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Thursby posts beta of DAVE 3.1

updated 12:05 pm EDT, Mon October 22, 2001

 
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Thursby today announced a public beta of DAVE 3.1, its cross-platform networking software. Version 3.1 works with OS X 10.1 as well as Mac OS 8.6-9.2 and brings support for inkjet printing as well as support file sizes larger than 2GB and file names longer than 31 characters. DAVE 3.1 is scheduled for release early in November for $150 and will be offered as a free upgrade for customers currently using DAVE 2.5.2 and for those who have a support contract. Customers with older versions can upgrade for $90.


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  1. the cool gut

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    Could care less ....

    But, hey .... first post!

    Boo Yeah!

  1. \0

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    RE: Could care less ....

    a**

  1. EncodedRacint

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    DAVE for OS X?

    With Samba available, and native SMB support, what precisely is the point of DAVE anymore? They should work to provide a (better) gui to the command-line mount_smbfs and smbd config files.

    --Mark

  1. EncodedRacint

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    DAVE for OS X?

    With Samba available, and native SMB support, what precisely is the point of DAVE anymore? They should work to provide a (better) gui to the command-line mount_smbfs and smbd config files.

    --Mark

  1. kkneisley

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    DAVE vs. Samba

    I read about Samba, and I am not 100% clear on what it does, short of *replace* NT fileservers, and others. The question I have is does MS support SMB natively, or do you have to switch?

    The reason DAVE is around is for those Macs who are the minority on the network, but need access to MS servers/PCs, or need to share files to the network. All this without messing around with the MS computers. THAT alone is a benefit ;)

    I've been a DAVE user for a few years now and it is very transparent, if you don't use their "browser" to access the servers. Just set up an alias to the server and click to login!

    Looking forward to the SAMBA lessons...

  1. \0

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    Agreed

    Frankly, I also don't get much of the hoopla surrounding SAMBA. I'm on a home network with 2 other pc's. They are both running Win ME. I'm not about to start configuring them with SAMBA fileservers and the like. My parent's can't even send me email. Yet when I need to share files with them, DAVE has made it simple. I still think of DAVE as an invaluable tool until Apple makes a built in GUI tool to navigate shared PC drives.

  1. Ster

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    Clarification

    Samba is an open-source implementation of the SMB/CIFS (Server Message Block / Common Internet File System) specification. This is the protocol that Windows machines use for file & printer sharing. Thus, Windows machines don't have to change any settings.
    The SMB support built into OS X 10.1 is a customized verson of the open-source Samba client. It does not act as an SMB server. OS X Server implements both client and server, so it can show up under the Windows Network Neighborhood.
    DAVE is an SMB client/server solution for OS 9.x and is now being ported to OS X. As far as I understand, it does not rely on the 10.1 Samba client.
    I've found that there's some confusion about this. I hope this clears things up.
    -Ster

  1. kkneisley

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    Out of the box...

    So does Samba give me the abiltiy to connect to a Win Server right out of the box?

    It doesn't seem so. I figured OS X will connect throught various means to different flavors of Unix (nature of the beast), but it never really addressed the Windows side of business environments - you know, the one that is in place of most businesses.

  1. mmihalik

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    SMB Support in OS X

    You can connect to Win98SE or Win XP that has File Sharing turned on.

    From OSX, mount PC volume using smb://servername/volumename

    There is an Apple Knowledgebase article.

    To access files on OSX Mac from PC, turn filesharing on on the Mac, and access using ftp.

    Dave is useful for OS 9 Macs.

    Major deficiency of DAVE is that you cannot access PC print services unless you are sharing a Postscript printer on the PC.

    Would be real nice if there were an easy way to access non-Postscript shared PC printer; even if only a simple GDI printer or even just a text printer.

    One other printing trick: Print to PDF file on OS X Preview; save file on shared PC volume; use PDF Reader on PC to print the file.

    Mike

  1. loopless

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    Samba...

    Samba makes an OS X machine into a "server" for Windows networking. Your Mac will then appear in Windows "network neighborhood". Samba is very reliable and robust. But it does require some manual configuration.

    Built into OS X is a Windows networking client. That means any OS X 10.1 machine can "mount" a Windows SMB server without any additional software.

    Dave does BOTH of the above with a nice GUI. But is a nice GUI worth $149 vs. nada????

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