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Schiller refused to sign Google NDA, says source

updated 04:35 pm EDT, Wed September 22, 2010

Apple VP made 'big deal' of incident

Apple's VP of worldwide product marketing, Phil Schiller, once came into conflict with Google while visiting the latter's offices several years ago, a source claims. The executive is said to have been at the building for a meeting, and as he entered, he was asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement common amongst Silicon Valley businesses. Schiller is then alleged to have made a "big deal" out of refusing, according to Silicon Alley Insider, insisting that he would either attend the meeting or sign the NDA, but not do both.

Google is believed to have relented for two main reasons. The first was Schiller's need to share information with other people in Apple marketing. The executive is also said to have argued that because Apple and Google already had a separate NDA in place, another one would be redundant.

At the time, Apple and Google are thought to have had friendly relations. The companies' partnership has since soured, however, as a result of several factors, such as Android's competition with the iPhone. App Store rules also block Google from in-app advertising, although Apple has yet to enforce the restriction.

by MacNN Staff



  1. Spacemoose

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Poor Journalism

    "App Store rules also block Google from in-app advertising, although Apple has yet to enforce the restriction."

    Not true.

    Never true.

    They introduced policy which prevented in-app information mining by Google, but never in-app advertising.

  1. jdonahoe

    Joined: Dec 1969


    This is news?

    Actually, I felt the same way when I would try to buy anything at Radio Shack and they would want me to give them my address and other info before selling to me. I finally had to say "sell me the dang cable or I'll go elsewhere". It really soured me on buying anything from them.

  1. ggirton

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Good thing he never signed.
    What if he had? Yikes!

  1. rtbarry

    Joined: Dec 1969



    How is this even news??

  1. redcapzero

    Joined: Dec 1969


    comment title


  1. Bobfozz

    Joined: Dec 1969


    don't like it

    don't read it... what is wrong with you?

  1. daqman

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Good for him!

    This reminds me of something that happened to me last year. I was asked to take part in a review panel, two days stuck in a room from 8:00 am to 7:30 pm listening to talks. Then discussion and writing a report. Not fun. When I arrived at the site where the review was being held they wouldn't let me on site until I signed a whole load of stuff that I wasn't willing to sign. Basically they were used to dealing with employees and contractors not unpaid invited guests. The documents that they presented to me, if I'd signed them, gave them to much freedom for legal action. They were getting my advice for free and so didn't own the advice and couldn't prevent me from giving the same advice to someone else. There were several pages of legalese that I didn't fully understand and I didn't have a tame lawyer close at hand. I went back to the hotel and waited for someone to come and get me, which they did with apologies and no signatures required.

  1. Jonathan-Tanya

    Joined: Dec 1969


    NDA madness

    Well we may think its 'commonplace' in the industry, but if some company is unproven, seems a bit unlikely to succeed, I'm not going to sign their NDA. And if that means I don't have info on their plans - so be it, I don't care. If you really want my input (or more likely for me to give you money), you'll have to chance releasing some info without any NDA in place, cause there is zero chance I'd sign it.

    The last thing I'm going to do is sign an NDA and not be able to trash their obnoxious hoax in public - of course I'm thinking specifically of many startup pipedreams that do nothing but sucker would be investors out of money and never produce a viable product.

    Google - completely different story, if I ever had a need to do business with Google (doubtful) I wouldn't have an issue signing the NDA.

    I don't blame the Apple rep for not signing...I'd say the same thing, if you have a secret, keep it a secret.

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