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Browne leaving Mac BU

updated 04:50 pm EDT, Fri October 11, 2002

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Microsoft Macintosh Business Unit general manager Kevin Browne will leave his current role at the software giant to work in the company's Xbox gaming division. According to Microsoft's PR contact, the company is currently in the process of determining who will fill the position of General Manager, which Browne has held for six years.

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10/11, 05:13pm | report spam | close Reply |
Shouldn't be too hard

Most of the people I know who work at Microsoft have a Mac at home, so there's no lack of likely candidates out there!

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10/11, 05:36pm | report spam | close Reply |
uh

yeah, my best friend works there and he has a mac at home . . .

in the closet under some old clothes.

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10/11, 05:43pm | report spam | close Reply |
Good Luck Kevin!

Good Luck Kevin!

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10/11, 05:59pm | report spam | close Reply |
That explains it!

That explains why MS had posted his position to their job listings a week ago.

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10/11, 06:25pm | report spam | close Reply |
yes

all your apple are belong to XBOX

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yes

XBOX2 will use the a powerpc variant like the gamecube's gecko.

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10/11, 06:37pm | report spam | close Reply |
Hopefully ...

... this will not turn out to be a bad thing. I didn't always agree with everything Kevin said, but at least he tried to be upfront and honest with the Mac community, and that helped A LOT in restoring some portion of Microsoft's credibility with us. He'll be missed.

(OTOH, I predict the xbox has about two years to live, so maybe he'll be back soon)

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10/11, 07:34pm | report spam | close Reply |
This is embaressing

I will take the job of Browne. I know where to go.
I think it's rediculous to run away from the Mac to XBox. Because the XBox is doomed, but not as doomed as the Mac is.

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10/11, 09:56pm | report spam | close Reply |
LMAO

Uh, guy, Macs aren't going anywhere. Yeah, they may get relegated to a few niche markets but Apple still is profitable with them. Microsoft is losing their a** on the XBox. Up to a $150 loss every one they sell. They expect to subsidize the hardware with software sales (that's how it works in the console industry). But, they have hardly any games that anyone wants. This Christmas will put the hurt on them with Nintendo and Sony both having excellent titles coming to their library and MS not having any "killer apps" to make Johnny 6-year old want one under the tree.

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10/11, 11:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
hire me

i'm looking for a job and being in an air conditioned office with computer access would do nicely. i would do a slack job since it's ms, but do enought to stick around for a little while. ultimately my plan would be to bring them down from the inside but if i dont last that long i can always say i worked there. for some reason employers like to hear about any kind of involvement with them...

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10/12, 12:29am | report spam | close Reply |
Sjakelien...

...learn to spell first. That can only help. Then spend a few years growing up. X-Box and the Mac aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

As for X-Box games this Christmas, try Halo II. One game like that is enough to keep them afloat. MS isn't that stupid - they may lose money, but that's the game. Why anyone would want to send their money to Sony in Japan is beyond me. Sony sucks.

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microsoft mbu

excessive, when the seat is separated too much and careful in a loud voice. there is also a possibility of causing confusion. it may become confused fighting when the worst. it was becoming confused fighting in the field event. it is if a situation is considered that you were not careful. I think that it was good judgment. it seemed that the man of a nearby seat took care of it. I consider.
although it is good in complying, how can't it be? although it seems that it was quiet temporarily, in other halls, it is after all.
it seems that moreover, trouble was made

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This is embaressing

I will take the job of Browne. I know where to go.
I think it's rediculous to run away from the Mac to XBox. Because the XBox is doomed, but not as doomed as the Mac is.

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re: Xbox is doomed

Well at least not for a long while -- they're going to be here years from now with the XBox 2 which is already in development. You'd figure that will survive at least a couple of years so you can figure the XBox still has till at least 2006 or so to turn things around.

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re: Xbox is doomed

People send their money to Japan because the Japanese game developers are much more creative and make much better games. Halo and Halo 2 are really the only big exclusives that MS has. And soon they will be on the PC and run much better on a 2.8GHz P4 with a Radeon 9700 Pro. Those types of gamers are the target for the Halo series. I have a friend who bought XBox for the sole reason of Halo. That's all he could talk about was HALO HALO HALO. Now he has Halo, but not much else to play that's any good after he got bored with it. Japanese Nintendo, on the other hand, has a multitude of franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, Pokemon, etc.) and Japanese Sony pretty much owns the Japanese third party community because they are going to develop first for Japanese console (and we thought Americans were patriotic). Sony has a huge installed base which as a crappy developer (like MS is as well) gives them an advantage. If a developer is going to do an exclusive, they'll probably put it on PS2. Why? Because developers are in the business to make money and they have three times as many consoles to possibly sell through on if they do PS2 (look at Squaresoft or Enix if you need an example). So, I see Sony and Nintendo having lots of apps to sell consoles but I don't think Halo is going to put the XBox under the Christmas tree for most.

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??

As for X-Box games this Christmas, try Halo II. One game like that is enough to keep them afloat.

How does one $40 game keep xbox afloat when they're losing $150 on each box?

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stupid move

considering the Japanese market is essential to ANY console success, and the wonderswan and Dreamcast are beating it soundly. Its only neck and neck with the cube here in the US. not exactly what I would call a commanding lead of the market.
So this guy is jumping into the xbox division where the only way they can buy developers is to buy them outright> fine then, now you have a game from rare ,and a few from bungie. Good luck getting more that ONE game from rare though, what a bad move, and with xbox live poised to flop onto the scene soon...

no thanks I'll go back to my PS2 and GameCube since all the quality franchises seem to be there already.

im not even going into their DRM practices, or how they treat the mod market (linux on xbox anyone?). changing the hardware design is just stupid.

my four cents worth

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talk about a lack

of faith...YOU do know that Konami has stated that there will be no metal gear solid 2 for xbox. they simply dont see why they should develop for the console. perhaps this is the start of a huge downhill slide, since that was a key franchise this fall. no one has faith in that huge box over there.

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Sjakelien--Why?

Sjakelien--

If you think the Mac is doomed, then why have you taken the time and trouble to post your idiotic, ungrammatical, semantically ridiculous and orthographically unsound message on this forum, not just once, but twice? Isn't it a tragic waste of your valuable time?

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Make it Great!

If Xbox was selling like hot cakes, then I don't think there would be a possition to take. The whole idea is to jump into something and turn it around. Make the Xbox into the number one machine with killer apps. That's what it's all about.

If it were Apple, it could be done. But it's microsoft, so good luck Kevin...

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Good riddence

Now the MacBU will have a chance at getting a manager that will push for real cross-platform compatibility instead of pushing out $400 cosmetic upgrades.

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out with the trash

OK, this guy was dumped because he's A) worthless to the MacBU or B) trying to turn around the xbox .

either way, xbox is in a world of pain, and if they keep on having managing turnover like this we can assume they will be going the way of the wonderswan. Although the wonderswan is beating the xbox right now.

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Whatever.

As long as MS has a lightgun ready for Sega's House Of The Dead 3, I don't care WHAT happens.

Myself, I'm buying the software at full price and waiting for the Xbox to tank (a la Dreamcast) before buying the system. So hurry up and sink, Bill.

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stupid move

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