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Lion release breaks numerous Adobe titles

updated 10:50 am EDT, Thu July 21, 2011

Flash Player loses hardware acceleration

The release of OS X Lion is causing problems with a host of Adobe software, a support article shows. "Known issues" of varying degrees exist with high-profile titles such as Acrobat, Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Lightroom, Photoshop and Premiere Pro. The biggest problems however lie with Flash, spanning apps like Flash Builder, Flash Catalyst and most notably Flash Player.

Whereas the latest versions of Builder and Catalyst may simply not work well in Lion, Player is experiencing higher CPU use in Lion due to hardware acceleration being disabled. Flash is already an infamously resource-intensive plugin, particularly on Macs, which have long had more trouble with the software than Windows PCs. Apple CEO Steve Jobs has in the past singled out Flash for causing stability and security issues.

Some other key Lion issues with Adobe software include the lack of Safari 5.1 compatibility for Reader and Acrobat plugins, and Droplets breaking in Photoshop CS3 through CS5. Adobe also points out that because Lion abandons Rosetta, any software from CS2 or earlier will no longer function.

Regarding taking advantage of the new features in Lion, such as Auto Save, Restore, Versions, Full Screen Mode and added gestures, the company says it is still undecided. "Since many of these features require new code in order to work properly, Adobe will investigate which ones make sense to our customers for inclusion in future versions of our products," it writes.

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gprovida
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07/21, 11:06am | report spam | close Reply |
Adobe Remains Late to Need

Again why Flash and Apple OS community second class citizens.

dmsimmer
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07/21, 11:09am | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
What's "lazy" in Spanish?

Adobe ("house" in Spanish) has had a year to get ready for this. Apple isn't trying to do anything other than advance my user experience.

prl99
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07/21, 11:10am | report spam | close Reply |
doesn't surprise me

Adobe is a Mac developer so they have had access to the beta versions like all developers. Adobe is like Quicken, refusing to keep current, relying on old software to make as much money as they can without doing any new work. I'm loading Illustrator CS4 and Acrobat to see if they will work. These are the only two Adobe applications I need and I'd rather replace both but haven't found an adequate replacement for Illustrator and creating forms in Acrobat is better than in other applications. I always remove their Safari pdf plugin anyway so that doesn't bother me.

revco
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07/21, 11:10am | report spam | close Reply |
Join the Program

Adobe really needs to join the Apple Developer Program to get pre-release and betas of Apple's new OS. That way they can warn their users of any possible issues. Yeah, right.

bnumerick
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07/21, 11:11am | report spam | close Reply |
Strange

I just tested Flash Builder 4 and Flash Catalyst CS5. At first glance they appear to work. Based on the tech doc they make it sound like they don't work at all. Then again it's not my work computer so I just opened them up quick threw together something simple.

vinnieA2
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07/21, 11:33am | report spam | close Reply |
an this is why subscription might suck

Suppose you just subscribed to accomplish a short term problem when something like this happens...Adobe gonna give you a discount??? Not!

darkelf
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07/21, 11:35am | report spam | close Reply |
going to miss Rosetta

looking forward to Lion, but it's going to be difficult without Rosetta. there's a lot of good software out there which hasn't been keeping current. hopefully, kicking the Rosetta crutch out will prompt some updates, though.

cashxx
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07/21, 11:48am | report spam | close Reply |
No excuse

There is no reason.....Lion has been available to developers for a while they should have had updates available on release day or soon after!

Mr. Fartleberry
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Adobe PSE should be OK

If it isn't sold thru the AP store I doubt they'll pay much attention.

Inkling
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07/21, 12:03pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
InDesign

InDesign 5.0 and 5.5 seem to be OK, with the only problems being the now-hidden user Libraries folder and Lion not shipping with Java. Those aren't anything Adobe could have prepared for. Hiding Libraries is just Apple being silly. Like hostility to Flash, not including Java (and soon not supporting it) is just part of Apple's growing tendency not to 'play well with others.' That'll probably lessen after Steve Jobs retires.

Adobe may take a pass on adding higher-level, Mac-specific Lion features such as Versioning and Full Page. Because they develop for Windows and OS X, they usually do things their own way, so the Windows and Mac versions are alike. In fact, InDesign already has a Full-page-like feature.

Foxypaco
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The Joys of Upgrading

I'm still happily running Leopard. =)

hayesk
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07/21, 12:33pm | report spam | close Reply |
Breaks?

Breaks is a strong word. Yes, Adobe apps have issues, but the software isn't exactly useless.

mr100percent
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07/21, 12:37pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
Click2flash

That's why I love using Click2flash, it shows flash rectangles on the screen but doesn't load it until you click on it. They say it even increases laptop battery life because flash is such a drain.

testudo
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07/21, 01:28pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
but

You all are also making the assumption that Adobe products didn't work with the pre-release builds. One would think we would have heard up and down the block about the problems with these programs from other users (oh, right, no one would dare break an NDA to point out issues, never happens).

And Apple has been known to keep some changes out of their releases (or not release all builds) to developers in order to keep things 'a surprise'.

automorrow
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07/21, 02:03pm | report spam | close Reply |
BEWARE MAC USERS!

Even with OS X 10.6.8 there are performance issues serious enough to cause quite a stir on the Adobe Forums.

I for one have had problems since January .. and was a lone wolf .. until now whereas more customers have the same issues I have. Adobe is week to reply .. there are plenty of bug reports...

noibs
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07/21, 02:44pm | report spam | close Reply |
Worthless

The modern Adobe has never, ever cared about the Mac operating system or its users. They are always dragging their feet and always late. Their software is completely bloated and their copy protection schemes are onerous. It's hard to not compare them with Microsoft--who used a PPC-based installer in Office for Mac 2008. And...Microsoft still hasn't written true Cocoa apps for the Mac OS.

SockRolid
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07/21, 02:47pm | report spam | close Reply |
Adobe => Bloatware

Adobe dragged their feet for 10 years before porting all their apps to Mac OS X. That probably slowed down OS X adoption among professionals.

Apple can't let that happen again. Especially if and when Apple transitions some or all of their Mac line to ARM-based chips. That might never happen, but if it does, Apple might need to roll out their own "pro" apps to replace Adobe's. Looking forward to that.

Jonathan-Tanya
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There is a great excuse

Guys I went through beta 1, 2, and 3 of Lion and I can tell you that what happens when something breaks, is you hope like heck Apple fixes the bug they've created.

And usually that is what happens, but then one day, Apple takes a beta release and declares it Golden master - and all of sudden you are there holding the bag.

Don't blame adobe entirely - and guess what even 10.6.8 broke a lot of my programs, let alone Lion.

My suggestion, don't buy Lion immediately - let someone else do the troubleshooting, as a matter of fact, this machine I'm on is at 10.6.7 - and I have no plans to update until the bugs are fixed by --------hold your breath-----wait for it------by APPLE

facebook_Brad
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07/21, 02:50pm | report spam | close Reply |
Bye Adobe, for now

I am now Photoshop-less for the first time. Last night I cleared away all non-compatible software. Mostly this amounted to Adobe Creative Suite. I didn't upgrade beyond CS because I bought Adobe software for OS X that wasn't ready for OS X. Over a decade later, my copy of Photoshop was still incapable of focussing it's window when switching apps :-)

facebook_Brad
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Bye Adobe, for now

I am now Photoshop-less for the first time. Last night I cleared away all non-compatible software. Mostly this amounted to Adobe Creative Suite. I didn't upgrade beyond CS because I bought Adobe software for OS X that wasn't ready for OS X. Over a decade later, my copy of Photoshop was still incapable of focussing it's window when switching apps :-)

facebook_Brad
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Bye Adobe, for now

I am now Photoshop-less for the first time. Last night I cleared away all non-compatible software. Mostly this amounted to Adobe Creative Suite. I didn't upgrade beyond CS because I bought Adobe software for OS X that wasn't ready for OS X. Over a decade later, my copy of Photoshop was still incapable of focussing it's window when switching apps :-)

Makosuke
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07/21, 02:55pm | report spam | close Reply |
Sadly funny

"Flash Player may cause higher CPU activity when playing a YouTube video."

...And this is a new issue since when? I can't remember the last time that Flash DIDN'T cause high CPU activity doing just about anything.

When displaying a slideshow of images in a strip 160x400 pixels takes an entire core of a 3GHz i7, telling us high CPU use is an issue in need of fixing is kind of ludicrous.

sidewaysdesign
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I don't think Adobe is really putting enough effor

There was a time when Adobe's engineers could make a Mac sing (e.g. early Photoshop). Maybe there's some residual lameness from Macromedia in the mix.

It's bizarre that the companies are so out of whack -- I've had major problems with Flash for at least two years, though recently that had levelled off (until Lion, that is).

Nonetheless, regarding the YouTube-Flash problem, it's worth pointing out that YouTube account prefs can be changed so that videos are in HTML5 rather than Flash. This works with embedded YouTube content as well.

macmediausa
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I need a native Freehand!

Want to try Lion but not having Rosetta for Macromedia Freehand would kill me. Adobe had to use its dominant position to buy the company out years ago and shortly afterwards kill the great program. I hate Illustrator and hope Adobe dies a slow death ( unless they can spin off Freehand and let someone else develop it) .

revenant
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Let's put the blame where it belongs...

Let's put the blame squarely where it belongs: On Apple's holier-than-thou shoulders. Apple is too quick to abandon it's users en masse. Perhaps the developers had the info to make changes, but why should they have to change things that are not really that old just because Apple want's everything different for no particularly good reason. This is not the only thing Lion breaks....

TheBum
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07/21, 04:43pm | report spam | close Reply |
Agility: thy name is not Adobe

Agility has never been part of Adobe's DNA. Apple isn't particularly speeding at fixing issues either, but they look like a cheetah compared to Adobe's slothfulness.

imNat-imadouche
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Abandon Apple

They target idiots not professionals.

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Lion release breaks numerous Adobe titles

updated 10:50 am EDT, Thu July 21, 2011

Flash Player loses hardware acceleration

Adobe Remains Late to Need

What's "lazy" in Spanish?

doesn't surprise me

Join the Program

Strange

an this is why subscription might suck

going to miss Rosetta

No excuse

Adobe PSE should be OK

InDesign

The Joys of Upgrading

Breaks?

Click2flash

but

BEWARE MAC USERS!

Worthless

Adobe => Bloatware

There is a great excuse

Bye Adobe, for now

Bye Adobe, for now

Bye Adobe, for now

Sadly funny

I don't think Adobe is really putting enough effor

I need a native Freehand!

Let's put the blame where it belongs...

Agility: thy name is not Adobe

Abandon Apple

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Bye Adobe, for now

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