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Analysts split on value of iPhone 4 measures

updated 01:20 pm EDT, Mon July 19, 2010

People 'simply don't care,' says one analyst


Analyst opinions are differing in the wake of a Friday announcement by Apple, in which the company agreed to hand out refunds or free cases to iPhone 4 owners affected by reception issues. Kaufman's Shaw Wu comments that Apple "did the right thing" by offering the cases, noting that there has been "strong evidence" that a case can insulate the iPhone's sensitive antenna. Wu also points out that just a small percentage of people have complained, and that sources indicate a permanent hardware or software fix may still be coming.

Jack Gold of J. Gold Associates takes a more aggressive tone, arguing that there is "no excuse for Apple to have obfuscated the antenna problems." The analyst also remarks that Apple's approach of comparing against flaws in other cellphones was irrelevant to to the rightness of its own actions. "Apple needs to do better and acknowledge when there is a problem to keep its customers happy long term," says Gold. "Otherwise, while it may not lose its most loyal fan base, those customers who may be looking at iPhone because of its reputation could easily be swayed at looking at competing devices."

Needham's Charlie Wolf takes an opposite stance, agreeing with Apple, and suggesting that antenna problems have indeed been "blown out of proportion." The majority of shoppers "simply don't care," according to Wolf, a position he defends by pointing to an ongoing supply crunch. Three million iPhone 4s have been sold so far, and there is claimed to be a "chronic backlog" of shipments in the five countries where the device is currently available. Apple is unlikely to catch up with demand until late 2010, says Wolf, as it tries to roll out the device to 88 countries by September.




by MacNN Staff

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  1. djbeta

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    low class...


    I do think it was somewhat low class of Apple to "out" its competitors by name for similar issues.

    Felt like we were in 6th grade in the principal's office.

  1. prl99

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    not low class

    I disagree. What Apple did was show the world how they design their wireless products, something I've yet to even hear about from the others. Comparing the iPhone to other phones is something everyone does so why not Apple. As for analysts, I wonder how many of them actually understood anything what was being said. I'm tired of financial people dictating what is good and bad. The market has already done that, iPhones are being purchased.

  1. macman050366

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    doesnt get it....

    Djbeta doesn't get it. The other phone companies (let's use Verizon as an example) had commercials and ads touting how well their antennas perform mocking the Apple iPhone. Does Apple not have a right to defend themselves and let the public know these ads aren't entirely true and these phones do have issues as well? I know by experience no one believes until they have examples of other "great" phones experiencing the same problems. Their main reason for showing these other phones was to show that this is an industry wide problem and not one that can be fixed overnight. No one has "fixed" it.

  1. Constable Odo

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    iPhones had never stopped being purchased

    as quickly as supply became available. Demand remained high throughout the so-called "public outcry" of Antennagate. The news media can't seem to see the reality through Gizmodo-driven, blogger FUD.

    I'm not sure what the iHaters would have thought to be a good solution. Have Steve Jobs get on his hands and knees, humbly apologize to everyone who bought an iPhone 4 and admit Apple knowingly sold a flawed product to consumers and would build totally redesigned iPhone 4s for users overnight. I don't believe any company has ever gone that far. I suppose now that every little defect that Apple makes in a product will be considered a fatal flaw. If the antenna on the iPhone is a fatal flaw then what exactly was the Kin and why isn't there more uproar about it. Apple just received a lot of bad publicity from iHating pricks that never even used iPhone 4s.

    They say that Steve Jobs is arrogant, but if my memory serves me correctly, I can't ever recall any CEO that doesn't say his company's products aren't the best for consumers and I sure don't think any CEO would ever publicly admit to knowingly selling flawed products to consumers. That's just suicide.

    Do you think a butcher would stand in front of a crowd and say "So, I knowingly sold tainted meat to customers? I'll give you a refund. Satisfied?" Would admitting the deed even placate an angry mob. I doubt it.

  1. macnnoel

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    It is unfortunate--

    There's hardly been any real news or genuinely exciting information out there, that's why sensationalism has been the default answer towards generating more traffic.

  1. Jeronimo2000

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    I am amazed...

    ... about how many people - including the press - are completely ignoring the fact that Apple's REAL response to the whole problem is "You get your money back, 100%, no questions asked", which (at least from the customer's point of view) is identical to a product recall. The only difference is that customers can choose NOT to return the product and instead get a free case of their choice.

    It's kind of annoying that, almost everywhere in the media, you read "Apple's solution to the problem: a free rubber bumper".

    And please, keep it real: don't compare a bl**dy mobile phone with an antenna issue with "tainted meat". You're just being ridiculous.

  1. Jeronimo2000

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    I am amazed...

    ... about how many people - including the press - are completely ignoring the fact that Apple's REAL response to the whole problem is "You get your money back, 100%, no questions asked", which (at least from the customer's point of view) is identical to a product recall. The only difference is that customers can choose NOT to return the product and instead get a free case of their choice.

    It's kind of annoying that, almost everywhere in the media, you read "Apple's solution to the problem: a free rubber bumper".

    And please, keep it real: don't compare a bl**dy mobile phone with an antenna issue with "tainted meat". You're just being ridiculous.

  1. testudo

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    Re: doesnt get it....

    Their main reason for showing these other phones was to show that this is an industry wide problem and not one that can be fixed overnight. No one has "fixed" it.

    So, it is amazing how every phone out there has these problems. And yet not one of them seemed to be made public. Man, why didn't all you Blackberry haters and Palm haters complain about this issue.

    As for this being blown out of proportion by iHaters, can someone explain where were the iHaters the last three years? Shouldn't they have blown this out of proportion with all the complaints from the last three generations iPhone?

    Oh, right. That's because the previous iPhones DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM! So, in essence, Apple did 'fix it', in that they had something that worked fine up until the iPhone 4. And then they broke it.

  1. testudo

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    Spreading FUD

    BTW, I am amazed about the amount of FUD being spread around by Apple and it's fans trying to hide the actual problem with the iPhone 4.

    The problem isn't the 'grip of death'. The problem is that, under normal circumstances, when someone holding the phone in their left hand, they have a real good shot at shorting out the antenna, thus making it lose signal.

    We're not talking about "Hold it real tight and block the signal" kind of holding. But just a "Hold it as if you're talking....oh c***!". Sure, it only affects left-handed phone users, so that limits it's grip to around 10%. But there's still a problem.

    All those "these others have the issues" are avoiding the facts that the other phones, including previous iPhones, did not have the issue where it is as easily created as it is on the iPhone 4.

    But, hey, why let that get in the way of spreading FUD about all the other makers out there. I'm sure if you try, you can figure out how this is all Google's doing.

  1. wrenchy

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    Then why


    does it take the release of the iPhone 4 to "expose" all the inherent faults with mobile handsets?? If every single handset has a problem with signal loss in this manner we would have heard of this years ago.

    It's the DESIGN FLAW of the iPhone 4 that emphasizes these inherent faults. Geee, no "issues" with the original iPhone, or the iP3 or the iP3GS.

    In fact, why is it when Steve did his famous wi-fi demo with the shiny new iPhone 4 that there was no problem with the 3GS and the 4 could not get a signal?? "Oh, it's because there are 270 wi-fi base stations in this room". Really? Your 3GS seems to work fine. Is it because the iPhone 4 has a design and engineering flaw?? Perhaps.

    Stop dragging others into this Steve. It's making you look worse than the iPhone 4.

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