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Mountain Lion updates to be funneled through Mac App Store

updated 01:40 pm EST, Thu February 16, 2012

Apple moves away from Software Update tech

Updates to OS X Mountain Lion will be delivered through the Mac App Store, Pocket-lint says it has learned through one of the company's private product briefings. Present and past versions of OS X have relied on a dedicated Software Update function. In switching to the Mac App Store for patching, Mountain Lion will mimic iOS' App Store-based update system.

Still unknown, though, is whether people will be required to sign up for an Apple ID. An account is normally mandatory for Mac App Store access, but some Mountain Lion owners could resent being forced to use an Apple ID for basic system functions. The information should emerge later into the Developer Preview program, which has only just begun. A commercial release of Mountain Lion is due sometime this summer.

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emulator@fronti
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02/16, 02:47pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
Enterprise, anyone?

I'm wondering how this will affect deployments in the enterprise environment. Apple, do you remember us?

Athens
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02/16, 03:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
...

"but some Mountain Lion owners could resent being forced to use an Apple ID for basic system functions."

So will us IT people like me who manage a bunch of stand alone macs...

Mr. Strat
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02/16, 03:33pm | report spam | close Reply |
PITA

Sounds like another pain in the a** for the enterprise

apple4ever
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02/16, 04:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
Enterprise

Yeah, my first thought was: can we still run our own internal SU servers? I don't want to download 10.8.1 600 times!

facebook_Michael
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02/16, 04:09pm | report spam | close Reply |
SUCKS

AS Much as I love Macs and Hate Windows for all my media and IT work, Apple is starting to Suck more and more, I guess after Mountian Lion will come pussycat and Macs will only be for kids. Is it time to get into linux for serious computer work instead of the new APPle STORE (the whole Mac platform). SUCKS APPLE

facebook_Michael
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02/16, 04:10pm | report spam | close Reply |
SUCKS

AS Much as I love Macs and Hate Windows for all my media and IT work, Apple is starting to Suck more and more, I guess after Mountian Lion will come pussycat and Macs will only be for kids. Is it time to get into linux for serious computer work instead of the new APPle STORE (the whole Mac platform). SUCKS APPLE

emulator@fronti
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02/16, 04:38pm | report spam | close Reply |
We haven't even deployed Lion

The whole user interface design just doesn't have the enterprise environment in mind. I agree with Facebook_Michael: Mac OS is targeted more for children and the entertainment crowd, and not the enterprise. I'm waiting for the day that apple discontinues its server OS. :-(

bobolicious
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02/16, 08:19pm | report spam | close Reply |
Couldn't agree more...

Apple moving to a 1 year OS 'churn' & dropping legacy support for Rosetta ( I just found out USB fax/modem too) has effectively wiped out access to:

- all my past business correspondence (appleworks)
- all my historical accounting (quickbooks pro)
- legal digital communication available (fax via modem)
- my main application software beyond about 5 years

Hard copy & 'old tech' is rapidly increasingly the only way for business to be 'safe' that records will be both accessible & reusable.

With Lion the Mac has in my opinion become a business cripple...

Mr. Strat
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The least..

The least they could do is fix SMBX before moving on...

_Rick_V_
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02/16, 09:06pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
more enterprise

My gawd, methinks none of you are *real* IT people, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Any moderately large organization will have their own internal update server AND block Apple's own update servers (either at the firewall, or on the DNS server so that the Apple update server names don't resolve). Because (as Apple4ever points out) you cannot have 600 machines trying to download a large update at the same time!

That's just IT 101. Even my wife's school district does this... Try Googling for many of the tools available, before spreading disinformation. And the same thing for Windows updates as well.

_Rick_V_
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02/16, 09:15pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
at bobolicious

Apple is trying hard to eliminate legacy methods for doing things. For example, the last PowerPC Mac produced was over 5 years ago. Software written for these older OS's and computers are not taking advantage of today's technology, and therefore a substandard experience on today's Macs.

And in your case, AppleWorks is even older, and is a perfect example of software that Apple is trying to eliminate. Even back in the day, it barely functioned under MacOS X. However, the good news is, Pages will open old AppleWorks files.

DaJoNel
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02/16, 11:16pm | report spam | close Reply |
Rick V is completely right.

Apple is about moving forward. Microsoft is about stagnation (until Windows 8). Lion, Mountain Lion, and beyond ARE the classic Mac experience. If we have never clung to old ways while Steve Jobs was alive, why should we with Cook?

emulator@fronti
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02/17, 09:13am | report spam | close Reply |
re: _Rick_V_

Rick_V:

I'm not spreading any disinformation. I'm simply responding the what the article is saying. Right now, we DO use Apple's software up service on our Mac OS X Servers to deliver updates to client computers. If this article is true, it appears that this will now longer be possible. We can block Apple's update method via the Apple Store, but that leaves us with no alternative to distribute updates from a centralized location, as Software Update appears left out in the cold.

The only other way I can think of right off would be to download the update once and then distribute it to clients via Apple Remote Desktop, assuming Apple keeps the updates in the same package installation format.

testudo
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02/17, 03:01pm | report spam | close Reply |
Re: more enterprise

And apparently you should go to your wife's school to learn comprehension. The people are specifically asking whether they'd still be able to run their own SU servers. Because they are real IT people. Maybe it is you who is not and just decide that anyone can't be if they're not kissing apple's behind.

testudo
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Re: at bobolicious

Apple is trying hard to eliminate legacy methods for doing things. For example, the last PowerPC Mac produced was over 5 years ago. Software written for these older OS's and computers are not taking advantage of today's technology, and therefore a substandard experience on today's Macs.

Yeah, that's it. It's about the user experience, nothing more. Old app, must be old experience!

Um, but what about the 5 year old Intel app? Isn't that also a sub-standard experience? Shouldn't Apple just ban any app whose creation date isn't within the last three years, since they aren't using the latest technology? Oh, right, I'm sure they're working on that right now.

And in your case, AppleWorks is even older, and is a perfect example of software that Apple is trying to eliminate.

Why? So I can be forced to spend money and time to upgrade a set of software? And then more time to upgrade my documents and fix the issues? And more time just learning the new software (which can't do all that the old software can do, but that's OK, because it has nifty transitions and things)?

Moving forward makes sense if there's good reasoning behind it. Apple has never expressed good reasoning for the user. All their reasoning is how it's good for Apple.

Even back in the day, it barely functioned under MacOS X. However, the good news is, Pages will open old AppleWorks files.

No idea what the h*** you're talking about. It not only worked well, it works well to this day, assuming you have Snow Leopard. h*** I love it because it doesn't use the stupid "Inspector" to throw all your commands onto (I guess it's because everyone understands the complexities of those little icons and buttons and tabs and such).

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Mountain Lion updates to be funneled through Mac App Store

updated 01:40 pm EST, Thu February 16, 2012

Apple moves away from Software Update tech

Enterprise, anyone?

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PITA

Enterprise

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SUCKS

We haven't even deployed Lion

Couldn't agree more...

The least..

more enterprise

at bobolicious

Rick V is completely right.

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Rick V is completely right.

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