Just because a company doesn't PAY another company to SAY that their products are eco-friendly does it make the devices any less green? I'd say dropping certification makes the equipment inherently more green since the manufacturer is not wasting all the ink and energy to put the watchdogs logo on their product and packaging.

Yeah, this makes no sense to me, not to mention the eco stuff is on the page for them to get information if they have concerns still.

Apple should just not use glue for the battery, problem solved.

Where this'll hurt Apple most isn't among the politically correct (San Fran & the feds). There, Apple's arguments about it handling 100% of the recycling issues will carry some weight.

No, Apple will lose sales in another area--institutions such as high schools and colleges that keep their computer budget under control by doing repairs in-house. They're not going to carry about whether Apple recycles or not. They're going to look elsewhere because they can't fix what breaks, replace glued in batteries, or upgrade older devices. Apple is already a bit pricey for them. This policy is likely to make it too pricey over the lifetime of the product.

Apple is tired of the snail's pace with which the US government moves. That's why they removed their hardware from EPEAT, refuse to get FIPS certification for every operating system/encryption module, and don't bend over to threats from non-Mac users like the City of San Francisco and almost all federal agencies. If a federal agency or other corporate/educational user wants a Mac, there will always be ways to get one. Apple will continue to sell a lot of products to regular people, including people who have to put up with the antiquated policies of the US government (like me). As far as gluing certain components, every other manufacturer does this at some point in the construction of their products. As far as I'm concerned, too much effort is being placed on "easy" repairability instead of making a product that doesn't break. I'd much rather have a glued together MacBook Pro than piece of garbage anything from Dell, which was caught for making defective computers that fell apart as soon as you touched them. I'm all for a real green environment, not a fake green environment made up of companies that buy their way into certifications.

Here's an idea. If the Federal government wants to know how recyclable a product is, perhaps the EPA could start rating them. Relying on a company that is paid to say things are recyclable is kinda dumb.

Originally Posted by Athens


Apple should just not use glue for the battery, problem solved.

I'm curious as to why they glued the batteries in in the first place. They had to know that they would have issues with things like this - not to mention that it would make their own repairs harder. There must be some benefit to doing so that we're not seeing.

It means they get to do more of the repairs in house. Remember that batteries are not covered by Applecare, more battery replacements means more money, especially as it will help to cut out the 3rd party knock off or higher rated batteries too.

Apple's business is not selling repairs, or replacement batteries - and anyway, if there is a trick to removing them, the repair shops will learn soon enough.

it will be interesting to see if the next generation of retina's have glued in batteries. we haven't heard the last of this.

Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep

...more battery replacements means more money

I really doubt this. Apple, I think, would prefer not to be a service business. It's low margin.

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