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http://www.macnn.com/articles/02/03/29/mozilla.1.0/

Mozilla 1.0 nears release

updated 10:00 pm EST, Fri March 29, 2002

 
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The three-year-old Mozilla project may finally yield a general-use release of the open source Web browser in the coming weeks, c|net's John Borland writes. The evolving repository of program code -- often referred to as the "tree" -- has now been restricted to only minor revisions in preparation for a '1.0' release.


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  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    03/29, 10:11pm | report spam | Reply |

    1st POST, BOO YEAH!!!

    HAHAHA I win.

    Lets hope it's fast and stable!

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    ack.

    ugly, severely bloated, uses too much RAM.

    yeah, great browser. *yawn*

    (yes, i have tried the fugly skins available for it)

  1. dmazzoni

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    03/30, 01:46am | report spam | Reply | delete

    This is a big deal

    Some of you don't understand what a big deal this is.

    First of all, if you haven't tried Mozilla in a few months, you really need to try it again. It's amazing how far it's come recently - ever since version 0.9.7 it hasn't crashed on me once, and it's been able to view every web page I've given it. They're now on version 0.9.9 and it really does seem almost ready.

    Even if Mozilla is not your favorite browser, at least understand how critically important it is that Mozilla exists.

    * Just like Netscape, Mozilla is available for every major computing platform there is - unlike Internet Explorer, which is only available for Mac OS and Windows.

    * Mozilla is very modular - its rendering engine can be used independently of the rest of the browser, allowing anyone to create programs which render web pages inside of them, freely. There are no other alternatives which render web pages the same way your browser does (unless you're on Windows).

    * Mozilla is open-source, which means that if a security flaw is found, thousands of people from different companies all have the opportunity to fix it if they want. When a bug is found in IE, you have to wait for Microsoft to fix it.

    * Believe it or not, Mozilla actually includes cool new features (like tabbed browsing) that aren't found in any other browser! Try it, you might like it.

    * More and more websites are designed only to work with Internet Explorer. Mozilla provides the best real alternative to IE, because it implements every feature IE does, and thus people who run web sites are more likely to support Mozilla as well, than any other browser.

    Yes, I know there are other browsers for the Mac (iCab, OmniWeb, and Opera, for example). That's great - the more, the merrier. But Mozilla is free, which is significant, and it's also a much larger effort, and it is extremely standards-compliant, so web sites are much more likely to support Mozilla/Netscape.

    The bottom line is, without Mozilla, we're faced more and more with a Microsoft-only web.

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    03/30, 05:41am | report spam | Reply |

    The Bottom Line is...

    Mozilla is ugly and bloated, just as a previous poster mentioned.

    And, it is more than presumptuous of you to think that some/most/any of "us" are not aware of "what a big deal this is"... Yes, Mozilla is important, all the more is my personal disappointment at how crashingly ugly and bloated Mozilla is. Mozilla gives me the creeps.

    Yes, I have used .99 or whatever the latest version is numbered. No, I do not download the "nightly builds".

    It's iCab and OmniWeb for me. Small footprints, easy on the RAM (yeah, I have plenty of RAM, 768MB, but that does not mean I want my browser to use as much as Mozilla does)... iCab is fast, and OmniWeb is downright gorgeous in every aesthetic sense. Free? They can be used for free, are available for free. Yes, they won't always be free, except iCab will always be available in a so-called "lite" version for free. I believe very strongly in supporting those who support Mac OS, and ONLY support Mac OS. I have, therefore, gladly paid for iCab and OmniWeb. I paid for iCab the very day the developers started accepting payment for it, and I have been using iCab since its very first publicly released beta.

    I have a copy of Mozilla on my primary Mac. It is aliased in my "Favorites" as Bloatzilla. Why it is in my Favorites, I really can't say. I want to like Mozilla. I hate it.

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    Standards?

    iCab is *extremely* standards-compliant. And it can 'masquerade' as whatever browser you want it to, and will thus appear to any webserver as whatever browser you want it to appear as.

    Mozilla, much larger effort? As in "bigger is better"? Give me a break. iCab and OmniWeb have done better in a shorter period of time.

    I've read all the ink a person can read about Mozilla. I understand the issues. Why anyone, except those working on the project, can get excited about Mozilla is, frankly, unfathomable. Mozilla is just awful, if I wanted something that ugly (and no, skins do not make it better) then I would not mind using Windows and seeing its butt-ugly desktop every day.

    Beauty is only skin-deep, you say? The guts of Mozilla are truly a wonder, you say? Yeah, and so are my guts, but it's my outer shell that keeps them all together and functioning in a coherent fashion.

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    03/30, 07:26am | report spam | Reply |

    Fun

    Without Mozilla I would not have been able to remove IE from my system.

    OmniWeb 4.1 can "gobble" up 600MB if you want to - just open 80 pages of large jpg files. But it works.

    For a very short while Mozilla was the ONLY browser that would display a pup-up list of articles on each category of... MSN.com, then M$ killed java and that functionality.

    iCab turned into a joke with its stalls and all.

  1. ahaavie

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    Mozilla is actually good

    I use icab is my number 1 browser, and it works without a hitch. However, my bank uses security sertificates that is only supported on Netscape and Mozilla, and Mozilla 0.99 is working very good with this.

  1. lavar78

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    Mozilla is great

    If you don't like it, don't use it. Let me be the first to mention Chimera as an alternative (no "bloat," Gecko engine, Cocoa front end). It's not ready for prime time yet, but it looks very promising.

  1. the Rebel

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    Reality

    "And, it is more than presumptuous of you to think that some/most/any of "us" are not aware of "what a big deal this is"..."

    There are people reading this forum who have never even heard of Mozilla. So how can you suggest that there is no one here that realizes what Mozilla 1.0 can mean?

    "Yes, I have used .99 or whatever the latest version is numbered."

    You sound so convincing...

    We are supposed to believe that you have download and tried the latest version even though you do not know for sure what the latest version number is?

  1. the Rebel

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    03/31, 02:56pm | report spam | Reply |

    iCab

    iCab is a great little browser and the ability to pretend to be another browser can come in handy, but it does not really make iCab behave like a different browser. Just because it tells a website that it is IE or Netscape or Mozilla does not mean it can execute Javascript that the other browsers can.

    BTW, Mozilla can also pretend to be other browsers in very much the same way that iCab does.

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