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Shuttle offers a "cube for the rest of us"

updated 03:50 pm EST, Mon October 29, 2001

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The Tech Report evaluates Shuttle's SV24 bare-bones system, dubbed as a "cube for the rest of us." The Windows system design, based loosely on Apple's defunct Power Mac G4 cube, includes mouse, keyboard, serial, VGA, S-Video, parallel, composite video, dual IEEE 1394 (Firewire), Ethernet RJ-45, audio in, and audio out ports as well as a single PCI slot.

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how do you spell crappy

design?

s-h-u-t-t-l-e

this is why pcs wil always suck. its just not in their dna to produce greatness...

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10/29, 04:01pm | report spam | close Reply |
Ugh

Not even a cube. Even the Cobalt Raq had a better design.

Wasn't there something at COMDEX, a cube 2 inches bigger, looked just like a G4 cube? Dragon something?

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Yeccchh...

How could anyone in their right mind compare that piece of c*** with the G4 Cube?

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10/29, 04:10pm | report spam | close Reply |
hehhe

in his article "And yes, that is real, brushed aluminum." no, real brushed aluminum!? how u crazee folks pull that off? its so shinee!.....

berserk cube like my a**

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Look at those ports, then look at the price. That's about the price of Virtual PC for the Mac! I'd say it's a far better product at that price than our Cube was. Too bad it can't run Mac software.

Hey, I lost my name! The site always knew that I was Bugs and now I'm stuck with . Do I have to log in every time now? Why am I asking YOU this? You better go now, I'm starting to feel dangerous.
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10/29, 04:20pm | report spam | close Reply |
Woohoo....

yippee...brushed Aluminum (sarcasm)

That pretty much means they were too lazy to paint it, Brushed aluminum is a far cry from something like lets say....oh...Titanium. Anyway what do you say about that giant fan, I doubt it runs as quiet as a cube, and I definately would not want it sitting on top of my desk, especially if they can't match the 30 different shades of beige that are available in CD drives.

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10/29, 04:41pm | report spam | close Reply |
$250

just so perple know, all this is, is a case and a mother bored (yes bored), you still need a hard drive, ram and at best a pent 3, so it will end up costing over $600 for it to be well equipt.

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Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz�

"As you can see, there's a single 60mm fan at the rear of the case for cooling. There's also an almost-silent little fan inside the power supply unit. Beyond that, only the CPU fan generates noise."

So in other words, beyond the first fan and the second fan, only the third fan makes noise (laugh). Oh, and the hard drive should you choose to add one. I realise the writer just likes the heck out of this case, but there are limits to skewed perspective in reviewing.

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Huh . . .

From the end of the "review":
"If hardware vendors are paying attention, the SV24 ought to be the first of many systems in a new class of mini-PCs. I know the Mac cubes failed, but hey, they were Macs. The SV24 is an open platform, the foundation for a hundred different products from a hundred different OEMs and PC hobbyists. All of that is enough to earn the SV24 the highest honor we can grant here at TR: a top ranking on our world-famous 11-point scale. No, the SV24 isn't perfect, but it's good enough�and innovative enough�to garner an 11."

Apparently, the "open platform" of PC's will bring success . . . last time I checked, it was Microsoft who was writing all their own (crappy) standards, and Apple who was adopting (mostly) open and generally accepted formats.

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10/29, 06:19pm | report spam | close Reply |
ROTFLMAO

OMG That has to be most ugliest POS produced to date by any PC maker. Its so ugly its damn funny. I can't believe they churn out c*** like that.

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LOL

That is just SO funny, it's almost sick.........

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10/29, 06:54pm | report spam | close Reply |
BUTT UGLY!

And that's with a capitol BUTT!

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10/29, 07:15pm | report spam | close Reply | delete
Heheh.

My PC tower looks like that! -- only taller, of course. It's a heavy aluminum ATX case, and it's rather ugly now after a few weeks of use. Makes me yearn for a G4 everytime I have to fix something.

Gotta admit, though, those PC guys do try. :)

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YUCK!!!!

That think is butt ugly. Why does macnn even bother giving it coverage? It looks nothing like the Cube, it's just an "almost" square PC. That's it.

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10/29, 09:06pm | report spam | close Reply |
Lol...sick of design

I run both OS's because I need to run Microsoft stuff at work, and because the Mac pretty much sux for games. (and don't flame me, because you know that it's true. The G4 is great for games, unfortunately few come out and when they do it's at least 3-6 months later)

I think the Apple community still suffers from unbelievable smugness about how good Apple's design is and how "s***" they're computers are and focus again on how Apple's prices really do not compete with the Wintel market. This IS what the cube should have been, even though the $250 doesn't count the processor. An AMD 1.4 gHz processor is like $200. This could still be a decent system at probably $599-$799. The cube looked nice, but it was a joke...obviously considering how fast it got pulled from the market.

Now consider the iPod. lol, another knee-slapper. $400 for a walkman with stupid annoyances built in to prevent Piracy. What makes me mad about it is that this is where Apple wastes it's money, and keeps the prices of it's actually good products higher than they need to be.

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10/29, 09:32pm | report spam | close Reply |
Zero footprint PC

The Shuttle is nothing more than a PC jammed into a small case. Big deal.

If you want to see something a lot slicker, check out Tiger Tech's PC-in-a-keyboard:
http://www.avtiger.com/Products_Detail.asp?ItemCode=5785&Action=Mostrar

I'm surprised these aren't more popular among the Wintel crowd.

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10/29, 10:03pm | report spam | close Reply |
My old Atari St

was computer and keyboard in one. If anyone out there remembers or had one, than you'll know this Tiger Tech model is only marginally different in appearance. Even the drive location is the same.

Admittedly, my Atari came without a hard drive. Had to load the system from a floppy with each boot. That was primitive!

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10/29, 10:34pm | report spam | close Reply |
Sick of Design?

I make my living as a designer, and do not disregard design as unimportant, if design were not important then why are so many computer companies striving to now make their computers look better. If design were not important then people would all be driving the same car. Because you do not need anything more than wheels, an engine and somewhere to sit. It is not just about performance, sure the look of a Mac may not make it perform better, but it certainly makes the hours I have to spend working in front of it far more enjoyable. But Mac's designs ARE functional. For instance, there is still not another computer out there that is as easy to open up and upgrade as a G4, you can open the box up with one finger and you can open it with the computer on. And with the use of superior materials, the Macs will live a much longer life. Which is true for Macs anyway, I've still got the Mac Plus that I bought in 1989, and it still works as well (actually better with upgrades) as the day I first unpacked it. I have managed to junk 4 PCs in that time.

Design is important, our lives would not be what they are now without good design.

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lemme get this straight..

somebody slams the garage door on a mini tower and we're supposed to get damp?
seems the boys dislodged the processor, hd, cd in the process.
at least there's some pc'ers complaining about the color beige.
progress is progress.

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10/30, 12:09am | report spam | close Reply |
re: sick of design?

iPod = walkman? you don't even 'get' the tiniest bit of what the iPod is - or its true value. I'm buying one for three reasons - tunes, data shuttle, and boot volume for managing a lab full of cubes. the cubes, by the way have proven a great investment, rock solid and the next logical step up from iMacs if you need more screen.
As for the expense of Apple machines - sorry - entry level for Apple, Dell and Gateway differ less than the price of a retail game.

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Anybody who can compare

this POS to the cube has no understanding of what the cube is. This thing is an embarassment to the intelligence of the computer buying public worldwide - only the most stupid, most illiterate Windows users would ever consider this c*** item.

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You guys are totally

missing the point. Notice that all it is a case and a motherboard. This isn't meant for the typical end user, but for small independent OEMs and x86 DIYers. Although the design is somewhat lacking, a few improvements and I'd definantly buy one. DIYers need power, and that's what this system really lacks. Slap on a better video card (GeForce 2 Go or Mobility Radeon) and AMD processor support and they could sell the unit for 3x the price and sell 10x as many. Imagine going to a lan party with a little box like that you can throw.

Could it look neater, sure, but what this is one of the first DIY zero footprint PCs, which means zero footprint PCs based on open standards. Open standards bring innovation, and then you'll have real progress. I hope better examples are forthcoming, but it's a start.

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10/30, 09:44am | report spam | close Reply |
Lol, maybe I'm sick of..

...strident know-it-alls with nothing to do but vent their spleen on the net, endlessly reiterating their tired points even if it's in answer to a different kind of question, and making endless assumptions about how little people who don't see eye to eye with them know about [fill in the blank]

Mac's designs ARE functional. For instance,
there is still not another computer out there that
is as easy to open up and upgrade as a G4, you
can open the box up with one finger and you can
open it with the computer on.

Design is important, our lives would not be what
they are now without good design.

I agree, but what I was talking about is more that I feel that Apple is putting design and style above function, which I think is a mistake. I agree that the G3/G4 case is a good design (although I have found a few flaws at the Institututional level...i.e. have you ever tried to move 36 unboxed G3s? Very hard to stack), but I think that Apple often sacrifices price and value for style and "oooh" factor. I don't think that good industrial design precludes a good prices value...as a matter of fact, I'd say the best industrial design makes things as inexpensive as possible while still maintaining quality.

iPod = walkman? you don't even 'get' the tiniest
bit of what the iPod is - or its true value.

Don't tell me what I do and don't get. I understand very well what the iPod is and isn't. It's a 5gb drive that is integrated with iTunes and has an mp3 player built into it. You can tell yourself it's a great value, but it's not, plain and simple. I can get a 20gb firewire drive for less, that granted has no place to plug in headphones, but I can live with that, since I have a walkman, and a stereo, and 3 cdplayers through out my house.

I don't think the iPod is a bad idea, I just think it's way too expensive for what it ultimately enables me to do. If they had put a 20 gb drive in, and left out the kowtowing RIAA comprimises, maybe I would agree, but frankly I already have a 12gb VST drive, and I don't see what's so compelling about a 5gb VST drive with iTunes built in....especially with all of the copy protection c*** built in.

I never thought Apple would penalize me for having 3 macs, but then again I thought that Apple was commited to the Quadra XX0/AV platform ( DSP made these macs the fastest ever!!!---Too bad nobody had any plans to write software for them)

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this reminds me of ...

the first palm pilots. for some reason, the world wasn't ready for the groundbreaking (or ill fated, as its full name has become) newton yet when palm reinvented the wheel (not nearly as elegantly) everyone thought it was the greatest. palm os 4.1 still doesn't do half of what newtonOS 2.0 did.

i have stopped arguing with people about newtons, cubes and iPods because the simple fact is that most people have no taste and you just can't force it on them. why should i buy a mercedes when hyundai has a better warranty and gets better gas mileage? they're both just cars. mercedes only has .2% of the car market. they are doomed! blah blah blah. apple will always be a loser when people try to devalue it to a commodity like the rest of the pc world. apple is not the computer company for the rest of us. it is the comapny for those of us with taste. all the other c*** that is out there that is "good enough" is for the rest of them. price is not the same as value.

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Re: lol, maybe I'm sick

Some guy wrote:

"If they had put a 20 gb drive in, and left out the kowtowing RIAA comprimises, maybe I would agree [...] I don't see what's so compelling about a 5gb VST drive with iTunes built in....especially with all of the copy protection c*** built in.

Uh, it's a *hard drive* -- what "copy protection?" Trying to start yet another urban myth about Apple hardware?

BTW, the iPod is only 65% of the volume of the smallest VST drive and, unlike the VSTs, is battery powered. Also, the iPod doesn't just support MP3 audio -- it also plays WAV and AIFF (uncompressed) files, too.

That funk you're in ain't caused by Apple, pal...

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updated 03:50 pm EST, Mon October 29, 2001

how do you spell crappy

Ugh

Yeccchh...

hehhe

value

Woohoo....

$250

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz�

Huh . . .

ROTFLMAO

LOL

BUTT UGLY!

Heheh.

YUCK!!!!

Lol...sick of design

Zero footprint PC

My old Atari St

Sick of Design?

lemme get this straight..

re: sick of design?

Anybody who can compare

You guys are totally

Lol, maybe I'm sick of..

this reminds me of ...

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