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http://www.macnn.com/articles/11/09/09/area.residents.worry.about.traffic.overpopulation/

Cupertino mayor claims new Apple campus 'not a done deal'

updated 10:55 am EDT, Fri September 9, 2011

 

Area residents worry about traffic, overpopulation


Apple's new Cupertino campus may not have a completely smooth path towards approval, the results of a local public consultation suggest. The meeting was hosted by Cupertino mayor Gilbert Wong, who himself claims that the new complex is "definitely not a done deal," since it has to undergo a "public process." Many people at the meeting also expressed worries connected to the scale of Apple's ambitions.

One of the biggest concerns is reportedly traffic, since the facility will hold up to 13,000 workers, who may clog both the immediate neighborhood and Interstate 280. It will also attract a number of visitors. The combined groups are expected to put intense strain on local resources, including things like schools, parking, housing and hotel space. The impact of construction of will moreover last about three years, and as a whole the campus could potentially generate extra noise in a suburban environment. Some Cupertino residents have proposed that I-280 could use a dedicated Apple exit if the campus goes through.

Opposition was not total at the meeting, since some people argued that the economic value of the facility will outweigh any damage. Local council members are said to be strongly backing the project as well. Apple, for its part, is thought to be unwilling to scale back the size of the campus. "The fact is, we're growing like a weed," claims Apple project manager Terry Reagan. "We need the space."


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  1. locosam

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Dec 2007

    +14

    Really?

    If it wasn't for Apple Cupertino could be confused with a pasta shape. Make the roads bigger. Yeah, construct an exit. Accommodating businesses should be going on all over the country. In a time when few companies are innovating and hiring, Cupertino wants to exercise their "power?" I'll bet the hotels filled up would really disappoint the hotel operators and the restaurants for all those visitors... wouldn't want that. We ought to be doing anything, anywhere to help companies increase revenue so that they can hire Americans to make American products and compete. And pay taxes?? Damn!

  1. hayesk

    Professional Poster

    Joined: Sep 1999

    +9

    Lip service

    I think the mayor is paying lip service to those opposed. That happens in every city.

    Bottom line is Apple needs to house 13000 workers. If Cupertino doesn't want the tax revenue from Apple (which I'm certain they do), then Apple will move somewhere else. Other than a few short-sighted "don't ever change my town, ever" types, I don't think anyone wants that.

  1. ATPTourFan

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    Joined: Apr 2003

    +7

    Wong is a Clown

    If anyone watched the video of Jobs presenting the concept of their new beautiful Cupertino campus, you would agree that Mayor Wong and the others on the Cupertino city government are way over matched for this kind of discussion. It would be a shame if these clowns got in the way of Apple maintaining their presence in Cupertino.

  1. rtamesis

    Dedicated MacNNer

    Joined: Jan 2000

    +1

    Whiners

    Most of those folks objecting to Apple's new campus will quickly shut up if Apple threatened to move their HQ and all the jobs that came with it to a different city.

  1. bonzo77

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    Joined: Apr 2008

    0

    Cupertino Fail

    someone needs to feel like they have to wield their power

  1. pairof9s

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Jan 2008

    0

    Not to worry everyone...

    This is politics, remember? Someone just has gotten their proper % kickback yet from Apple. This will be taken care of shortly and the vote to build will pass.

    /

  1. testudo

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Aug 2001

    -9

    OMG!

    How dare a community/town actually follow their bylaws and statutes and go through all the steps needed to approve such a plan? Don't they know this is Apple here? They should just rubber stamp anything they want to do!

  1. testudo

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    Joined: Aug 2001

    -9

    Re: Whiners

    Most of those folks objecting to Apple's new campus will quickly shut up if Apple threatened to move their HQ and all the jobs that came with it to a different city.

    Or many might be happy as it'll cut down on all the idiots riding on their roads feeling so superior.

  1. rtamesis

    Dedicated MacNNer

    Joined: Jan 2000

    +1

    Re: Whiners

    "Or many might be happy as it'll cut down on all the idiots riding on their roads feeling so superior."

    Yup, they'll be very happy as they contemplate their future when their unemployment checks run out and their gas money vanishes while they drive their cars around looking for work in traffic free roads once Apple moves to a more business-friendly city.

  1. tightzeit

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    Joined: Jul 2006

    +2

    Actually,

    much of this kind of discussion is about getting business to contribute a little more to community. Business discussion is all about leverage and outcome.

    I'm not in the US but I would expect my local members to do as much as possible for the local community in terms of added infrastructure because business will never do it otherwise.

    But they will expect the roads to be surfaced, the drains to be clean, the sidewalks to be paved and usable, public transport infrastructure to be provided and so on and so forth.

    Apple has no intention of moving and it would take a massive gaffe to make that happen, so the game is in how much they can glean from them.

    Which, given the way Apple historically operates, is very little.

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