Creative Industry to Blam

Boy, who couldn't see this coming months ago? NOBODY in the creative industry, the ones who typically buy PowerMacs, are buying when iMacs are shipping with G4 chips and an LCD for a thousand bucks less than a stupid tower. PowerMacs are a RIP OFF right now, and Apple really needs a jolt here to get creatives buying.

Agreed

My company, an entertainment marketing company, has just moved the entire creative staff to Dell machines. I had to fight just to keep my old G4 450, and the only reason I could is because I need to make Mac versionds of Director applications. Big shops are NOT moving to new pro Macs at current prices; Mac people do not control the money. We're screwed.

Agreed

My company, an entertainment marketing company, has just moved the entire creative staff to Dell machines. I had to fight just to keep my old G4 450, and the only reason I could is because I need to make Mac versionds of Director applications. Big shops are NOT moving to new pro Macs at current prices; Mac people do not control the money. We're screwed.

Huh...?

"creatives" are such a small part of the pie, that if Apple sticks to catering to them, or even putting them high on the consideration list with product, then you will see more than earnings warnings. Apple WILL NOT survive on feeding off its niche. I disagree with your comment 100%. Apple is doing the right thing, and is STILL relatively strong given the climate. We could bugger every "creative" on the planet and YE_HAW! , Apple will still, STILL be at under 10% market share, or even 5%. THE KEY WORD IS MARKET SHARE. Nobody's kicking a$$ right now, get it?

I'm not even going to start on this subject.

wrong...

Re: Huh...?

""creatives" are such a small part of the pie, that if Apple sticks to catering to them, or even putting them high on the consideration list with product, then you will see more than earnings warnings."

Catering to creatives? Nonsense. What's good for "creatives" is good for everyone.

wrong...

Re: Huh...?

""creatives" are such a small part of the pie, that if Apple sticks to catering to them, or even putting them high on the consideration list with product, then you will see more than earnings warnings."

Catering to creatives? Nonsense. What's good for "creatives" is good for everyone.

c***!

Damn, Apple's missing revenue targets! I guess its time for me to sell my Mac and get a Dell machine!!! Probably should dump my stock (ha!, if I only I heeded the warnings of all those Apple folks selling off). Let's start the "Apple goes bankrupt!" countdown now. I give them three months, tops...

if true

he Walt Disney Company, the doyen of animation studios, is joining Hollywood's embrace of a technological upstart — the GNU Linux operating system.

Disney's animation division is announcing today that it plans to use Hewlett-Packard workstations and data-serving computers running Linux for digital animation work in the future.

The Disney move is the latest commitment by major studios and special-effects houses — including DreamWorks SKG, Pixar Animation Studios, Industrial Light and Magic and Digital Domain — to Linux, which is a variant of the Unix operating system that is distributed free and under terms that allow programmers to fine-tune the software.

if this is true, why doesn't pixar buy some macs and put steve's money where his mouth is? Just wondering....(clip was taken from nytimes today.)

Sell!!

Before the stock tanks tomorrow!!

so me buying an iMac

didn't save the company...

Creatives

Are important, probably one of the two,most important markets for Apple you fool. Not just some tiny niche. Until Apple actually has some half decent market share they better not continue with the low power and expensive hardware, or theyre going to be in a world of hurt.

And even non creative types who want or need more power than an iMac are not buying Powermacs because of their heavy price tag. Apple is s******* itself, if their displayless towers sold for only 100 bucks more than a complete 2ghz Dell with lcd display they may see an increase, but they really need to get their c*** together.

Re: so me buying an iMac

didn't save the company...

AN iMac? AN iMac? Are you trying to say you only bought one????? What the h*** were you thinking. Get back to the Apple Store and buy a couple of dozen! What are you trying to do, drive me to the poor house??? I need that prioce to get back up over 50, the sooner the better!

Creatives

Are important, probably one of the two,most important markets for Apple you fool. Not just some tiny niche. Until Apple actually has some half decent market share they better not continue with the low power and expensive hardware, or theyre going to be in a world of hurt.

And even non creative types who want or need more power than an iMac are not buying Powermacs because of their heavy price tag. Apple is s******* itself, if their displayless towers sold for only 100 bucks more than a complete 2ghz Dell with lcd display they may see an increase, but they really need to get their c*** together.

Pro Mac line

I and many people I know who are reading to update our first generation PowerMac are waiting for the next generation. If Apple delivers at MWNY, this drop in sales will be a short-lived phenomenon.

People who buy a PowerMac in the next month will probably see it age more in 1 month than the next one will age in 1 year.

Apple also stated that their gross margins were high, this means that they handled the slowdown in demand well and have not had to unduly lower prices to move those boxes.

Hey

Hey first off stop hitting the back button after posting. It causes double posting.

Second off didn't we see all those insiders selling prior to this? Hmmmmm

Trade-Offs

It's been said more than once that the only things Apple can do to increase it's market share would certainly cause them to take a [temporary] hit in profits. They are talking a lot more recently about that other 95% than they ever have in the past and with the Xserve they are looking at markets they've never touched before. So this profit warning might not be all that bad.

Re: Trade-Offs

I don't think the slow down we're seeing right now has much at all to do with the Xserve. The only positive here is that other companies are warning just as Apple is. However, we cannot simply ignore the giant elephant sitting here - the towers stink. Unless Apple has something GOOD to give us at MWNY, tower sales will continue to stink, rightfully I might add.

not surprised

I have a blue and white g3 350. I just could not pony up for a 1 ghz tower. So, I went out and spent a couple hundred bucks and got a processor upgrade. Now my blue and white g3 is a g4 500. If the apple towers were compelling I would have purchased one. But I am waiting for the real deal and I do not want a half baked box.

I think Apple has exucted well with xserve and the new imac. QT 6 is ready but other forces are delaying that effort. OS X works pretty well for me but could be faster. ( I'm not upgrading because os X is slow ) Considering the market they appear to be doing well except for this tower issue.

Well, Apple is not in the dire situation that gateway is in!

And by the way this message board does not work with Mozilla! ( so fix it or get layed off )

Pro Mac line

I and many people I know who are reading to update our first generation PowerMac are waiting for the next generation. If Apple delivers at MWNY, this drop in sales will be a short-lived phenomenon.

People who buy a PowerMac in the next month will probably see it age more in 1 month than the next one will age in 1 year.

Apple also stated that their gross margins were high, this means that they handled the slowdown in demand well and have not had to unduly lower prices to move those boxes.

Back to Reality?

So Apple says "sorry we didn't make AS MUCH AS WE EXPECTED (but we still made a profit)" and this is bad news? In an economy where the beloved Dell is losing how much?

Feel sorry for the guy whose company bought Dells. They'll quickly learn the true meaning of buzzwords like "productivity drain", "workflow difficulties" and "total cost of ownership".

Now Disney is moving from SGI systems to Linux... please tell me again, how this is a bad thing for Apple?

Now, it is true that the towers need to be updated, but the iMac is brilliant and Apple still has the best portables on the planet. Life is good (compared to the competition). If only the analysts could open their eyes.

tonton

Yeah

Yeah iMac and eMac are both great.
Towers are lackluster. So what dual 1Ghz chips. They need to improve the motherboards greatly. While Mac OS X can be said to be great improvements which is a result of competition. Apples hardware seems to be the exact opposite. When the G4s first came out Apple had the speed and horsepower advantage. Both Motorola and Apple dropped the ball after that.

Pentium 4 are above 2Ghz in processor speed. Regardless of the efficiencies of the PPC chip speed will over come that. Now if Apple had 1.8Ghz chips in their machines I would not complain and I would have reason to upgrade my G4 400.
If nothing groundbreaking comes out this macworld then powerlogix gets my money for a G4 800 or G4 1Ghz upgrade as well as some RAM. I need more than speed bumps and partial DDR implementations.

As a digital video person I can't even transfer video from a camcorder to an external drive to to some problem with the firewire bus on the machine. Apple hit the hardware and hit it hard. Then OS X and all the iApps will be the thing to lust after.