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Jobs: 'I respect and admire Adobe'

updated 01:05 pm EDT, Thu May 27, 2010

Quote contrasts with attacks on Flash


There is no animosity towards Adobe, claims Apple CEO Steve Jobs. The statement comes in response to an e-mail, which asked if the executive hates Adobe and its products, or simply their approach to Flash. "I respect and admire Adobe," says Jobs. "We just chose to not have Flash on our devices." The tone is unexpectedly conciliatory in light of recent conflicts over the App Store, which not only forbids Flash content, but also any apps built using Flash cross-compilers.

Jobs in fact published an open letter in April, attacking Flash as "closed," unstable, a drain on battery life and not well-suited to touchscreens, and cross-compilers as resulting in subpar output. The companies have been engaged in a war of words ever since, although as in Jobs' recent statement, Adobe has sometimes tried to put a positive spin on the corporations' relationship. Apple supports HTML5 as a Flash alternative, despite its newness as a standard and its own technical limitations.

Apple is to a certain extent dependent on Adobe. Although Flash is not usable on the iPhone, iPad or iPod touch, it is common on the web, and accessible through the desktop versions of Safari. Adobe's Creative Suite programs -- such as Photoshop and InDesign -- are also industry standards, and would hurt the Mac's reputation as an artist-friendly platform were they to become Windows-only.




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  1. testudo

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    05/27, 01:32pm | report spam | (1 reply) Reply |

    But...

    " I would respect and admire them more if they would just accede to what I tell them to do."

  1. kdogg73

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    05/27, 01:46pm | report spam | (2 replies) Reply |

    -_-

    InDesign is my bread and butter. I'm not going to think about what it would mean if Adobe pulled their CS from the Mac OS. I'm just not.

  1. rvhernandez

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    05/27, 01:52pm | report spam | Reply |

    Why I Wish Apple Would Buy Adobe

    Adobe's app development has become VERY SLOPPY! CS5 is one big UI disaster after another. Today I began using Photoshop CS5 for a project and the "busy saving icon" is the Mac's spinning bars that are used at the startup screen or used in stationary positions with a background. Adobe used this rather than the beach ball or wristwatch? Are you kidding me?

    Adobe Cross Platform UI = Garbage for Mac users

    Here is a website with a running list of problems: http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/

  1. Spacemoose

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    05/27, 01:54pm | report spam | Reply |

    Adobe Needs Apple More Than the Reverse

    Half, *HALF* of Adobe's revenue comes from Mac sales.

    Even if Adobe's leadership were stupid enough to want to cut their revenue in half, there's no way their shareholders would accept it.

    The idea that Adobe would (even *could*) drop support for Mac is incredibly foolish.

    It would be like a child trying to get its way by holding its breath. It just couldn't happen.

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  1. testudo

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    05/27, 01:58pm | report spam | Reply |

    Re: Why I Wish Apple Would Buy Adobe

    Adobe's app development has become VERY SLOPPY! CS5 is one big UI disaster after another.


    So Apple buys them and then what? They'll spend two years putting on a pretty face and, in the process, taking out features and change functionality so everyone has to relearn the software. And then you'll wait 3 years to get a version in Cocoa so it can be 64-bit. And then you'll wait and wait for another version, the entire time wondering what it might have in the way of features, and when it might be released, none of which you'll know because Apple is so secretive they don't want to ruin the surprise.

    And all the time wondering if the reason Apple hasn't released and update is because they've decided to kill the software and not tell anyone.

  1. Bobfozz

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    Adobe and Apple

    Each company has a right to do business the way they want to and in many cases what is beneficial for each other. Neither should s**** with the purchasers of their products. I too would miss InDesign and not go to the PC side and their font issues problems... it is possible that Adobe is worried that Apple is creating a Page Layout app. somewhere in the background. Adobe has too much pride regarding Flash and its purchase. Adobe canned "Freehand," a much better program than Illustrator and they went the "pride" route on that too. Adobe's biggest contributions were Postscript and fonts (and indirectly, Acrobat) as well as their flagship Photoshop, which is one of the most difficult programs to learn in the world for a newbie.

    it's time to stop and rethink the future Adobe. Apple has its own issues with Google and the traitor Eric Schmidt. "He" accuses Apple of creating monopolies, isn't Google AdWords one also?

  1. DanielSw

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    05/27, 03:17pm | report spam | Reply |

    All this Apple/Adobe controversy is fabricated and

    This animosity projecting back and forth is the product of weak-minded individuals--writers and various article posters--who are convinced that everybody "out there" is like them--frustrated and hostile towards others.

    The historical facts remain that Adobe and Apple MADE each other with complementary products. Each company worked with the other and their customers to create the famous "desktop publishing" era which revolutionized the printing industry.

    Adobe couldn't have known back when it acquired Macromedia and Flash about the mobile revolution to come. It's now up against the brick wall of Flash's fallibility which may indeed not be resolvable within a mobile context. Even if they figure out how to make it not consume so much power, it may be too late.

    Steve is to be credited for laying it on the line and just saying, "No!" Someone had to say it. No one else has had the clear vision nor the cojones to do it.

    Adobe will either fix Flash or "get over it" and move on.

    All this animosity is from you people with twisted minds--not from Adobe or Apple.

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  1. wrenchy

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    05/27, 06:05pm | report spam | Reply |

    Ohhhhh Stevie-Boy....


    Stop telling iLies. Your nose is growing....

  1. dimmer

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    05/28, 01:04am | report spam | Reply |

    Nope

    "The historical facts remain that Adobe and Apple MADE each other with complementary products. Each company worked with the other and their customers to create the famous "desktop publishing" era."

    The real facts are that Aldus PageMaker and PostScript and the LaserWriter kept Apple alive. And of the three, PostScript could be the first to be abandoned.

    Right now, Apple needs Adobe as much as they need Quark (as in: not at all. If every "designer" in the world fled to Windows that'd impact maybe 1% of 1% of 1% of Apple's business.

  1. whackjob

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    Adobe's icons in tools

    If you noticed the tool bar in Adobe's apps on the Mac side now all look like they do and did on Windows for years. f*** that!.

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