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iLife '11 book listing at Amazon UK hints iDVD alive [U]

updated 08:00 pm EDT, Mon October 4, 2010

iWeb '11 to be "completely rewritten"?

(Updated with additional discoveries) At least one listing discovered at Amazon UK today backs claims that iLife '11 is due soon. The entry for a German help guide mentions both the creative suite as well as references to it coming "with apps for Mac, iPhone 4, iPod and iPad." The mentions are likely references to the current iMovie app for the iPhone 4 and fourth generation iPod touch.

The book would arrive in November, although it's unlikely that Amazon or author Daniel Mandl would have direct knowledge of when iLife '11 would ship.

A separate entry for an iMovie '11 book also exists and makes direct mention of iDVD as part of the larger suite. Rumors had persisted that Apple might drop iDVD, but it's implied here that it will remain. The second book is also unofficially slated to ship in November.

Apple in recent years has taken to reducing the frequency of iLife releases and is increasingly tying them to new systems rather than separate events. iLife '08 was released alongside the first aluminum iMacs in August 2007, and iLife '09 arrived with Apple's final appearance at Macworld in tandem with the unibody 17-inch MacBook Pro. Without Macworld plans, Apple is free to ship a future version of iLife on its own schedule.

Update: The website has published further discoveries, including a publish date for the German book of November 2011, as well as a translated summary from the German Amazon listing that includes tidbits such as that the iLife '11 apps will be 64-bit; that iDVD will be incorporated into iMovie; that additional social-network integration is being added to all apps, particularly to iPhoto; that iWeb will be "completely rewritten," and that there will be an entirely new application included in the suite. [via 9to5Mac]






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  1. vasic

    Joined: Dec 1969

    -18

    Apps für iPad???

    Apparently, this iLife 11 is coming out on both platforms (and, no, that's now Mac and Windows; that's Mac and iOS).

    If this story holds any water, Apple is porting more serious versions of iLife over to iOS. We should soon expect larger-screen iOS devices (say, iMacs?). The path is becoming increasingly clear: Mac OS X is nearing its retirement.

  1. PRoth

    Joined: Dec 1969

    +7

    Where the heck is...

    new version of iWork?

  1. Marook

    Joined: Dec 1969

    +7

    Well,

    .. it does not state how many of the apps run on iOS - and since iMovie is already there, who is surprised?
    Maybe they will have a lite version of GarrageBand for iOS, but the others does not really make sense, since there is already a build-in 'iPhoto' in iOS - even though it could do with more features.
    Maybe iWeb for iOS would make sense?

    @vasic: Stating that OS X is close to dead is as stupid as stating Apple is about to go bankrupt! Not gonna happen!

  1. vasic

    Joined: Dec 1969

    -3

    So funny

    Looks like our readers here are stuck in 20th century.

    Apple has finally built an OS that is intuitive. There is absolutely no chance they will leave it only on mobile devices.

    We'll have to wait and see, but my guess is, in about a year's time, we will see a new iMac with multi-touch screen, and it will likely run both Mac OS X and iOS. At first, iOS will run in some sandbox; newer versions of iOS will allow booting directly, with Mac OS X running in a 'blue box' (like Classic), until eventually even that goes away. By then, iOS will have evolved into a full-featured OS, with file system access and all other features necessary for a proper desktop OS.

    Mouse will take its well-deserved place in the museum of computing history, right next to the punch cards and acoustic-coupled modem...

  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969

    -2

    Re: Well,

    @vasic: Stating that OS X is close to dead is as stupid as stating Apple is about to go bankrupt! Not gonna happen!


    Why not? As Steve said himself back in 96:

    "If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."

  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969

    -1

    Re: So funny

    Apple has finally built an OS that is intuitive. There is absolutely no chance they will leave it only on mobile devices.

    The OS is NOT intuitive. It's simplistic. Simple makes it 'easy' to use, but it doesn't make it the end-all-be-all of OSes.

    For example, how exactly do I get a PDF document from one program to another? Is it really that easy?

    We'll have to wait and see, but my guess is, in about a year's time, we will see a new iMac with multi-touch screen, and it will likely run both Mac OS X and iOS.

    And Apple will soon be hit with a liability lawsuit from people claiming iMac-elbow, soreness caused by using touch screen the whole time.

    And, sorry, but so far there's no virtual keyboard that is as easy to use or as quick to type on than an actual physical one. Just guessing where keys are does not make for typing without looking.

    At first, iOS will run in some sandbox; newer versions of iOS will allow booting directly, with Mac OS X running in a 'blue box' (like Classic), until eventually even that goes away. By then, iOS will have evolved into a full-featured OS, with file system access and all other features necessary for a proper desktop OS.

    Except, for iOS to become a full-featured OS (with, as you say, full file system access and all the other necessary features), you've lost all the ease of use and simplicity that makes it 'intuitive'. It then just becomes, I don't know, another version of OS X.

    Of course, all this may be what Apple wants. Total control of everything. For if macs move to iOS, then they get to control every app that is installed on your system, prevent you from deleting Apple apps you don't need, force you to run things how they want you to. It is Steve's dream.

    Too bad that at that point, all serious computer users (you know, those who make their living using them, not just for typing email and browsing MacNN) will have moved to Windows or Linux or OS X-free.

    Mouse will take its well-deserved place in the museum of computing history, right next to the punch cards and acoustic-coupled modem...

  1. manolosf

    Joined: Dec 1969

    -1

    too good to be true

    has no one noticed that the cover of the iLife book uses the same iLife logo from iLife '09? Apple changes this image with every iteration of iLife. The book could just be a rumor-mill magnet. Some of the contents sound good and I hope they're true, but it didn't take an Apple insider to come up with the ideas...
    64-bit = Duh,
    iDVD into iMovie = easy fix for iDVD rumors,
    social network integration "particularly to iPhoto" = this has already been done, so where's the real surprise (maybe working it in with Ping?),
    iWeb rewrite = it's overdue, so why not,
    GarageBand = (no one ever comes up with rumors for GarageBand, so i didn't expect one here).

    In all, I hope this is true and I've already saved up for my iLife and iWork upgrades when they come out. But, this isn't the first time Amazon UK has listed books like this and they weren't exactly right, so i wouldn't put too much stock into this one either.

  1. elroth

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    iDVD into iMovie?

    If iDVD is incorporated into iMovie, then it probably won't work with iMovie HD or even with Final Cut Express. It probably also means it will be dumbed down, with less user control.

    Bummer. Double bummer.

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