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.Mac transition woes

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The transition to Apple's new .Mac email/Web service may be off to a shaky start, as several .Mac trial users and subscribers describe problems with the service. Some Apple Discussion Forum members note that Webmail has stopped working for their respective accounts, while several others report mail server errors. A MacNN reader wrote Sunday that 10-15 messages had disappaeared from his temporary iTools account, despite being far short of the 5MB limit.

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07/22, 11:49am | report spam | close Reply |
No dice

I think this may be caused from them switching servers or something, anyway you slice it this is not ok and for $100 a year I would demand a refund for any down time.

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07/22, 12:01pm | report spam | close Reply |
.Mac doesn't fly with me

Last night I tried to download MY IMPORTANT BACK UP FILES files from my iDisk and they WERE NOT THERE! THEY WERE GONE. iDisk couldn't find them and I have yet to see them! Not the kind of back up system I want! Not worth a penny to me!

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07/22, 12:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
.c***

i wish them lots and lots of trouble.

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07/22, 12:06pm | report spam | close Reply |
Completely Down

And now WebMail appears to be completely down. Hopefully, they are just switching things over and it'll be back up soon.

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07/22, 12:14pm | report spam | close Reply |
THANKS

Perhaps a little message on the webmail website would have been nice if they are indeed switching things over. If not, bad timing for the service to go down. Either way it sucks.

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07/22, 12:17pm | report spam | close Reply |
pathetic

I bet it costs Apple a whole lot more to stream or host those lame a** QuickTime trailers for movies I care nothing about.

To top it off, there are system outages for such an expensive service?

What were they thinking?

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07/22, 12:57pm | report spam | close Reply |
It's 1pm ET

It's 1pm Eastern Time - do you know where you .mac email is????

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07/22, 12:58pm | report spam | close Reply |
Whiny selfish brats!

Show me an ISP that has never had any downtime and I'll apologize.

For now, stop acting like a bunch of spoiled whiny brats. Transitions will have glitches, and every ISP, online service, etc. has had downtime - don't be ignorant. And for the person who wanted his money back - Gee, $8.33 a month, and it's been down less than a day - where should Apple mail your quarter?

People buy a couple of Macs and expect Apple to be their slaves forever. I don't understand it.

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07/22, 01:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
FU Apple

I'm not only mad about email, but about the fact that you can no longer share photos online with iPhoto unless you know how to publish to your own web host. In other words, people like my mother can no longer share photos online, when the service was one of the biggest reasons she liked using a Mac. Now I have to explain why she can't do it anymore. FU Apple.

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07/22, 01:23pm | report spam | close Reply |
then don't subscribe

i paid up for a year and it's been 100% ok so far. oh, and it's not $99, it's $49. i figure i have given thousands of dollars to the cable company and that service is c***. if there are some transitional growing pains, then i'll live. when you really do the math, .mac is not too bad. the software you get, the email, web storage, the other stuff all ads up. you get tech support included. to some people that's probably worth the $49 alone. i am one person that would do better if i could pick the little bits of the service i want, but that's not how it works. Apple has said they will be adding services and features to .mac as time goes on. the revenue generated will be put back into the project.
even if Apple says 10% stay on, that's a standard now for web services going from free to pay. actually 10% is considered success. it's a misleading number because it seems a lot of people were hording .mac accounts. so say i had 10, eve if i see it as a good deal i probably won't sign up 10 accounts (though you can add 10 email addresses to one account for $10 each). my mac.com mail has save me in the last year. i went through a phase where my crappy DSL provider blocked access to smtp servers unless they hosted your domain (i can't afford that, it's a no profit site and the budget hosting did not provide smtp). the ONLY email i could send out from was my mac.com. it saved me till the contract was up and we switched to another provider. yahoo now charges for pop3 email. most everyone does. i only use webmail in a pinch (but i like the option). personally i won't really be able to judge .mac till 10.2 is shipping and i really get to take it for a spin. for now i figure giving Apple and .mac another $50 is a good investment in something i like to use. if you can't afford it, then don't pay. i don't have money to throw away (or i would have a new machine), but i can justify trying it out for a year at least, and i will be pre-ordering 10.2 this week. after the 10.2 demo at MWNYC i am very psyched to use it.

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re: Whiny

man...i have worked with several web hosts...cheap and expensive. If my data EVER dissappeared or if the service was down without notice then I would immediatly move my data and money to someone who could do the job right.

I have created many sites that have had way less than one percent of downtime with the servers on which they reside. That is how a well managed service works.

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07/22, 01:28pm | report spam | close Reply |
it does cost $99 a year

.mac does cost $99 per year. If you have used iTools, then you get a special discount for $49 for the first year, but trust me, Apple will charge you $99 next year...

h***, it may even go up, since Apple only expects to retain only 10% of current iTools users...

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07/22, 01:32pm | report spam | close Reply |
.mac mail is working...

I was using .mac mail all day here at Hong Kong and so far no down time today... I register iTool for more then 1 years the only really down time was when they try to introduce the web version of iTooll mail... yes there was some down time but in my experance with iTool is nothing major it come back within 1 or 2 hours... for a free service I think Apple did a better job then my ISP where I pay a lot for my DSL line and email... I have one time that my ISP email was down for more then 1/2 a day, lucky that I have iTool. I was still able to send email... iTool was great cause, I never seen any free email service that give you POP, IMAP and SMTP... From what I know most of the free email service like yahoo and hotmail doesn't give you SMTP or POP. You have to pay to get that kind of service. Anyway iTool is a great service to have for free and now .mac with its pay service will hopfully be even better. Is too early to jug how good or bad .mac is right now. We have 70 days to make sure it is right for you, which I think is more then enough. iCal and iSync are great and I don't see any free App that are even come close from the other side.

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07/22, 01:43pm | report spam | close Reply |
re:FU Apple

Get over it. If mommy can't learn new things, then how did she get with the Mac to begin with? Publishing your photos to a web host is very simple and can be explained in about 3 minutes. If she's got memory problems, try writing the steps out in order. My mom is 86, and has no problem "adapting" to new methods for enhancing her web experience. My mom also understands that real "business" can't give away free things forever, otherwise they won't be in business.

Further, if this 'service' is so valuable to mommy, try kicking down the $8.33 per month so that mommy can keep the ease of photo publishing. If this isn't possible, then I assume the service wasn't a real "value" to mommy. Either way, it's moving to a pay service, and you can whine about that, or help mommy. What are you going to do?

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07/22, 01:47pm | report spam | close Reply |
yahoo e-mail

Yahoo does not charge for e-mail. I have used it for nearly a year. Always works, always is dependable.

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07/22, 01:54pm | report spam | close Reply |
re:FU Apple

From one of the macnn reader "people like my mother can no longer share photos online, when the service was one of the biggest reasons she liked using a Mac. Now I have to explain why she can't do it anymore." --- Well if I were you I will tell you mother that you love her and you have sign up the new .mac service for her and now she can post a lot of potos with her 100MB iDisk and do a lot of other fun things like the free iCal with the Mac that she love so much... be a good son is only 49$ a year.

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whatever

This is a simple case of bait-and-switch.

"Free for life" -- what REALLY happened to that? I can understand the fee for web publishing, iDisk, Virus scan, and the like -- but the e-mail??? I rely on my Mac.Com e-mail address for business and for personal use, and i have for almost two years. Now that i rely on them, they intend to charge me $100 a year to use them??!?!

They can keep all the other services -- all i want is the e-mail address. And for $100 a year, and all i would ever use is the e-mail, they can keep that too.

There are POP3 e-mails out there that are only a few bucks a month -- some are only $10 a year. I'll go that route, i guess.

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It works flawlessly.

I up'd my iTools this morning for $49, and converted my wife's account to E-MAIL ONLY for an additional $10. Everything works seamlessly. For the price of the anti-virus software alone, it's paid for itself.

To those whiners, get a life. And as long as you're here, I'll make you feel at home: WAAAHHHH! WAAHH! WAAAHHHHHHHH!

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It works flawlessly.

I up'd my iTools this morning for $49, and converted my wife's account to E-MAIL ONLY for an additional $10. Everything works seamlessly. For the price of the anti-virus software alone, it's paid for itself.

To those whiners, get a life. And as long as you're here, I'll make you feel at home: WAAAHHHH! WAAHH! WAAAHHHHHHHH!

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re:then don't subscribe

you paid for that? your dumb!

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Double Post

apologies....

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Who's dumb?

It's spelled "you're", not "your".

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re:yahoo e-mail

the web base email is still free, but if you want POP mail service you then need to pay up now.

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07/22, 02:16pm | report spam | close Reply |
not only web mail

even pop3 has problem now

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plz dont whine!

just give your business to someone who wants it.

http://www.powweb.com/

apple, does not want your business. they do not want bottom feeders, deal seekers, low price gluttons. they want professionsals, they want solid middle class, they want those that shop at the GAP. If you spend without warrant, get your car repaired at the dealer, drink down only the finest whine, and believe in serveys stating mac users are a dime above the rest, then APPLE WANTS YOU!

Plz do not whine. apple has obviously stated by thier actions they would not like you as part of thier elite. plz do us all a favour and fade to black.

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re: whatever

They had an excerpt from the iTools EULA on Macfixit today. If you have a mac.com email address you did agree to this, so stop whining and pay or use another free service:

"Apple may change, suspend or discontinue any (or all) aspects of iTools at any time, including the availability of any iTools feature or content. Apple may also impose limits on the use of or access to certain features or portions of iTools, including a charge for or imposition of a subscription or other fee for use of iTools or any part or feature of iTools, or restrict your access to any part or all of iTools, in all cases without notice or liability."

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re:not only web mail

My .mac mail is working find both web and POP... I just send a email out from mail app and got a new mail from my .mac mail. is fine all day for me.

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Re: yahoo e-mail

Yahoo does not charge for e-mail. I have used it for nearly a year. Always works, always is dependable.

Yeah, but you can't download it to your computer, and every message that goes out has some blasted "Do you Yahoo" thing at the bottom hawing yahoo or messenger or some other thing. Same with Hotmail. And reading on several websites (Macintouch for one), Yahoo is now CHANGING your email content because parts of it MIGHT be a virus. So what's worse. Apple's "spam-deletion", which could not send entire emails, or Yahoo's "change content and meaning" way of things?

Now for a nominal fee you can get POP access and no advertising (why Apple won't do this, I don't know, but I'm sure even if they did, people would still want it for free, because, well, damnit, it once was free).

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www.fastmail.fm

Mail. Free. Fast.

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$100 not cheap? Grow up!

One day people will have to realize that the internet is not a free ride. Telephone services, Cable, Roadrunner, DSL and electricity are not free. In the good old days Comupserve cost $12 an hour for a 1200-9600 bps connection. So if you think about it $100 a year for web hosting email and untold future services ain't that bad. If you think it is not worth it then don't use it. Otherwise save your lunch money and get an account becuase the last time I checked you only get what you pay for.

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re: www.fastmail.fm

> Mail. Free. Fast.

Either won't be there a year from now, or will be charging.

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well..

I could understand where people are coming from with the 'high' rates:

ISP (Cable/Dsl) = $40/month which includes email and usually a few megs storage etc..

iTools - $8.33/month which is kind of an unneccesary fee being that your ISP usually gives you email and a few goodies.

So..If your using iTools for email only, it is probably overpriced for you. If you want to use all the other goodies, like anti-virus software, backup, iSync 2 computers, and need more storage, then 8.33 a month is a bargain. I am a geek i love those cool features - so I have no problem dishing out 8 bucks a month for some cool toys to play with.

BTW - my mac.com email has been up and running all day for me.

jparisi@mac.com

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Why Complain

Why complain about it, if you do not like what Apple/Jobs is doing, don't buy his service. There is no ball and chain around your foot and the internet is never going to be free. Apple is expecting only about 10% of the current itools customers to switch to .mac so they problably won't care about your complaints ( I have read that the apple web tech are very busy deleting complaining emails at the moment). As for me, I use the Homepage and idisk and the cost of time saved by using it is worth the 100 bucks or so.

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Loyal Customers..

Loyal Customers DESERVE a Loyal Company. Simply put... this is the heart of the matter. If Apple wants more marketshare

1) Lead by example. Treat you loyal mac buying BASE as well as they have treated you. If they want my business.. lead by example.

2) Advertising on Rush would generate more cashflow and expand marketshare several points so they could treat the base with respect.

My two cents.

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free cocain!

ok, now that you are addict, pay me.

it's the exact same freakin thing. they gave me an email adress. i gave that email adress to EVERYONE. now, what should i do? pay 150$ canadian just so i can have my email?? I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR A FREAKIN EMAIL ADRESS.

everyone i know, everyone i've met, everyone with my business card will email me there, all the mailing list i've subscribe has the mail adress.

because i change often of isp, i didn't want to change email all the time because of all the trouble. so, when they GAVE this to me, i tought it was a wonderfull idea and loved it.

now that you are addicted to it, pay???? sounds more like microsoft than apple to me.

i'm starting to hate that company a LOT lately.

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re: Loyal

DAMN RIGHT

You apple a** kissers out there who act like people complaining about this dot mac c*** are ignorant morons need to grow up. Take off the thick rimmed glasses, brush your teeth, and take a shower. Apple is a tiny, tiny niche market. It has only managed to survive because of the utter loyalty of the majority of its users, who despite having more difficulty in obtaining software, despite spending 3 or 4 times as much money for a Mac as a decent PC system, stick with Apple because they love and support the platform.

Apple seems to repay these people by sc#$$ing them in every hole they have. If Apple cannot afford the full iTools service then offer a basic free service for the majority (email, maybe some webspace for small websites and photos) and then have the pay for service for all the snobby Mac Zeolots out there.

This, Jaguar (129? didnt I just spend that on the same OS afew months back?) and the still high prices / low power of the hardware are making the dark side of M$ look awfully tempting, after all, if we're going to be screwed for monthly OS updates and service fees we may as well as save 2000 bucks when buying the hardware.

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To the "early adopters"

...I'm intrigued .... why did you do it?
Jaguar isn't even out yet and a lot of .mac's bundled "services" don't even work without it! Will you get a full year after Sept. 30th, or from purchase date-forward?

Who needs "Backup" when you use a modem?

For that matter, who needs most of .Mac's "services" when I just purchased Virex & am still using OS 9 as primary OS due to pro audio?

Apple, listen to your users, I've been one since the //e in 1983. They are screaming for FREE EMAIL! At LEAST reduce the price. This is terribly used-car salesman-like; you want a Toyota but they wont let you leave until you've purchased the BMW. Disgusting. And that little quip from Jobs about "following Microsoft on .Net" is downright scary.

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not to mention

they lured us in promising it was free for life....what a load of BS....

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Re: Whiny selfish brats!

Hey I can buy unlimited nation wide dialup with 3 free e-mail accounts and free webhosting for the same price. so why would I want to pay the same and get just e-mail. Also who is so desprate for anti-vrius software I don't think their are any for os X?

Lisa: this rock keeps tigers away
Homer: how much will you sell it to me for?
Lisa: It dosen't do anything
Homer: I buy it for $20

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Extortion

Yes, people who say "Apple should give me a whole bunch of stuff for free" are unrealistic whiners. But it is _not_ whining to say that Apple is acting unethically by forcing people to pay $100/year (and yes, that is what it costs, except for the first year) to pay for an email address that Apple said would be free. Note that I said "unethical", not "illegal", although that may yet be decided in court. What really pushes it over the line is that even if Apple does have to charge for that service (which, I remind you, they said would be free), $100/year is totally unreasonable to charge just for email. Fine, charge me $15/year for email, and maybe I'll choose to sign up for additional services too, but the current pricing system is simply extortion: Apple knows it will take me a couple of hours to re-register at all the web sites where I've used my mac.com address, and to contact all of my friends (repeatedly, if the past is any guide). They figure I'd rather pay up than go to the hassle. Is it legal? I guess so. Is it ethical? Absolutely not. With one decision, they've convinced me to treat them like I treat Microsoft: use them as little as possible, never trust anything they say, and avoid their products if there is an acceptable substitute from another company. From "I love Apple" to "Apple Sucks" in a single day. (And, by the way, it's only a few months ago that I switched _to_ Apple both at home and at work, happy to be rid of Microsoft. I guess next time I'll go to Linux.)

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Wha wha wha

Why does't Apple just give you whiners free computers. I mean, you make it sound like Apple owes you something, why whine about a service, whine about why you are not getting free computers. Free-loaders, I bet you people take big bags to conventions and pick up all of the free c*** that the booths give out.

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RE:Wha wha wha

if they would have told me before that i would have to pay for an email adress, I WOULD HAVE NOT TAKE IT. but now, it looks like i don't have a choice.

IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND? i don't care about the stupid price, it's just that everyone has my email adress that they GAVE ME FOR FREE and now that i'm use to it, they want my money or i can kiss it goodbye.

it's a very cheap way of getting people buy your product.

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re: Wha What

You dill.

Apple DOES owe us something. If I buy a BMW then you can be damn sure that BMW OWES me a decent return on my investment. If a factor of buying a car is that it comes with unbeatable 6 year service and warrenty, then they OWE me that. BMW couldnt turn around a year later and say to me "Oh well we know you spent 100,000 on the car, and we promised X , Y and Z, as part of the deal, but you know, costs are costs and now you have to pay for it"

When I spend 2 or 3 times as much money on an Apple then a PC, DAMN RIGHT THEY OWE ME SOMETHING. They owe me a product that meets the promises provided. If someone (and I know two clients with this case) buy an iMac for 3 times the price of a comparable (albiet FASTER) PC, because they are told of the software and net services provided by Apple, then Apple OWES THEM what it promised as a service.

If Apple doesnt, if Apple turns around to these people and says well well well no. Now we're charging. then where is all that extra money going to? When I buy a PC its a fraction of the price, and comes bundled with the OS and a suite of software, perhaps not as nice, but its still usable. Where is that extra 1000-2000 dollars going?

Apple owes all of its customers quality products and services, and the day it stops providing that, is the day they see their market share drop even further into oblivion.

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Codependence

I find myself checking this site daily lately --today's post seems apropos...

http://www.crazyapplerumors.com

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EarthLink & .Mac

EarthLink announced today that any customer who signed up with EarthLink using Apple's online registration server, before July 17th, will get to keep the @mac.com e-mail address they received during the signup, for free, for life! They will also be able to use all existing iTools services, for free, for life.

They may choose to upgrade to a new .Mac address and gain the additional services for the normal price of $100 a year, however if they want to keep their e-mail address and basic "old-school" iTools services, they'll be able to do so for free, for life.

I think this is great of Apple and EarthLink to do. Thanks!

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RE: Wha What

First of all, if you have to insult to get your point across, it proves your ignorance.

Second, do you whine to BMW because they won't pay for the gas that goes in your car? I don't know where you came from, but you must not realize that it's not free; you purchase that warranty for your car.

Third, you're right. "Apple owes all of its customers quality products and services." They are providing it; you just don't like that now you have to spend money on it instead of being handed everything in life. To go along with your BMW example, maybe Apple should charge $100 more for their computers and include a "Free" year of .Mac.

Please go buy your ("Faster" [clock speed]) PC and then sign up for .Net, last I checked, to get the same things on a PC that are on the iMac, they cost about the same.

When I purchased my PowerBook, I got a "Free" CD-Burner, but a week later, the price of the PB's went down $400 and they canceled the free burner.

I never bough my Apple because of the "Free c***" that is "Promised." I recognized that these extra services are there for the taking. I never had to sign up for an iTools account if I didn't want to.

Didn't anyone teach you that nothing is free.

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At the end of the day

It's disappointing that Apple have charged $100usd for this service, regardless of what appetizers they put with it, it is over priced.
I think this is the beginning of pay per use software that we will all have to suffer if we want the latest OS and features. ie bundled apps that can only be fully utilized if used with something like .mac
I hoped Apple wouldn't take this path, but my hopes have been dashed.

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Legal Agreement

Have you guys actually read the legal agreement for .Mac? According to it they can at any time add features and charge your card for them...Without notifying you that they are charging more to your card....This is why I will not sign up for it.

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.macRefuge beats .mac

Looks like the guys at .macRefuge are offering a great deal for former iTools subscribers. They have twice the disk space (200MB instead of 100MB) plus a 50MB web/POP emailbox (vs 15MB from Apple), with 10 emailboxes, for the same $49 Apple is asking for. Plus you can get your own domain name for free. They have been around since 1995, which means a lot in today's web world. Also they already host several Mac sites (check under Links).

Glad someone is giving .mac some good competition. Check it out at:

http://www.macRefuge.com

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