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RIM on BlackBerry app count: "we don't need 200 fart apps"

updated 05:30 pm EDT, Wed September 29, 2010

RIM justifies low App World count versus iPhone

RIM VP of product platform management Alan Panezic defended BlackBerry App World's low 10,000 app count at DevCon by striking back at Apple and Google. He rejected the notion that hitting 50,000 or otherwise increasing sheer quantity was important and reiterated the notion that RIM valued "super apps," or heavily used apps that will both improve the phone and be helpful to developers. Android and iPhone app counts were considered deceptive since they include a large amount of redundant and low value apps.

"We don't need 200 fart apps in App World," he said, according to Recombu. "Those are apps you'll use three or four times then never open again. You're not looking at ads, clicking on ads or buying premium upgrades, and the app isn't adding any value to your device."

However, Panezic acknowledged that BlackBerry app sales were poor relative to the phone's market share and blamed at least some of the sluggishness on cost. BlackBerry apps are "so darn expensive" compared to those on other stores, he said.

While partly accurate, the statements sidestepped many of the issues commonly criticized with App World. Many of the higher prices were imposed by RIM itself as, until App World 2.0 arrived last month, it required that any paid app cost at least $3 where Android and iOS apps could cost as little as 99 cents.

The claim to quality has also been called into question as the company as many of the larger titles are often ports from other platforms. Many apps heralded on other platforms are also difficult or impossible; the company has devoted little attention to graphics until the BlackBerry PlayBook and doesn't equip its phones with fast graphics, excluding them from most gaming as well as other visually intensive content.

App World's accessibility has been one of the more outstanding concerns as well. Until the Torch and later BlackBerry phones, the store was strictly an optional download and in many cases was overlooked by users who didn't realize it was available.

by MacNN Staff



  1. Foe Hammer

    Joined: Dec 1969


    We Don't Need 200 f*** Apps ...

    ... the apps and the number of them we do have stink enough.

  1. Makosuke

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Avoiding The Issue

    RIM's VP is absolutely correct on this; thousands of quickie 99 cent or free apps aren't, at least in my view, nearly as important as a smaller number of important and/or really good apps. The MacOS platform has thrived on this theory for years, in fact.

    That said, chaff and good stuff are not mutually exclusive. Just because there are 200 f*** apps doesn't mean Apple's App Store doesn't have those big, important apps--on the contrary, it has more of them than all of the competing platforms combined.

    Which is RIM's real problem; if you're looking for anything other than enterprise email, their platform has a few good apps, while the iPhone has a LOT of good apps, plus tens of thousands of lesser ones or c***.

    And of course Apple is actually trying to reduce the signal-to-noise ratio, at least a little, with the App Store submission process, so it's not like all the competitors are a total free-for-all, either..

  1. nat

    Joined: Dec 1969


    enough already

    as Makosuke points out the app store has those quality apps. these buttheads that keep brining up these stupid apps are basically trying to say the app store is a joke.

    and what are they going to do when the f** apps show up? ban them? uh oh. but what about my "freedom"? they're taking it away but not allowing me to have that choice. isn't that what people have been crying about?

  1. byRyan

    Joined: Dec 1969


    200 f*** apps

    I have and use at least 200 f*** apps. See you get unique sounds with each one, so if you keep using the same app, people will recognize the sound. I started with iFart, and then migrated to uFart, and I am hoping to tie into my home gaming needs with WiiFart.

    Sometimes I need a f*** with a timer, and other-times, I want to call someone and f*** in their ear when they pick up. Finally sometimes I need to send a link to my bosses computer which will cause it to f*** when clicked, and there just isn't one app that can do all this, so while Blackberry dude derides fartapps, I am patiently waiting for the ButtBerry app before I make the platform switch,

  1. byRyan

    Joined: Dec 1969


    what the f***

    wow - I had no Idea f a r t was considered a bad word! You could never tell by reading the article - I mean the author is throwing down F-bombs left and right! It kinda makes it look like I'm saying f*** half the time too - I mean do we need to sensor all four letter f words.

    and what's so bad about a f*** anyways - its a natural human function... although I guess the same can be said about s***, c***, a**, a******, d***, p****, c***, and even f****** (even if you don't do it - your parents did)

    so who gives a f*** if I f***!

  1. Herod

    Joined: Dec 1969



    hahahahaha. the censorship of the work is funnier then the actual act.

  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969


    of course not

    As the AppStore has proven, you need at least a thousand!

  1. iphonerulez

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Every iHater says the Apple App Store

    is filled with 99% useless apps since they've personally downloaded each one to test them out. Who cares? iOS isn't going anywhere anytime soon because of RIM. Wall Street has chosen RIM as the whipping boy of the mobile sector, so they'll be busy enough just trying to keep their share price from dropping under $40.

  1. facebook_Justin

    Via Facebook

    Joined: Sep 2010


    comment title

    f*** apps! Oh wow these are some damn nice f*** apps then. Video games from major developers like Capcom, EA, Ubisoft, and more, apps like Facebook with innovative new features like places, apps to let you list and buy stuff from eBay, apps to manage multiple bank accounts from different banks all in one place, apps to let you chat on numberous IM clients all at the same time. These are some damn good f*** apps let me tell you. In fact, these f*** apps are so good I have purchased all of the ones that were available for purchase, to remove the ads and add new features.

  1. Makosuke

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Ok, I fully understand the desire to asterisk out some crude words, but who the heck adds f-art to their banned word dictionary? Particularly when not just the article being commented on, but the title of said article, uses the word in question. Also, where I come from, c*** (as in the app word, not the nasty one) isn't even close to profanity.

    I used to use autocensor on my forums, until people started trying to discuss Princess Mononoke and it kept censoring the name "Ashitaka", which was just ridiculous. At that point I decided to turn it off and just do the policing manually if necessary.

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