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AirPort BS firmware updated for Jaguar

updated 12:45 pm EDT, Tue August 6, 2002

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Apple's AirPort Base Station firmware 4.0.6 is designed for the Snow (dual-Ethernet) base stations, and does not support the Graphite base station. The Airport Admin Utility has improved scanning for base stations across local subnets, improving the ability for AirPort computers to find base stations while plugged into the LAN port. It also improves ompatibility with Internet service providers or other home router products that use private 10.0.0.x or 10.0.1.x addresses in bridge mode, and also brings support for Rendezvous-enabled applications in Mac OS X v10.2.

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Airport and Rendevous

It seems that Rendevous is going to replace the Software base station function lost in OS X. Any thoughts out there?

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Airport and Rendevous

It seems that Rendevous is going to replace the Software base station function lost in OS X. Any thoughts out there?

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Jaguar has a software BS

Jaguar includes a software BS (in the System Preferences under Sharing). Rendevous is not meant as a replacement for software BS.

Software base stations are used to distribute network connections to other computers. Rendevous' job is to discover what services a computer is providing automatically. So once your (base station/ethernet cable/modem) supplies a device with its network conneciton, Rendevous asks all other computers on that same network what services they are providing, so once your computer is connected to the network it knows what computers are sharing their iTunes playlists, sharing their Pictures folders, etc. Rendevous can also be used to automatically setup two computer's networking configurations without intervention. For example, you plug in two computers via a crossover Ethernet cable, and want to share files with them. Rendevous will automatically assign them network addresses without a DHCP server.

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My Graphite base

I'm guessing this means that computers using 10.0.1.x addresses will be able to see each other via rendezvous but not see things with IPs beyond that subnet, such as one of my computers also on the network but using another ISP provided IP...

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Graphite!?

Does this firmware update mean, that with the graphite you will not be able to use rendezvous?
Also where is the VPN and dial-in support for the graphite?

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Blow me Apple

Probably so I'll bet. This is why I will probably eventually switch to Windows and a PC. I don't have the money to keep upgrading my hardware every time Apple upgrades and decides to leave their "older" products behind. It doesn't cost anything to call Microsoft for the code to XP. Apple has a bad "upgrade of die" mentality now.

All this and .mac too!

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Ditto on the Graphite!

Hey.. can anyone be clear that a Rendezvous-enabled 10.2 will work with my Graphite base station? Gheez this freaking sux if I have to upgrade my 6 month old graphite base station before any application running Rendezvous will work.

Some please clear up the story. I can live with limted function and less encryption.. but to not work at all? Does anyone else feel screwed?

(GRRRRRRRRR) DOWN MINIME!

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RE:Blow Me Apple

Go buy a PC....Get off this forum. I love it when Mac users threaten to buy PCs when Apple does something they don't like. Has your base station done everything that Apple said it was originally supposted to do? Then STFU! WWWAaaaaa MY BASE STATION DOESN'T SUPPORT A PROTOCAL THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED TO ALLOW ME TO RUN PROGRAMS THAT DON'T EXIST. APPLE SUX CAUSE I'M A BRAINLESS TWIT. Do you think it's any better on the other side. My solice comes the fact that someday you will have to put up with your decision to become Bill's b*tch, And you will have to put up and shut up because what choice do you have when your a windows user.

Have a Very Nice Day!

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Go buy a PC....Get off this forum. I love it when Mac users threaten to buy PCs when Apple does something they don't like. Has your base station done everything that Apple said it was originally supposted to do? Then STFU! WWWAaaaaa MY BASE STATION DOESN'T SUPPORT A PROTOCAL THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED TO ALLOW ME TO RUN PROGRAMS THAT DON'T EXIST. APPLE SUX CAUSE I'M A BRAINLESS TWIT. Do you think it's any better on the other side. My solice comes the fact that someday you will have to put up with your decision to become Bill's b*tch, And you will have to put up and shut up because what choice do you have when your a windows user.

Have a Very Nice Day!

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Go buy a PC....Get off this forum. I love it when Mac users threaten to buy PCs when Apple does something they don't like. Has your base station done everything that Apple said it was originally supposted to do? Then STFU! WWWAaaaaa MY BASE STATION DOESN'T SUPPORT A PROTOCAL THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED TO ALLOW ME TO RUN PROGRAMS THAT DON'T EXIST. APPLE SUX CAUSE I'M A BRAINLESS TWIT. Do you think it's any better on the other side. My solice comes the fact that someday you will have to put up with your decision to become Bill's b*tch, And you will have to put up and shut up because what choice do you have when your a windows user.

Have a Very Nice Day!

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Graphite still works

The Graphite station still works. It just may not support all of the features.
Just like an older ATI video card, it still works but won't support Quartz Extreme.
Really, do some research before getting upset...

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!?

The last graphits are not older than a year!
Can't I expect that such a product is suported more than a year???
This sucks... I want a new Mac, but if my base will not work properly with Jaguar.... Can't spend my money on a new base too...

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RE:Blow Me Apple

Go buy a PC....Get off this forum. I love it when Mac users threaten to buy PCs when Apple does something they don't like. Has your base station done everything that Apple said it was originally supposted to do? Then STFU! WWWAaaaaa MY BASE STATION DOESN'T SUPPORT A PROTOCAL THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED TO ALLOW ME TO RUN PROGRAMS THAT DON'T EXIST. APPLE SUX CAUSE I'M A BRAINLESS TWIT. Do you think it's any better on the other side. My solice comes the fact that someday you will have to put up with your decision to become Bill's b*tch, And you will have to put up and shut up because what choice do you have when your a windows user.

Have a Very Nice Day!

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Chill people

This article, like so many on this site latly, is a giant piece of flame bait. Your graphite base station is a glorified wireless access point. the only limitation that it has....and it was no secret when you purchased it...is that it is not the most secure access point that money can buy. When you dropped the coin for it you traded ease of use and style for better encription. 95% of people using base stations are using them to go wireless with a single laptop or to share an internet connection at home between multiple machines. Your graphite base station will continue to do exactly that...as well as it did before, with Airport 4.0.6 and OS X 10.2. Apple has not made them obsolete. Rendezous is a technology that alows devices to find each other across networks. IMHO all I think Apple is doing is trying to make the base station easier for the end user to set up. How this cuts you angry people out of the loop is beyond me. If you can find documentation to back up your flames I'd love to see the links. For the time being please stop worrying this is progress....not planned obsolesence.

Peace

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Yo, Go Buy a PC guy

We understood the first time, man. Sheesh.

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Re: Chill people

Your graphite base station is a glorified wireless access point. the only limitation that it has....and it was no secret when you purchased it...is that it is not the most secure access point that money can buy.

First off, from the way it sounds, no WAP is all that secure, even those with 128-bit encryption. And that the 128-bit WAPs were just as easy to break (not needing mucho more time). Just because it has 40-bit didn't make it horrifyingly open vs. than others.

Secondly, security talk is a wonderful concept. But truth be told, most people who set these things up (Base Station or other make) don't change the defaults and don't set up encryption or any other type of security. They leave them wide open. So who cares if its 40 or 128 or whatever bit security if you don't turn it on.

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Go Buy a PC Man

And you STFU, too. How many postings do you have to create? Why don't you also go buy a PC while you're at it.

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FUD

The Graphite basestation supports Rendezvous to the extend that every device behind the basestation can communicate with each other. If you have all your machines getting 10.0.1.x IPs from the basestation, Rendezvous will work just fine. If you have the graphite basestation functioning as a transparent bridge with routing being handled by an external router, then it will also work with rendezvous for all devices on that side of the router.

The problem is having rendezvous play nice with internal (10.0.1.x) and external networks.

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an apology

1st off that was a nasty post that shouldn't have been written. 2ndly I don't know how I managed to post 3 times. I'm the twit. However, It upsets me to no end to listen to people whine about how they feel slighted by Apple. I don't get what the problem is here. I own a graphite base station and I'm using it with a developer's build of Jaguar and have no issues. Rendezvous communicates over IP using standard equiptment (hubs, switches, routers). The firmware may allow base stations to be auto detected and configured, which for a large portion of the user base who doesn't care to know anything about how their machine works will be a nice touch. My guess is that you've all managed to configure yours. so as to how it's going to render our base stations obsolete, I have no clue. I've had my base station for close to 2 years, it's still a viable piece of hardware. Apple had to upgrade it eventually, h*** they've released countless firmware updates for the thing. I think that Apple is doing an awsome job I bought one of the orignial iPods right when it was released. I've upgraded the features twice and it looks like shortly I will again. I'm not pissed at Sony for not adding features to my minidisc player when newer models were released, is does what I bought it to do. My base station does what I bought it to do also, and will continue to do it with Jag. I can't fault Apple for not giving me somthing I didn't pay for. Apple has worked round the clock patching OS X and yet people are complaining about paying for the 10.2 update. They are a small company doing a great job. MS is a monilith that doesn't care what the end user experience is like. Their support is abysmal and they know that 95% of the population doesn't think they have a choice. They like it that way. What motivation do they have to make it better. You want to switch to windows because your base station doesn't support rendezvous? Windows doesn't either. I'd think twice about making the switch.

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To the GED class of 2002

For all you whining about your Graphite Base Stations "being left behind," did you ever bother to think about the possibility that the reason this firmware update is Dual-Ethernet-specific, might have something to do with
a) the 802.11b protocol that only the 2.0 Base Stations support...
b) the fact that the Dual-Ethernet Base Station has 2 ethernet ports, which talk to each other...
c) the fact that your Graphite Base Station has been EOL'd for some time...

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Graphite works with VPN

After much investigation, i got my graphite Airport updated to a new firmware that allows the GRE protocols and VPN access...
You have to update the firmware using the firmware from a RG-1000 ORINOCO router which is basically the same as the Airport's hardware.
you can get the firmware .bins from: http://vilos.com/rg1000/
the one to get is RG1.x390.bin

However, after you update the firmware you can't use apple's airport admin utility. You need to get a java program called Configurator from http://gicl.mcs.drexel.edu/sevy/airport

reconfig the airport from this utility and you should be set to go.. good luck!

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updated 12:45 pm EDT, Tue August 6, 2002

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