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BOA decision "surprising;" customers assure

updated 05:05 pm EST, Wed January 30, 2002

 
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In response to claims made by the Bank of America regarding the dropping support of Macintosh users, Intuit, maker of Quicken, has clarified its position on the issue noting that Mac Quicken users will still be able to take advantage of the BOA service.

Citing changes in their online banking platform, Bank of America notified
their customers that it would no longer support direct connect to Macintosh
versions of Quicken. According to a subsequent statement , Bank of America is
claiming that they are taking this functionality away from more than 1,100
Quicken for Mac users is because of the inability to set up recurring payments
in Quicken. This is surprising for three reasons:


    (1) In Quicken '98, (released in September 1997), we added the ability to
    schedule payments. Through this functionality, Quicken customers are able to
    schedule payments - including recurring bills like mortgage and car payments -
    to be made on specified future dates.


    (2) Bank of America has supported payments through direct connect in Quicken
    since Quicken '98.


    (3) From September 1997 through the recent beta testing process for the
    implementation of Bank of America's new payment method, the lack of recurring
    payment feature was never mentioned by B of A as a reason for incompatibility.



Through extensive customer research, we have found that the ability to
schedule payments has received high approval marks. Our customers are not
requesting the ability to set up recurring payments, which is a very similar
feature. If at a future date, our customers tell us that they want recurring
payment functionality, we will do what we can to implement it.


Despite Bank of America's decision, customers will still be able to download
transactions from Bank of America via Web Connect by going to the bank's Web
Site and downloading transactions into Quicken. Customers can also continue to
pay bills on Bank of America's Web Site or use "Quicken Bill Pay," a service
that enables customers to pay any bill from any financial institution in the
United States and from up to ten different accounts (even at multiple
financial institutions).


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  1. hopkinssm

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    Partial Solution

    This has already been pointed out to be a partial solution, and does NOT contradict what BoA reported. Customers are still losing the ability to pull transactions from within Quicken. Research that I have done still shows that this is not the fault of Intuit, but was a decision of the bank. The interface that Quicken uses to communicate via both Mac and PC is exactly the same. The deciding factor of whether BoA will support the request is entirely a field in the interface spec which reports the client platform. Do not flame Intuit for this, this is based 100% on the implementation of the Interface spec that BoA is creating.

  1. hopkinssm

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    OFX Spec

    For more info, check out the Open Financial Exchange (OFX) Specification availiable at www.OFX.net

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    Change bank! n/t

    n/t

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    Packet Hacking?

    Could someone capture some Windows Quickin Login Packets and write a quick Mac app that "masks" the Mac quickin's login packet to identify as a windozer? If the protocol and such is all the same and just controled by the login ID packet, this probably wouldn't be too hard, and would send Bank of America home crying.

  1. bunnybee

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    Only 1100 users

    That's very telling - only 1100 Quicken Mac users, out of 10 million BofA customers (even assuming that 1% of those bank online, we're still looking at 100000 Windows users). As usual, these corporate behemoths made a financial decision that it's cheaper to lose these people than to create and maintain Mac compatibility.

    Looks the the only way to make BofA change their mind is hope that one of those 1100 customers they're going to lose is Bill Gates :-)

  1. ddukes

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    first union national bank

    I sent FUNB online an e-mail regarding the Bank of America situation expressing concern of backlash all over. I received a reply stating my e-mail has been forwarded to the Customer Advocacy division.

    I have a bad feeling about Mac support overall with Quicken...

  1. WCShepard

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    Wells Fargo Bank

    This only reconfirms my decision to leave B of A and switch to Wells Fargo. I made the switch because of B of A's poor customer service. Wells supports direct Quicken connect just fine on both the Mac and Windows. So maybe it's time for all 1100 customers to move to Wells.

  1. beno

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    sucks

    I think Quicken is a S***** piece of software if it uses different communication protocols for different platforms. What's up with that? Why should any bank even have to notice what platform you're using?

  1. hopkinssm

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    Re: sucks

    Quicken is not the problem. Working in the billing industry, the OFX protocol is used in many major interfaces. (i.e. part of the reason that the platform tag is there is to determine which line encoding scheme to support, as an example). Nothing else in the transmittion would be different.

  1. lpaul@mac.com

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    Maybe good news?

    I spent 40 minutes on the phone with Bank of America after learning about their plans to drop Quicken support on the Mac. At first I was told that they are dropping Macinosh support for Quicken, but after speaking with the Quicken supervisor "Charles" I got a straight (and good) answer.

    They are dropping support for older versions of Quicken 2000 or earlier. However, they are still supporting the Macintosh for all versions of Quicken newer than the 2000 version.

    I have been a BofA customer for years and have not received the letter that you referenced. I don't know if it is because I have already signed up with Quicken 2002 with BofA last year.

    However, I am a bit troubled by reading that bofa offered to refund $50 for the Quicken upgrade to another reader. BofA needs to send out a clarification letter. I guess we will see after the 11th if Charles is correct. I hope that he is.

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