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Apple DVD Player v3.1 for Mac OS X available

updated 06:40 pm EST, Fri March 1, 2002

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Apple has released DVD Player v3.1 via the Apple Software Update application in Mac OS X. The DVD software update adds features for DVD authoring, including the ability to select and play the contents of a 'VIDEO_TS' folder from a local volume as well as AppleScript support for selection and playback of DVD content and a 'wide' info window layout, bug fixes, and stability enhancements.

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Finally

This will shut up those DVD content developers that don't provide their special features for the Mac because Apple didn't provide them with an API to control the DVD player.

Woo!

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Ripping DVDs?

So can we copy that video folder onto our HD to easily and quickly rip a DVD?

Then copy it onto a data DVD, to easily and quickly archive it? (for personal use only of course)...

Then easily and quickly copy it with disk burner, as you can't have too many backups?

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Good luck...

Most DVD movies are dual-layer where blank DVD-Rs are single layer.

I believe this feature is geared towards those creating DVDs - does this mean DVD Studio Pro for MacOS X is coming soon?

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funy coincidence...

that version 3.1 of the software is released on March 1st...

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It's also ..

funny that you cannot spell funny...

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"wide" info window?

What's a wide info window? Was the previous one too narrow?

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Hate to be a complainer..

Still no VCD support? or am I mistaken in thinking that there should be? Or is there? Geez, I don' t know WHATS going on these days.

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Re: Hate to be a complain

VCDs use MPEG-1, while a DVD Player users MPEG-2. There is some overlap, but it's usually PC players that combine them.

QuickTime can play VCDs, or at least it used to a few years ago when I actually used them. Just open the .DAT file or something with QT Player.

But really, *WHO CARES* about VCDs anymore? Especially with DVD having much higher quality / scene access / extra features and appearing at a rate of 1000 per month.

Even the pirate market is switching to DVD "Silvers"...

For home made video discs, you can make DVDs now for less than a $400 purchase (off the shelf DVD-R drive installed in a PowerMac) or even just get a new flat-panel G4 iMac.

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VCD sux

Who in the h*** watches VCDs?

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Re: VCD sux

Many people watch VCDs and SVCDs. Just check out www.vcdquality.com to see what I mean. It's nice to have a DVD quality LOTR less than a month after it's theatrical release. Now if only DVD Player would support SVCDs until QT 6 finally gets released.

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VCD/SVCD

Not DVD quality. Sorry.

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this just in: apple sued

uh, this is completely bad. apple really screwed up by posting that dvd player 3.1. i can totally see a lawsuit being released tomorrow! you can literally copy a dvd to hard drive and play straight from the hard drive, all menus, chapters and everything.

as much as it's really cool...i don't see this being on apple's site for much longer.

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re: this just in

maybe they released this because eisner attacked "rip mix burn."

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re: this just in

maybe it was a fluke because it worked for me once. now when I try to play those dvd files it crashes my whole computer pretty hard. oh, and i did make sure the dvd disc wasn't in the computer. i was actually playing a commercial dvd that was copied to my hard drive. i ejected the disc and then went into dvd player 3.1, chose a video_ts directory and hit play. it proceeded to play perfectly...

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?? Sued ???

Why would Apple be sued?

I haven't installed this yet - but it sounds like this just brings the X DVD player up to the Classic DVD player's capabilities.

The big plus for this addition is for people making DVD's and then they can view them in X's DVD player before burn... I don't see how that is grounds for Apple being sued... sheesh.

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Did Apple pull it???

Where is it???

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Never mind....

I forgot to put my DVD module inside my Powerbook....it all cool now once i pop it in....

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Sweet!

Now I can rent a DVD, copy it to my HD, and then return it the SAME DAY! errr.. I'm the sort who usually returns them late.

Now if only there was an inexpensive way to archive all the DVDs I copied, this would be a bitchin' set up. Apple really should spearhead the effort towards creating a system that can pirate DVDs as easily as CDs. That will increase their marketshare pronto.

And no, I don't care about some fat fu[k executive who gets paid $4 million instead of $6 million because of DVD pirating. If they don't want us to pirate, then they shouldn't rip us off on the price. $20 for a DVD!! WTF? It costs pennies to stamp those things out...they should go for $5 tops. Greedy b******* deserve to have all their S*** pirated.

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Re: Sweet!

I forgot that there were still some greedy, simple minded, small picture oriented hippies running around these days. I guess you proved that they are alive and well.

It is true that helping people steal things increases your market share since the vast majority of the world (especially jerks like you) are dishonest nearly all the time. That said, it is an interesting dance played by the hardware makers as they officially must support copy protection measures but unofficially are trying to help people steal things. Just like including a CD-ROM and a CD-RW drive in the same system. That is for what other than piracy of music and software?

Ah well, you don't understand how reality works and why stealing is wrong. It isn't the executive that takes a pay cut, it is the little people like the janitors or the interns that get hurt. Don't even get me started about the thousands of potentially innocent people affected by poor stock performance due to piracy not to mention the billions affected by a potential global intellectual property economic depression.

I really wish you would look beyond your own wallet before claiming the system is more greedy than you.

But that is what makes you and I different,
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Problem

after the update, I get at my G4 (450 Mhz) and iBook (500 Mhz)

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It does not work

Copying a DVD movie to your hard drive and then trying to watch it will not work.

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Pirating Vvs. Making life

It really sucks that the vast minority of people who are pirating software (Movies, Music, and applications) make it so much more difficult for the rest of us. It would be really nce to buy a DVD and copy it onto a very large hard drive, along with all of my other DVDs, and have instant access to al of my movies the same way I have access to all of my music.

I also wonder if the media companies are being honest about all of this piracy stuff. I can understand being upset about piracy operations where an organized group of individuals is recreating the software and selling it, but I doubt that the number of individuals who are copying software and passing it on to friends is really significant enough to warrant what seems like the undue amount of attention they seem to be focusing on this "problem". I also wonder, when they are citing these figures of how much they lose in sales each year due to piracy, are they taking into account that the vast majority of people who have copies of software they didn't buy would probably not have bought the software anyway? That is to say, when they quote the figures for a given piece of software based on the copies they estimate are out there that are not legal, how do they figure out how many of those copies would never have been sold in the first place?

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re: ?? Sued ???

Apple would be sued because if you can in fact copy a commercial DVD to your hard drive and play it through the new DVD Player 3.1, the movies studios would sue like crazy to stop that capability.

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Re: Pirating Vvs. Making

Yes, software companies have traditionally counted all downloaded copies of pirated software as a revenue loss. That's what enables the BSA and SPA to say that AutoCad lost $XXXXXXXX last year when half of that really went to kids who downloaded it just to play around with it. I know because I was one of those kids...How else does a 12 year old kid get to play with AutoCad after all?

Think about it, if software companies actually acknowledged that some percentage of that software would never actually get used then that percentage would become an argued point between consumers, government, the B$A and $PA, etc.

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re: It does not work

For fear of DMCA, I will not even post that it does work...

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This isn't DeCSS.

I haven't tried this (don't have any DVDs) but I will virtually guarantee that this will NOT let you watch COMMERCIAL DVDs just by copying them to the desktop.
The whole VIDEO_TS thing is for people who are making DVDs: it lets them preview how the DVD will work under OS X without having to burn it.
Currently, the CSS technology on DVDs requires that a particular key be present to decode the DVD data. If the files are sitting on the hard drive, without the same DVD in the drive, there is no valid key, and so the content cannot be played.
Now, if this were coupled with something like DeCSS, and the UNSCRAMBLED data were written to the VIDEO_TS, then it could played from the hard disk without the DVD.
Bottom line: the new DVD player can play UNSCRAMBLED data in a VIDEO_TS folder on the hard drive. Since commercial DVDs are scrambled, it will not play movies which are just drag-and-dropped from the DVD.
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RE: This isn't DeCSS

I just copied the entire disc 1 of the simpson's to my harddrive...works perfectly...disc ejected

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Guys, the prob is

o, not alot of peeps pirate movies now, but it will increase with new technology/higher speed internet.

If they let it go now there is no stopping it.

Movies are MADE to make money, plane and simple, at least the ones you guys are gonna want to steal.

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Re: This isn't DeCSS

Nope it's not DeCSS, it doesn't decode the data. But through this bug (which I will not describe for fear of DMCA), it does allow one to play a single DVD movie on multiple networked computers pretty much perfectly. That's just one use for it. I've found that Airport isn't fast enough, but the standard 100Base-T is. There are a few glitches mostly when data rate goes up for complex music or explosions but otherwise, menus work, as do chapters and skipping forward/backward.

I'm in the process of submitting the bug to Apple anyway...

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Re: This isn't DeCSS

I just copied the entire disc 1 of the simpson's to my harddrive...works perfectly...disc ejected

Probably because the Simpsons DVDs aren't encrypted...?

Thinking about it, why would they need to be, since many people have them taped off the TV anyway.

Try copying the VIDEO_TS folder from a known encrypted disc, then report back.

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Awesome! DVD Copying!

Now I can rent a DVD, copy it to my HD, and then return it the SAME DAY! errr.. I'm the sort who usually returns them late.

...if I bother returning them at all. Now I can rent a DVD, copy it to my hard drive, return it, and burn the hard drive archive for future view. Sweet!

DVD writer sales should go through the roof!

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Region Problem

Ever since the upgrade to DVD 3.1, I have a problem switching from regions. It seems OSX doesn't want me to switch anymore.The symptom is, that if I insert a DVD from a different region than the one I played before, DVD Player 3.1 refuses to start up saying " A system error occurred" followed by a long error number.
Quite likely it's my own fault, because I did a firmware upgrade on my DVD drive, so it's region free.
I did some experiments, and the following workaround works for me, although I don't completely understand why:
I rename ~/library/preferences into ~/library/preferencesOK. OSX immediately creates a new preferences folder. Now I can startup DVD Player without a problem. After having viewed the DVD, I drag the 'preferencesOK' folder to my desktop, rename it into 'preferences' and replace the freshly created preferences folder.
There seem to be at least two preference files involved:
~/library/preferences/com.apple.dvdplayer.plist and
~/library/preferences/ByHost/com.apple.HIToolbox.xxxxdbcc.plist.
Is there someone alse with this problem?
Does someone understand why this 'hack' works?

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video_ts folder

what dvd authoring program makes a video_ts folder prior to burning? not idvd2. Id like to try this out.

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first system error

i installed dvd-player on two computers an i get the identical sysem error message on both:

system error 1852402768

does anybody have a clue? greetings from zurich, roman.

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Problem solved

Apparently, the DVD payer doesn't like the greyscale color scheme. If you switch back to the default colored 'traffic light' scheme, it'll work

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it works fine...

it works fine... ALL DVDS WORK FINE, THEY CAN ALL BE COPIED TO YOUR DRIVE, AND EVEN REBURNT IF YOU HAVE A SUPERDRIVE / DVD BURNER.

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