eWeek's Hot Java revives Mac programming and Java Developer's Journal's "Mac OS X & Java: A perfect marriage" [paid subscription required] talk about the growing interest in Java on the Mac platform.
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So, lets look at web site subscription econ 101.
I pay $50 for cable modem. And each site these days wants a fee. So, I have to pay twice. For example, cnn.com news video. If I went to all 10 sites I like the most would I really be paying $100 a month if I had to pay subscription fees?
Maybe what should be happening is you should block your site to roadrunner's network and force them to give you a part of that $50 dollar pie I pay them. And if enough sites did that then thier service would not be a compelling and they would loose customers. And you might get a piece of the pie. Just a thought.
by posting the article that we can't see? don't worry, nobody will tell...
Both sites are FREE the editorial staff oviously made a mistake. Believe me there are no web sites other then consumer reports that I pay for and I don't subscripbe to the magazine.
You are clearly mistaken. to read the rest fof the JDJ article, you need to subscribe to the magazine. The intro page (with 2 paragraphs) is free.
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that'll never happen.
in order for you to have the clout to say "i'm blocking roadrunner users until you gimme a piece of the $50 cablemodem fee," you'd have to be able to also say "and since 90% of your users go to my site, that's potentially 90% disgruntled users. now gimme some money..."
2 problems pop into my mind. first, you're assuming that all roadrunner users have an alternative. that's not always true since roadrunner may in fact be their only broadband access available. in otherwords, they really have no where else to go, so there's no real threat in losing them.
second, how do you get the critical mass needed so that the cable modem company feels a threat? for one, you could give free access for a year and then cut off access. but then you run the risk of pissing off the very users you want to use as a threat against the cable company.
apart from these arguments, there's the fact that there could potentially be hundreds of websites wanting a piece of that $50 cable modem fee. no cable company will put up with that and i'm sure their lobbying arms will put up huge dollars against it.
never gonna happen.
The level of integration that Apple has provided Java developers with is simply amazing. Once IB includes support for building pure Swing interfaces, it will truly be nirvana.
Thanks Apple!
I don't see any Java apps out there. Everything that people actually interact with is still C++.
yeah, maybe at the consumer level there aren't any java apps. but java apps have never really taken hold in the consumer level on any platform.
there are lots of corporate level java apps now though. some of these have moved to os x already, though most have not.
currently, most of the java apps available on os x are developer apps, things like jbuilder, UML, etc. gotta have the tools to build the apps first i guess.
overall though, if you consider os x slow (and on most mac hardware, it is) then java apps are generally slower by an order of magnitude. such is the nature of java in general, and aqua/os x sure don't help it much.
Microsofts .net plans. People are moving to mac for Java, Microsoft doesn't like it. Bill knows java doesnt have a strong foot hold here yet. So he wants to kill its momentum before it starts to become too strong. One of the creators of Java has just switched to mac. He plans to push java full force on the mac. This plus the fact that a lot of unix/linux people have jumped to the mac bandwagon means microsoft is gonna lose a lot of marketshare. If java never existed, I doubt that he would port .net to mac. Unless his ultimate goal has shifted from total dominance of the pc market to I just want the internet and everything related to it. And as for java being slow on the mac, remeber java is a virtual machine, meaning it is the complete virtual hardware, the OS, and the programming language all in one. Apple is able to run OS 9 in virtual mode, with little loss of performance. So a little modifications here and there and a little vectorization for altivec and bam, Java could be running as fast as mac apps.
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1st POST, BOOH YEAH!!!
Could it be that M$ fairly scary licensing and .NET plans are making people look elsewhere for all manner of computing solutions???
-the 'BOOH YEAH' guy.