to the total of 1.1 MILLION being sold in that quarter. MILLION, not hundred thousand, not tens of thousands. 5,7000... ha!

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even Dell

sold 37 times the number Apple sold. over 200,000 in 1 quarter.

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Re: worldwide

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It should also be noted that With a growth of 273%, it could be said that 14% of the worldwide growth can be attributed to Apple, as there was only a growth of about 30 thousand machines worldwide.

In addition, it should be noted that in the US, the server sales market increased by 50 thousand machines, but worldwide, it only increased by 30 thousand machines. This means that outside the US, the market shrank. Inside the US, it grew. The US is solely responsible for the server market growth.

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we all know..

.. that the Xserve is a calculator in comparison to enterprise class servers and what Apple COULD do in the server market is the get their druthers.. no one hopes more than me that they'll expand into a real competitor in a portion of business, then, if we're lucky, successfully branch out into more consumer electronics, like the iPod.. same old story is that we have to wait for IBM to get us our chip.. *sigh*

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Re: we all know...

True, but Apple can't do it in one quarter, or even a year. They have to build up slowly, and we have to wait.

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Competing against P3

Apple's 1U xServe box is competing against other 1U x86 boxes, that mostly contain Pentium III processors. An update to the G4, a G5 or 970 chip will boost Apple's xServe competitiveness considerably. The fast and watt burning x86 processors are more difficult to cool in a small 1U box.

For that matter, when the 970 arrives, it will make a very strong performer in a notebook computer. Simply because the desktop version only uses 2/3 the watts of the desktop x86 processors. It's much less difficult to put a 970, low-volt version, in a small box, than it is for the x86 desktop designs.

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Server Market BS

Apple didn't increase anything they moved their apples (npi) from one basket to another. They sold XServers instead of High End G4's...

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Re: hmmm...

"so four comes after four? well, with this and the megahertz myth apple can't go wrong."

Did it occur to you that it could be a simple typo? Is it ok if I chastise you for not beginning your sentence with a capital letter?

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Server Market BS

Apple didn't increase anything they moved their apples (npi) from one basket to another. They sold XServers instead of High End G4's...

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Patience, Grasshopper

A forest starts from a single seed. Apple is laying the foundation for future growth with its XServer.

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25 of 5,700

i work for a school district that bought 25 of those 5,700 Xserves. they are kinda buggy.

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Re: Server Market BS

Apple didn't increase anything they moved their apples (npi) from one basket to another. They sold XServers instead of High End G4's..

Um, no. Because the High End G4 servers they sold were also servers, and counted accordingly before. They just sold very little of them.

And what kind of school district buys multiple of any computer (esp. a rev A server hardware) without testing it out thoroughly beforehand?

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Re: Server Market BS

> And what kind of school district buys multiple of any
> computer (esp. a rev A server hardware) without testing it
> out thoroughly beforehand?

The kind of school district that employs the kind of morons and idiots who post c*** like the aforementioned "anecdotal" story. God, what a dope.

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bad apples

wow am I the only happy mac user here? Looks like every mac user is an expert and upset about it to. All I konw is every time I have a new apple product at the door it gives me a good feeling.

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Yeay!

We bought one too! Way to go. :P

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4 or 5

Apple can't be N� 5 but only N�4. This is due to Motorola not being able to supply them with the N�5. Rumors are that Apple may switch of supplier and make a deal with Chanel since they already are at N�5. As a matter of fact, it's been told in the industry that Apple was already using Cocoa Chanel N�5 in some of its iApplications.

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Get your counting right

It is obvious that the author uses the c convention.
0, 1, 2, 3 , 4.
Problem solved.

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re: bad apples

Nope! I like my Mac very much. In fact, I'd rather be typing this on my Mac than on NT at work, but alas...I probably shouldn't be typing this at all at work, should I?

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happy

(mac user) I feeeel Happpy! HAPPPPY!

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Count me in

Just bought one too. Getting it on thursday.... sweet :)

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Maybe

You with the 25 flakey servers. Why don't you go to Apple's discusion boards and figure out the issues. We haven't bought ours yet (waiting for the Raid unit). But I have been going there (and MacNN forum) to find out all the hitches before hand.

Always a good thing to do. I feel confident everything is going to be fine. NOW WHEN IS THAT DAMN RAID UNIT SHIPPING!

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They Have Tripled

Growth of 273% = share size * 3.73; basic math here people.

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