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Microsoft, Nokia rail against iPad, Apple

updated 02:15 pm EST, Fri January 29, 2010

MS claims iPhone, iPad devs make no money

The iPad is limited because it doesn't use an 'open' developer environment, Microsoft platform project manager Brandon Watson has said in an interview. He believes that iPhone, iPod and now iPad developers aren't making money because they can only write to a single platform and can't necessarily build what they want with the available toolkit. To him, .NET is superior to the iPhone's Objective C since it's more often used and can be used to write across both computers and Windows Mobile.

"It is a humorous world in how Microsoft is much more open than Apple," Watson told Technologizer.

The remarks are at least partly inaccurate. Objective C is also used for Mac OS X development and in many cases shares similar standards. While .NET is useful on both desktop Windows and Windows Mobile, the latter has to use a special .NET Compact framework to accommodate the handheld platform's limitations. Also, the Zune HD is so far a closed platform and doesn't allow third parties to independently write and submit apps.

In practice, Windows Mobile's less strict management has yet to directly translate to improved sales as the platform currently has significantly fewer apps and an accordingly lower number of high profile, strong-selling apps. Developers such as Demiforce, Smule and Tapulous have also become successful and allowed for full-time iPhone development.

Nokia has also objected and wrote today that it believes Apple is inaccurate when it claims to be the largest mobile device company in the world by revenue. The company's Mark Squires tries to exclude notebooks from the category and believes that its $11.4 billion in revenue for phones and services like Ovi makes it larger. He also notes that Nokia overwhelms Apple in sheer unit numbers as it shipped 52.4 million phones in just the last quarter, or several times Apple's iPhone and iPod numbers.

Nokia's comments appear to be largely accurate as well: it does have a numerical advantage in smartphones at 20.8 million, although here it's excluding categories where Apple has a clear advantage, such as in notebooks or the iTunes Store. So far, Nokia has only the Booklet 3G as a notebook and rolls virtually all its services into Ovi, including apps and media.

by MacNN Staff



  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969



    One would think executives with a corporation would extoll the virtues of the competitor, and, not only that, but take their own products out to the woodshed for being so much less than what the others are doing...

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  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Why is it no one is mentioning that the iPad comes in two versions (with and without 3G), but Apple making an iPhone in two versions (GSM or CDMA) is too confusing and cost ineffective?

  1. Sukoshi

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Microsoft, the open-source, open computing company.

  1. JeffHarris

    Joined: Dec 1969



    What can you do but laugh at stupid and fear-tainted comments like that?

    Windows Mobile is a dying joke.

    52 million phones? I'd wager that most were give-aways with cell phone service contracts.

    Who really cares what these guys say? Apple simply does what it does, while Microsoft and Nokia look bad in comparison. How long have they both been working on their products and Apple simply blows them both out of the water... with their technology, underlying software architecture, industrial design and basic cool-factor.

  1. Tulse

    Joined: Dec 1969


    When you've got nothin'...'s really better to say nothin', that to say something so transparently stupid like Microsoft did.

  1. prl99

    Joined: Dec 1969


    re: BTW

    testudo, iPad come in one version and has the option to add components (3G). If they wanted to, they could probably add a second option, a slow 3G connection for Verizon, but I'm not sure how the change might affect other components. The iPhone comes in two versions, the 3GS and the 3G, but the 3G is really just an old version that's been replaced by the 3GS.

  1. ff11

    Joined: Dec 1969


    MS says:

    "Use OUR closed system, not yours"

  1. ff11

    Joined: Dec 1969


    re: BTW

    If you find it comforting, you can also get an iPhone with and without 3G

  1. gudin

    Joined: Dec 1969






    OK, so 1. Moron doesn't realize that Cocoa is the native environment for OS X and 2. iPhone is a version of OS X . . . just like Win Mobile is a version of Windows. Then again iPhone OS doesn't suck like Win Mobile. Then again (again) Windows sucks similarly, so I guess that is logical.

    Oh, and 3. Cocoa rocks as an API, while .Net is meh. The latest .Net is better than older versions, mostly because it copied elements from WebObjects, which is itself . . . wait for it . . . . based on COCOA! (well, technically, based on NextStep which Cocoa is also based on).

    But whatever. All these idiots made similarly dumb comments about the iPhone when it first came out.

  1. LEStudios

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Nokia and Microsoft had their chance!

    They had their chance and now its Apple's time. These companies made expensive c*** with extra stuff really didn't need and could have cut it to save some money but they didn't. Also to add it didn't really work. Apple gave us something we like, we can use but it mainly it can work! People picking up the iPad know already how to use it and what it can do especially if they already got a iPhone and or iPod Touch. That's was a extremely smart or Apple Genius move because that means a zero learning curve. I'm getting the 64GB iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G! I can use this in more ways then Microsoft's Tablet PC and Nokia's c***! These companies that voicing opinions now are the ones feeling threaten because Apple got one upon them plus by Apple's own A4 Chipset in house is a problem for them this might be the reason for low cost something you cannot get out of Intel or AMD. SO these companies that enjoy price gouging consumers reign is over on tablet format. They gotta get lower than $499 and that's something they not use to, so hats off to Apple's iPad!

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