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Sony Vaio desktop vs iMac comparison

updated 11:05 am EDT, Tue April 23, 2002

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Sony's Vaio desktop edges out the iMac in Popular Science's latest head-to-head computer shootout: "Both systems deliver on the digital hub claim. If price were no object, which would I rather have in my home? The Sony, because it's a better-rounded system for the digital content that matters to me."

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Nuts to that

I wonder how closely this guy actually used the different software bundled with the hardware for the Sony and the Mac. I've used a number of Vaios, and I've always thought that while the hardware is sometimes quite impressive, the software bundles have been just awful. Especially compared to what you get on a Mac with iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, etc.

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04/23, 11:23am | report spam | close Reply |
$1600

I'm not a photo guy, but I do think iPhoto needs a 2.0 upgrade.

What I noticed was that it was a $3400 Vaio compared to the $1800 iMac. First of all, isn't it a nice change to be the machine that gets almost as many points and costs half as much? That's a big switch for Mac head-to-head reviews.

But... I wonder how it would compare to a pro tower or if you added an iBook? How about if you bought a retail copy of photoshop? A CD label printer? There's a lot you can do to spruce up a system if you have a cool extra $1600 in your pocket, especially since it's currently 40 points to 42 points with the Vaio.

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04/23, 11:25am | report spam | close Reply |
WTF?

Did this guy even USE the iMac? Sounds like a typical Windows drone to me.

How can editing a movie be easier on the Vaio? Ripping a CD? Watching a movie?

This guy doesn't seem to have used the same iApps that I have, or else he would have given the iMac a clear advantage.

Popular Science is for gearhead laymen who equate MHz to p**** size, so I'm not surprised at this review. But it still sucks.

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What?!

The reviewer gives the video editing edge to the Sony because there are more programs available for it, but fails to mention that none of them can hold a candle to iMovie (probably because he never used them). He also mentions the analog-in advantage of the Sony, but you could add that to the iMac for a fraction of the difference of the price between the two.

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Choices

The author likes the fact that the Sony comes bundled with a lot of mediocre apps rather than a few powerful, all-encompassing apps.

This has always been an argument that PC users use to claim superiority..."We have over 200 word processors, etc." It's irrelevant.

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04/23, 11:31am | report spam | close Reply |
$1600

I'm not a photo guy, but I do think iPhoto needs a 2.0 upgrade.

What I noticed was that it was a $3400 Vaio compared to the $1800 iMac. First of all, isn't it a nice change to be the machine that gets almost as many points and costs half as much? That's a big switch for Mac head-to-head reviews.

But... I wonder how it would compare to a pro tower or if you added an iBook? How about if you bought a retail copy of photoshop? A CD label printer? There's a lot you can do to spruce up a system if you have a cool extra $1600 in your pocket, especially since it's currently 40 points to 42 points with the Vaio.

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Sony blows

What a load of horse sh*t... the iMac is half the price and twice the computer. 4 words....
radio tuner
microsoft windows

The f*cking thing is an alarm clock not a computer.

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04/23, 11:48am | report spam | close Reply |
I have both...

The Vaio SUCKS for digital video. You just can't do it with the apps it ships with. Same goes for ripping music. This article talks out of its a**.

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PC Card Slot

the jerk likes a PC Card slot in his vaio.

what would he use it for in a desktop?

come to think, what does anyone use those dumb slots for anyway... except wireless cards.

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04/23, 12:18pm | report spam | close Reply |
Not the same market

Well, let's get the first thing out of the way - $3400 for the Sony versus $1800 for the iMac. I'm sure for that extra $1600 he could buy some fancy speakers to get that sound he wants, plus an external AM/FM/TV rig. Geez.

But the more important underlying theme is this: the magazine is Popular Science. Their market is not people who want to buy something, set it up on 5 minutes, and never futz with it again. They are tweakers and tinkerers. They want to be able to grab to their friends that they have the latest high-end equipment with all the options - even if they'll never use those options.

That's where the Sony continually edged out the iMac in the reviewers mind. Where a consumer would have been confused or annoyed all the plethora of c*** that a Sony system throws at you (how many media players do you need? Image viewers? Editors?), he revelled in it. Where a consumer would have vastly preferred the simple iMac setup - he was able to gloss away the cable-ridden Sony setup because he thought of all the fun he was going to have with it.

Woe be to him when he really starts trying to tweak that Vaio. Say he tries a clean install of XP - then looks for a driver disk for all those nice input options and devices. Whoops! Sony doesn't give you one, nor can you download 'em (used to have a Vaio laptop - I know). Sony only supports re-installs made by reformatting the drive and reinstalling the drive image. Nice for our tinkerer at PopSci, eh?

The Apple is still the computer for "the rest of us". Popular Science, however, is not the magazine for the rest of us.

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If you go through the...

...scoring chart at the end, it seems pretty fair. Let me explain.

Music (Mac:4, PC:5): PCs offer petter sound options. We all know that the Macs sound is a poor cousin to what PCs can have. Its fine for most things but some like higher quality. I would love to see the sound system improved at least on some systems.

Ripping MP3(Mac:4, PC:3): The mac is ahead of the pack here, I would have given a slightly higher score for the mac as I'm not sure this feature CAN be improved.

MP3 to Player(Mac:5, PC:3): The mac is the clear winner here, and he only gave it points using the iPod. What would it have been if he had used one that could be used on bnoth the PC and Mac.

Watching a movie(Mac:3, PC:4): Ever since apple went from hardware playback to software I have heard nothing but complaints about playback. and if you actually read what he said regarding playback, the mac should have gotten a 2.

Edit Movies (Mac:3, PC:4): I'm not sure about this one. If you are to believe what he wrote (I have no reason to disbelieve) than this is at least partially true. The sony gives you more options and can control different aspects the you can't in iMovie. However, I would argue that with a spare $1600, you could purchase final cut and have the best of both worlds at a 600 savings (I would also argue this could increse this rating from 3 to 5, therefore tying the sony, at a $600 savings).

Making a DVD (Mac:5, PC:3): I think we are all in agreement here.

Internet Dial-up (Mac: 4, PC:3): Macs come out ahead here, I'd agree, although I think there is room for improvement.

Dealing with a PDA (Mac:3, PC:4): I'm almost surprised the Mac score this high. With no Mac OS X support its hard to reccomend a Mac to a PDA owner at this time.

Downloading Pictures (Mac:4, PC:4): The ease of iPhoto or the easy of no wires, thats a toss up only an individual can decide.

Touch up Photos (Mac:3, PC:5): I'm not sure I can find real fault here except maybe the PC was scored one too high. iPhoto does not seem very capable here. However you could by Photoshop elements (here's hoping the come out with a Mac OS X version soon) for $99 with all the money saved and get a better produt (give the mac a 5 now incresing it to 42 or 44 if you already used your money on final cut.)

Organizing Photos (Mac:3, PC:4): If you read his comments on this one you might agree here. iPhoto needs to add better search features. Take a little of what iPhoto is know, added extensive search features and add some more photo editing features, youll get a program that could very well be a masterpiece.

Just my 2 cents.

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04/23, 12:24pm | report spam | close Reply |
Video Editing

The only video software the author mentions by name for the Vio is Adobe Premiere ( and I bet it was a cheesy Limited Edition ). Last I checked, this was still available for the mac. Personally, I'd pick up full working copies Final Cut Pro and After Effects for just around the $1600 difference between the two systems.

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Re: If you go through the

Um.. Palm supports Mac OS X last time I checked..

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He listens to Genesis

nuff said.

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"If price were no object

Well, price is ALWAYS an object. The fact is that you can almost buy 2 iMacs for what that Vaio costs. So the Mac finally beats the peecee's price in a comparison and they just discount that. Anyway, maybe with that extra $1600 you could buy back your soul.

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I demand a recount

Ummm I use my Handspring with OS X daily, what's the deal? We'll just take those points back. I'm not even going to touch the editing movies and photos topic, is he insane? Thank you, we'll take those back as well. And at more than half the price? Not to mention superior design. We all know who wins out here. Oy vey.

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WHA WHA WHAT??!!

I'm sitting at my desk nearly having a CORONARY. Every time I see comparisons of Apple computers and PC's, they almost ALWAYS b*tch about how much more money the Apple system costs. Yet now that Apple releases a JEWEL of a system that is also affordable, they have the *#@#ing NERVE to compare it to a 3000+ dollar PC!!!??? In the immortal words of Clark Griswold in the movie, Christmas Vacation, "HALLELUIA, MERRY #*%@ing CHRISTMAS! Where's the Tylenol?"
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04/23, 12:46pm | report spam | close Reply |
Re: He listens to Genesis

I agree! Woot.

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Gotta love it...

It used to be that they could take a cheaper wintel box, compare it to a Mac, and fudge winning results for their machine. Now they have to get MORE EXPENSIVE wintel boxes to put up against Apple products to get a winner.

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PRICE TAG! WOW!

First of all Mac's get ripped all the time because of price. So it takes twice the money to get a pc that equals a mac, now if Macs are over priced what does this say about the pc?
Next I will take my 1600 bucks and buy a DVD camcorder and a PDA.
The software that comes with these devices will equal out that area, then I will beable to work with some video!

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04/23, 01:01pm | report spam | close Reply |
Another Thing About Vaio

I can't speak from personal experience, but I've read on sites about video editing, etc. that apparently the Sony Vaios are awful when it comes to the output quality of video (i.e. you may be able to do fine with editing video, but a lot of people in the industry seem to agree that the video quality is really poor when you export it out of the Vaio).

Hopefully some people will write some good letters to the editor about this.

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Typical review

This is the type of review I'd expect from someone walking into Fry's and s******* with the systems for about half an hour and reading a few brochures.

iMovie vs Movie Shaker (I think that's the Vaio bundled app). iMovie should win hands down. Add in a few cheap third party filter sets, and it should easily beat Movie Shaker for a few bucks (less than $100) more.

iPod aside, the iMac works fine with my Rio500, much better than it ever worked with Windows. At least the Mac doesn't pop up a box griping that I risk crashing the system or data loss if I simply unplug.

There's no real PDA issue, unless the reviewer has an iPaq or other WinCE-based device.

I'm not going to trash the Vaio, because Sony, aside from Apple, seems to "Get it" in regards to an all around useful home PC. An additional $1600 doesn't make up for a radio tuner and TV capabilities.

For the record, in our household of 5, we have: 2 Vaio desktops w/ Premiere, 1 Vaio notebook, 1 Dual-800 G4 w/FCP 3.0, 1 G4 iMac w/iMovie, 1 iBook-Dual USB. All of these machines are trouble-free. The Macs gave the best overall operation in video work. Unlike the PC's, I don't have to think about how to get the Macs to work, they do that on their own. I just concentrate on the editing I have to do. Vaio's work OK, but in a sort of clumsy fashion where capture is separate from the editing utility.

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One thing about Sony . .

that I've always liked was that optical inputs. Other than that the Mac it clearly better.

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Price vs. Features

Of course, if you go to a magazine that CARES about price and value, Consumer Reports, you see reviews that totally ignore the cost of the iMacs vs. PC competitors. The unique MacOS is one strike against Apple's computers because it does not run the same software as other popular PCs.

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Close on Points

I read this comparison last week... what's amazing is that the Sony came out only a few points ahead, despite the large price differential. If you look at the individual categories, the iMac lost points on feartures like image editing, which could have easily been addressed with inexpensive software like GraphicConverter. Had this been taken into account, the iMac would have come out ahead and still cost $1500 or so less.

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Mac

The Mac is for people who are not too smart about computers and those who aren't too smart period. The PC is geared for the smarter individual, one who can do what they want to the system, whether its hardware swapping, or whatever. If the PC's were books, the Mac line would be equal to the line of books that are ___________ for Dummies, which seems to be doing well in this day and age of kid's being poorer in nearly all subjects from math to reading.

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Not too smart guy

Well, I guess I'm just not too smart about them there computers, well guess I should get back to my server administration job before my boss figures out none of us really have any clue what we are doing simply because we use Macs....what idiot pool did you climb from buddy?

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Re: Mac

One word:
TROLL
ok...two more:
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Re: Not too smart guy

lol That was actually kinda funny. Thanks for the laugh.

Anyhow, the Sony's alright, but overdone. Minidisc in a PC -- bleh. The minidisc has a difficult enough time on its own. All in all, the Vaio gives a lot in mostly extra fluff. I have an older Vaio and I don't think I'll be buying another one. Folks, just build your own PC (or have a knowledgeable friend do it).

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SatanWorshipper?

But those are all Mac users... Mac users are Godless Communist Satanists.

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showdown

put an extra $900 of apps, media readers, some speakers, and a $700 firewire tv capture for the mac (you know, even out the playing field).. and then have a showdown: making movies, ripping CD's, editing photos, listening to music, designing a newsletter, doing your taxes, IM'ing your friends, and watching DVD's... all at the same time.

The iMac would kick the PC's a**. Sho'nuff.

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Actually

Majority of the stupid sheep buy PCs and then can't figure it out. If it takes an MCSE to run the friggin thing, shove it up yer nose. I need my hammer to hit the nail on the head without my having to configure bios and boot roms for it. Same with my computer. Its a tool you stink bot. If it doesn't work without me wasting time on it, its useless. Too bad majority of sheep corporations haven't realized yet. They love to waste money on IT.

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and add one more thing

to the mac... a keyspan remote. eat that Sony for the smae price point.

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Just goes to show...

that religious fanatics evolved from the garbage pit.

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This guy is an idiot

Does anyone know this guys email? We should all email him and tell him what a dumbass he is. It sounds like he had already mabde his decision before he even used the iMac (if he used the iMac)
I have an incredibly hard time smilling at ignorance like this.

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What about the RAM?

My guess is the iMac finds at least a couple of points in the ratings if its RAM is bumped to 512k to match the Sony. And how about footprint? Who wants that traditional space consuming "box" when the elegant iMac is the alternative? How many points for that???

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re: SatanWorshipper

Wow. Is that site real or a joke? Better say another decade of the rosary when I log out later else Steve the Open Source AntiChrist will have my soul...

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$1600 for 2 stars?

You can keep your 2 stars I'll take an iMac please.

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Not really related but...

Sort of off topic: Apple and Sony are both fighting for the digital hub title but both should stay clear of the tv set top box. Any of you who went or paid attention to CES know what I'm talking about. The rest of you check out https://www.moxi.com/home.htm
This thing kicks but! I don't see how anyone could do it better, which is why it won best of show. Best of all it will offer compatibility with the Mac. It's creater used to work for Apple after all. Apple should work with this company to make sure the potential is fullfilled and not try to compete. Let the other companies, like HP's joke of a set top system try to come close.

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Big Brother!?

That comment about appl ebeing big brother is ridiculous. I guess he failed to mention that Windows XP requires you to "activate" your copy of Windows. If you don't activate, 30 days later, your operating system locks you out. Too bad for those who formatted with NTFS when you can't get your files back.

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Nothing about MHZ?

Sheesh, a PC biased article that barely mentions a**-kicking Pee Sea MHZ numbers! Amazing! maybe it really IS irrelevant!

I LOVE it! Spend twice as much (factor in the extra taxes) to beat one of those over-priced Macintoshes by a hair! You've gotta laugh. The writer obviously has barely enough Mac knowledge to do it justice. What would have happened had the author known his way around BOTH systems? Mac 60. Vaio 30.

A $10 PC Card adaptor is GREAT for transferring images from CompactFlash cards... MUCH faster than USB or FireWire readers! TRY it! Fantastic.

iPhoto bad at editing? It's really marketed as a digital image shoe box... STORAGE and organization... that can do some minor tweaking, not a full bore image editor! Get PixelNhance. Ot drop $35 for Graphic Converter. Or better yet, get Photoshop, iView Media Pro and a whole pile of other stuff for the money you save on the iMac.

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Bible banging

What was that old thing about the ASCII codes for William Gates III (or something like that) adding up to 666? Maybe someone should "advise" that theobiologist lunatic about that one?

Convinced that *all* technology is the work of the dayavil, he will be forced to take his "expose" off the web so that the evil Apple and PC users will be denied the benefit of his wisdom and hence go straight to hayell (where all the usual suspects belong of course!).

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theobiologist site fake

please stop referencing that christion site as if it were real. it is a big joke...although the adverts are real, the author doesn't exist. Mac users are supposed to be smarter than this...c'mon

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How do you know?

What makes you think it isn't real? I have heard much more ridiculous allegations on the "700 Club" and "Jack van Impe". The "Apple is the devil incarnate" statements are mild by comparison.

If it isn't possible to distinguish it from reality, then I think it is safe to say that there will be plenty of kool-aiders that will believe every word of it.

Is it really some kind of parody? I don't see any evidence of that.

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You can still buy this?

Going to Popular Science for a computing review is like going to Radio Shack to fill your stereophonic needs.

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Stop bitching here ...

... and b**** to the editor of PS about the lack of emphasis on the price difference. Don't take issue with the review overall: as someone else pointed out, almost all of it falls within the +/- ratio of personal taste, filtered through what PS readers prefer (tinkering).

But if PS gets enough letters pointing out that the Mac is half the cost of a machine it came within a hair's breadth of matching, they will have to deal with it in a future issue. And perhaps they will emphasize it more in future "head-to-heads."

PS readers may be tinkerers who wouldn't often consider a Mac, but they're also by and large cheap-a** b******* and if it occurs to them that they can have 95% of the Vaio for 50% of the cost, this will make more than a few of them reconsider, and look into it more carefully. And once we get them there, we got em. So write in NOW!

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Compromise

Buy the imac, take the $1600 you save and buy a Sony digital video camera. Now for the price of the Vaio you've got the whole enchilada.

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Should be 45 to 44

I've never seen a product review or comparison that lacks a category for price. This is a first. All of the sudden price is of no concern, even though the "Mac's too expensive" argument (as stated throughout previous comments) was the reason prices were compared for earlier Macs. If the price was a category (and it probably was before he added up the scores and realized the iMac won) the final total would be iMac 45, Vaio 44.

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Tisk

That article had more holes in it than a swiss cheese at a clay pigeon shooting competition.

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Popular What?

I suppose this guy would give more points to a rubber tongue than give Apple the credit it deserves for the iMac.

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Should be Head-to-a**

Did you also see the article in the 1979 issue of Popular Science comparing a pet-rock to a real pet and the pet-rock edged out the real pet by 2 points? What a bunch of gear-heads over there at PSM!

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Re: Tisk

"That article had more holes in it than a swiss cheese at a clay pigeon shooting competition."

should correctly read:

"That article had more holes in it than an a**-shaped swiss-cheese in an El Salvador prison"

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HEY SONY...

...stick to makin' DVD players and TVs... your $3400 computer has NOTHING against a $2500 G4 tower (which it SHOULD have been compared to, simply from the price alone)

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Enough!

This was a well thought out, well written opinion piece. When so many Mac users rant that a guy's opinion is wrong and claim that anyone who prefers a Windows PC to a Mac, it makes me wonder if the people who claim that we are mindless zealots are right.

And the iMac to VAIO MX comparison was justified. Despite the huge price difference, both systems are aimed at consumers interested in creating digital hubs.

For the record, I own a Power Mac G4 (PCI Graphics) and a VAIO MX.

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s**** MAC

First of all how in the world can MAC BE better than pc. The desktop is so disorganized and cluttered. and to remove a cd. YOU HAVE TO BRING TO THE TRASH, WHILE IN WINDOWS U PRESS A BUTTON. just my opinion. If one thing about mac is good it is the design. otherwise it is so bad.
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Sony Vaio desktop vs iMac comparison

updated 11:05 am EDT, Tue April 23, 2002

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HEY SONY...

Enough!

s**** MAC

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