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Google, Oracle still without Android deal, to talk again

updated 12:45 pm EDT, Thu September 22, 2011

Google and Oracle may see 3rd, 4th settlement days

Google and Oracle are likely to have a third or possibly fourth day of required settlement talks after deadlocked negotiations continued on for a second day, according to orders from presiding Magistrate Judge Grewal. Attorneys from both sides are to call the judge on Thursday and determine when "further discussions" will take place. The presences of Google CEO Larry Page and his Oracle equivalent Larry Ellison is also now optional, as Grewal wanted to know if either side thought the executives would be needed.

With a possible trial date on October 31, any further meetings are likely to be limited to one or two more. A formal trial will likely put an end to settlement talks unless Google faces the prospect of a permanent ban or a steep fine.

Much of the impasse hasn't been about whether or not Android is violating Java copyrights and patents but on the extent of the payments. Google wants as little as $100 million, which would amount to a one-time payment, while Oracle wants $2 billion plus and could demand hundreds of millions or billions every year for the foreseeable future.

More so than patent lawsuits from Apple or Microsoft, Oracle's lawsuit is considered one of the biggest threats to Android. A ban or stiff royalty could affect every Android device, not just one manufacturer, and force a steep hike in prices when Android goes on sale. [via Florian Mueller]




by MacNN Staff

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  1. SockRolid

    Joined: Dec 1969

    +7

    Android has only months to live

    A ban or stiff royalty could affect every Android device...

    So much for "free." If Google had thought things through, they could have decided to pay the royalty to Oracle for the legal use of Java. But no, they simply couldn't be bothered or didn't care.

    Thinking things through just isn't part of Google's culture. And it's going to cost them dearly.

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