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Jobs: 'less ideological and more practical'

updated 10:00 am EDT, Wed June 5, 2002

 
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AnchorDesk's David Coursey writes about the irony in yesterday's CRT-based eMac announcement: "That announcement made business sense, in that it gave Apple a lower-priced hardware platform. It also made Steve's report of the CRT's demise just a tad premature...But while some people will consider the eMac announcement a major policy reversal, I just think it's further evidence that Steve has become less ideological and more practical."


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    It's about time they got more practical. Now, how about machines that are so great, so fast, so wonderful, have the expandability like extra 5.25" slots, firewire2, USB2, DDR Ram that really works (only give an 8% performance on most windows machines - Apple give us this and slam the windows world into the ground) and way more innovation so it means something wonderful to be on a Mac!

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    e != education

    Apple today announced retail availability of its recently introduced eMac. Citing "strong consumer demand,"

    That's BS. The only reason they are selling it to the general public is that it's not doing well in the education market. They need to make the $. It is funny though how it turned out.

    So how are they going to explain the "e" in eMac. It was original for eduation. Maybe it's now: eMac = a Mac for Everyone!

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    Re: e !=education

    The eMac is not doing well in the education Market?

    Where are your numbers? Do not assume that. I work in the educational market in IT and I'll say that from what I've seen the eMac is doing quite well in that market. There has been a considerable demand for the eMac by the general public.

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    Practical matters

    They started selling it to the rest of us when (1) they saw the demand and (2) they had the supply ready. The education ploy was a good trial balloon. They should have done something like this with the cube, and it wouldn't have seemed like a disaster. Remember - a disaster in Apple terms is usually when you sell as many as you originally estimated. It is far too early to see if it is living up to the education market purchases they envisioned. Due to education fiscal years, schools have their new money to spend after July 1, they get and install machines often by late summer, but every district is different in how they keep and use tech people for this sort of thing.

    Also, can we stop with the constant berating of every one of the targeted machines they come out with? "No LCD" "No floppy", "No DVD", "Only 3 real USB" "No gaming video", "No burner", "Only 128MB" No one machine is going to make everybody happy - that's why there are several level of a decent number of models. Predicting their demise because the latest release is not your cup of tea is becoming an Olympic sport around these fora... chill.

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    Re: e !=education

    "That's BS. The only reason they are selling it to the general public is that it's not doing well in the education market. They need to make the $. It is funny though how it turned out"

    Uh, as far as I could see, there IS/WAS a VERY large demand for these computers in the general public. Heck, even I wanted one for the "rest of my family" ;^)

    You have no numbers of low edu sales, you seem to be going by some random rumour ...

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    Re: e !=education

    until we see numbers we won't know how it is doing in the edu market. Jobs explanation was that production came up to speed faster than thought. that's quite possible. the LCD iMac hit a production snag with the arm and required some production line reworking. if the eMac was trouble free, they could be cranking them out. the fact that the release was so public would make you assume they were going to release it to the pubil at some point. i think they wanted to be sure they could fill the educational market demands first. school orders should be in by now for the fall so they know what they need to make. better to hold off on the public sales then have everyone on extended backorder. i'm going to think they are selling ok to schools, otherwise they would have released the CD-rom only version to the public (i'm sure it's coming) as well as the CD-RW version. i'll also bet we see a DVD player option sometime in the next few months. the iMac (G3 and G4) as well as the ibook have had CD-Rom only versions. i guess if this was the old days they would have renamed it for public use, but i guess to keep it all straight they'll not be calling it iMac (at least not till the 15" CRT iMac is gone?). too bad the 15" CRT iMac is the last Mac without a fan (eMac has a fan).... though from what i understand they are using variable speed fans these days in most machines so it's as quiet as possible.

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    "That's BS. The only reason they are selling it to the general public is that it's not doing well in the education market. They need to make the $. It is funny though how it turned out."

    Most Education facilities do not even have there budget for next year yet... I work in EDU Technology and I for one does not know of 1 school who has there budget yet. when make a comment like that when you're actually clueless?

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    "That's BS. The only reason they are selling it to the general public is that it's not doing well in the education market. They need to make the $. It is funny though how it turned out."

    Most Education facilities do not even have there budget for next year yet... I work in EDU Technology and I for one does not know of 1 school who has there budget yet. when make a comment like that when you're actually clueless?

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    the real mac lineup...

    ...for "consumer desktops" from the start of this year, with smooth price/performance transitions, could have been something like:

    iMac 15" CRT 700 MHz G3, 256 MB RAM, 20 GB HD, CD-RW/DVD, $899 ($799 edu, edu-only CD-ROM model for $699)

    iMac 17" CRT (aka eMac) 700 MHz G4, 256 MB RAM, 40 GB-HD, CD-RW/DVD, $1,099 ($999 edu) (stand included)

    iMac II 15" LCD 800 MHz G4, 256 MB RAM, 40 GB HD, CD-RW/DVD, $1,399 ($1,299 edu)

    iMac II 15" LCD 800 MHz G4, 256 MB RAM, 80 GB HD, "superdrive" $1,699 ($1,499 edu to encourage making DVDs)

    With the exception of somewhat more aggressive pricing, this is not significantly different from the effective new lineup, but it would have been better to make the lineup clear from the start for a consistent marketing message.

    Note the 256 MB RAM minimum to ensure good Mac OS X performance - Apple/NeXT historically made the mistake of selling under-configured systems which then generated poor user and reviewer feedback. All systems should have "modern" 32 MB video subsystems for fast OS X and game performance on par with Wintel systems. These kinds of "little details" can make or break the platform in the eyes of consumers when comparing Apples to Wintel systems. Remember - Apple wants to double the customer base by stealing some Wintel sales, not merely rely upon the love and affection of the Mac-faithful. Competing, when possible, on specs and offering aggressive pricing are as potentially important as is the elegance and power of Apple's hardware and software in this battle.





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