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Adobe ships Illustrator 10, adds OS X support

updated 01:50 pm EST, Mon November 5, 2001

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Adobe is now shipping Illustrator 10, its industry-standard vector graphics software. It offers support for symbols, object-based slicing, dynamic data-driven graphics, and OS X. The $400 application is available as a $150 upgrade.

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Finally, Adobe listens

Now Photoshop is all we need.

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Dont forget Acrobat

We still need distiller for X.

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That's...

...ONE MORE OFF MY LIST!

1) Illustrator (yeah!)
2) Dreamweaver :(
3) Flash :(
4) Photoshop :(

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Two more for me

InDesign and GoLive. Soon, please.

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My 'must' apps

Illustrator
Photoshop
Final Cut Pro

AfterEffects -It runs really well under Classic though I can't allocate more than 450MB of RAM

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problem

tried the beta of this - for christ's sake when you're creating graphics you *really* don't need drop shadows off every friggin palette!

aqua + design = nightmare!

let's start a no to drop shadows petition

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osx compatible

"Finally, Adobe listens"

uhmm they did the whole time you just an impatient whiner who has to have it all now. i cant wait till everythings ported so the wining 15 year olds who build "play" sites stfu. if your a pro who uses these programs you would simply bide your time like you have the past 10 years and when the times right to switch you do it. like ive said many times most major apps will have osx compatibility within a year of its release. gee i wonder how many more osx apps well score in january!

b e r s e r k cftucs

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Official Adobe statement

Well, at least Adobe has an official statement on their site:

Adobe software and Mac OS X

I can't seem to find a similar statement on Macromedia's web site, though... :(

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11/05, 03:39pm | report spam | close Reply |
Acrobat?

Why? OS X can save any file as a PDF... I do it all the time.

I'm waiting for Photoshop and GoLive next ... :)

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11/05, 03:46pm | report spam | close Reply |
Re: Problem

"aqua + design = nightmare! "

Oh come one now... are you looking at your work or the desktop? Same with the people who complin about the colors in Aqua.

The "problem" is your attention span! Are you sitting in a gray room, with gray clothes on? Is the desk your computer on gray? Do the things in the room around you cast shadows? Does this prevent you from "designing"

Do artists that paint have a problem with their easel? "God, I can't think... this easle is too distracting! Why are my brushes brown?? And the Sun shining out side!!! Damn those birds!!! ARGGGGGGG!!!

If this is you, see a doctor. You need meds. Doesn't stop me...

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Sweeeeeet!

Adobe's in da house!!!

bring on photoshop now! :)))))

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My X List

1) Dreamweaver (with mySQL/PHP support)
2) Fireworks
3) Acrobat
4) Unreal Tournament :-)

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re: problem

While I find it funny when designers (I've been one for 10+ years) complain that they can work in OSX because its too distracting. I do agree that some elements are bothersome when it comes to apps with many palettes.

For instance, we dont need drop shadows on every palette, not because they're distracting, but because they take up screen space. We also dont want the large traffic light buttons that make a tiny palette into a tiny palette with big buttons

Luckily Adobe made their own widgets that kept Aqua's appearance but save us all alot of workspace.

Well done Adobe, Cant wait for Photoshop + After Effects.

P.S. The PDFs OSX saves are ok for general use but not professional, different PDF standard than adobes.

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re: traffic light buttons

I don't know if Adobe is using the little traffic light buttons, because I have not tried this app yet, but it really is an Apple thing. Open up iTunes, and minimize the window, you should see the same small traffic light buttons.

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so uh...

So uh... does this mean we stop hating Adobe for dumping mac users and start hating Macromedia?

:P

Nick

yay. now I get to go through every single font subfolder I have and move every one of my couple thousand fonts individually to my library/fonts folder. Wee. Oh yeah, now I have to deal with the fonts pallet. weee.. I'm overjoyed...really.

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Yes!

1) Dreamweaver (with mySQL/PHP support)

AGGGREEEED!

But...alas...it'll never happen. Macromedia is fusing in ColdFusion application support, so don't expect to see any Macromedia sanctioned PHP/MySQL support. I'd love to see it too.

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Shadows

I am a programmer, so most of what I do deals with text. I prefer black backgrounds on my windows. The problem with the shadows is that overlapping black windows results in not being able to tell where one window ends and another begins.

Really though, I wish there was a way to turn Aqua off.

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Re: Drop Shadows

It was either TinkerTool or the OS X Theme Project - one of them let you remove drop shadows from windows. That should be all you need.

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RE: Problem

To the 10th poster guy:
I wrote the original 'problem' post... I am a designer and I find all the candy and stripyness very distracting.

'This easel is distracting' you say. Don't know the last time you used an easel but last time I looked it was a plain, white, space. Just what i want when i want to create something. No chunky palettes with their ugly-a** drop shadows.

Your vitrioloic post 'see a doctor' was unnecessary. You may love cheesy drop shadows and 'liquid effects' but i certainly don't. Go back to your coreldraw and claris homepage

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removing shadow

Try this:
http://www.unsanity.com/haxies.php
Called shadowkiller.

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no shadows in Aqua!!

i agree. those shadows kill me.
download shadow killer here:
http://www.unsanity.com/

its great!!

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cheers

nicely for the link, will be installed tonight :)

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re: Acrobat?

so & so wrote: Why? OS X can save any file as a PDF... I do it all the time.

not really. Acrobat is probably a more complicated tool than so & so realizes ... (1) the PDF that's built into Mac OS X has significant differences from each revision level of the PDF standard. (2) you need Acrobat if you are going to do anything serious with a PDF document, like add hotlinks, comments, signoffs, etc. (4) you need Acrobat to delete pages, and make other changes. (3) i also doubt the built-in PDF capability will work with PDF-workflow prepress tools. so Acrobat is definitely needed on Mac OS X.

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The rest

Adobe CEO and president: "Adobe Illustrator 10 is the first of our flagship products being released on Mac OS X, with the rest of our major titles to follow during the coming six months."

Does it mean we'll have all of them in 6 months? and I mean ALL of them.

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Don't like shadows?

Change your desktop to Black. That is even easier than ShadowKiller.

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re: Don't like shadows

That's got to be the silliest suggestion yet!

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easel

"plain white space"
I think you are thinking of a canvas. An easel is usually a paint-splattered piece of wood that stinks of paint thinner. X in graphite mode doesn't bother me when designing, neither does it really bother me in normal, colored mode. my problem is that I get distracted playing with eyecandy. (slow mo genie effects, etc) but then again, I have a small attention span :P

Nick

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Re: Problem

"'This easel is distracting' you say. Don't know the last time you used an easel but last time I looked it was a plain, white, space. "

I can see that you have NEVER used an easel, nor do you know what one is. You are describing a CANVAS lug head!! The easel is the wooden device that clamps the canvas.

I have a degree in fine art, have taught art, and have been painting since I was a kid.

If colors around you are distracting, than you have attention problems. You need to focus on the *white* space in the application's canvas window! The frame of the window, as well as the rest of the interface, and the things on your desk in front of you are inconsequential

Also, I don't, and have never used Corel Draw. I've been using Adobe Illustrator professionally since version "88."

I also use Adobe GoLive and BBEdit, thank you very much.

I make my living as a graphic designer in NYC, and I'm over 40. You sound like a collage student lol

I bet you think Windows has a better interface... all that ugly gray...

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re: Problem

* yawn *

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Re: Acrobat

"not really. Acrobat is probably a more complicated tool than so & so realizes ... "

Actually I do use Acrobat 5.0, and you are correct as far as the feature set. If you want to make PDF files for online viewing with bookmarks and such, than you need Acrobat.

You can use OS X to make simple PDF files for the purpose of printing, which is what most people seem to use PDF files for now. (let's not get into the RGB/CYMK/Spot color issues with PDF files however! lol)

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Re: Acrobat

" i also doubt the built-in PDF capability will work with PDF-workflow prepress tools."

Just say no to PDF workflow!!!

I see so many damn PDF files that people send here to have film output, not realizing that you can't output spot colors and they embed low res images and the fonts are missing etc.

I think it's been so-called "designers" that use Windows that started this stupid PDF trend.

We just bounce the damn things back and ask for the Quark files... ;-)

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Re: Acrobat

Just say no to PDF workflow!!!

I see so many damn PDF files that people send here to have film output, not realizing that you can't output spot colors and they embed low res images and the fonts are missing etc.

I think it's been so-called "designers" that use Windows that started this stupid PDF trend.

We just bounce the damn things back and ask for the Quark files... ;-)

As a customer I will then turn to a place where they give their customers an Acrobat Settings file so Distiller will make proper PDFs.

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Shadows distracting?

Man, I don't know what universe you live in where objects don't cast shadows. When I raise my paintbrush to the canvas, the brush and my arm cast a shadow on the canvas, and the easel casts a shadow on the floor. It never occurred to me that these shadows should all be removed. You should be happy if the software tool icons themselves don't cast shadows when you drag them across the drawing window!

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Acrobat or Illustrator

... yes, is this discussion about Illustrator 10? or should I go in a Acrobat discussion to get info about Illustrator?

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illustrator vs Freehand

How many people think illustrator only came out now cuz freehand is out. I think it was rushed because of this and we will see many problems in the future and updates but who cares right we all have our favorites

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